FOX prepared to add virtual fans and crowd noise to NFL broadcasts - page 2.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 02, 2020, 05:04:44 PM

Quote from: harizen on June 30, 2020, 04:26:05 PM

People are not that dumb. Obviously, they know it's virtual. Do you really think it will lead to "fake feelings" as you mentioned lol?

It's just that they want to add some spice in the new normal scene.

I don't see anything wrong with that. Let them just do what they want to add entertainment to household viewers.

I totally agree with you. Over the last week I watched several football matches and I can notice that without the noise of the stadium, the game looks very pale (even when top clubs play). Even playing on the console looks more exciting and atmospheric than matches with empty stands, so I support these measures.

Whatever strategy they can add to make the game more alive and exciting is always welcome. The atmosphere is really dull without the audience but it is the new normal among sports events. Better be safe than sorry. At least we can watch some sports live and not a replay one.

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Quote from: harizen on June 30, 2020, 04:26:05 PM

People are not that dumb. Obviously, they know it's virtual. Do you really think it will lead to "fake feelings" as you mentioned lol?

It's just that they want to add some spice in the new normal scene.

I don't see anything wrong with that. Let them just do what they want to add entertainment to household viewers.

I totally agree with you. Over the last week I watched several football matches and I can notice that without the noise of the stadium, the game looks very pale (even when top clubs play). Even playing on the console looks more exciting and atmospheric than matches with empty stands, so I support these measures.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on July 01, 2020, 07:36:24 AM

In my opinion as long as for something positive there is no harm in trying the idea of adding virtual fans and crowd noises.
I also have never felt watch sports games with fake noises. At least it will be a little entertaining in my opinion and make
broadcasts more interesting.This virtual audience is specifically for entertaining television viewers, so the stadium remains
empty and there are no crowd noises.

It is no harm and it's for the good of the event and also for the fans and supporters. They have found a solution to continue the broadcast, the matches and as well as the viewing of the audiences.
We can't ask for more but to adopt this temporarily and when things back to the way it used to be, then fans can rush to buy their own tickets when there's no more a virus threat.

We dont really have any options but to deal up with this new normal even though you dont like to have these virtual fans then
you would need to deal with it since the management do integrate such thing to the game.

Yeah this is for the good of the event where people can still feel of the sound of the crowd even though this is on virtual side
but its better rather than having nothing at all.

We should still appreciate such move.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on July 01, 2020, 07:36:24 AM

In my opinion as long as for something positive there is no harm in trying the idea of adding virtual fans and crowd noises.
I also have never felt watch sports games with fake noises. At least it will be a little entertaining in my opinion and make
broadcasts more interesting.This virtual audience is specifically for entertaining television viewers, so the stadium remains
empty and there are no crowd noises.

It is no harm and it's for the good of the event and also for the fans and supporters. They have found a solution to continue the broadcast, the matches and as well as the viewing of the audiences.
We can't ask for more but to adopt this temporarily and when things back to the way it used to be, then fans can rush to buy their own tickets when there's no more a virus threat.

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Quote from: chaser15 on June 30, 2020, 09:47:39 PM

Quote from: michellee on June 30, 2020, 09:04:56 PM

The audience's presence can bring their motivation back to the stadium, so they will rise and try to survive and even try to win.

Professional players are already playing against the pressure to win for "many many many years"!

How come they will struggle to be motivated just because of no audience? They already know that as part of the new normal so adjustment is already made which is easy and not that difficult to overcome.

If these players can't play well because of no audience then the team's management is just totally wasting money on their salary.

Yes, the professional players have those experiences, but if they feel that the no audience in these situations, maybe they will not feel right. Maybe some of the professional players will feel there is an empty side in the stadium which they usually heard, and that can give an effect on some players. They already know, but still, it feels different and they need to familiarize themselves for a while or some rounds. Well, let us see what will happen in the stadium without any audience.

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In my opinion as long as for something positive there is no harm in trying the idea of adding virtual fans and crowd noises.
I also have never felt watch sports games with fake noises. At least it will be a little entertaining in my opinion and make
broadcasts more interesting.This virtual audience is specifically for entertaining television viewers, so the stadium remains
empty and there are no crowd noises.

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Quote from: chaser15 on June 30, 2020, 06:59:31 PM

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It's temporary so the players will still get the feel and motivated to win their games maybe a year from now, all of these will just become a memory, we all want to get to normal and see and feel what we all missed but for now, we have to find a way to enjoy what we want to enjoy while keeping ourselves and our fans safe, and this is a very innovative idea.

I think it's not for a player's motivation as they are always motivated and giving their best to the game.

This cannot be a part of motivating for the players because it has nothing to do with them,they can't even notice the presence of fake audience because this is only in Video and sound effect.

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FOX just thinks of a way to still carry the presence of being in the usual event even in reality there is no live audience.

They say "broadcast" so it meant to the television viewers.

Actually their main concern is the Viewers online because those are also the prospected bettors online.

They will also consider using fake images to look realistic even in TV.

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Quote from: chaser15 on June 30, 2020, 09:47:39 PM

Quote from: michellee on June 30, 2020, 09:04:56 PM

The audience's presence can bring their motivation back to the stadium, so they will rise and try to survive and even try to win.

Professional players are already playing against the pressure to win for "many many many years"!

How come they will struggle to be motivated just because of no audience? They already know that as part of the new normal so adjustment is already made which is easy and not that difficult to overcome.

If these players can't play well because of no audience then the team's management is just totally wasting money on their salary.

Chaser15 you have a point here, if they can't be motivated to win for higher salaries, for winning championship than
the team management is wasting money.
Call me old, but I don't like virtual fans idea. Younger generations are attracted by virtual things, and they will like this, for us
who are +40 virtual is not so interesting.

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Quote from: michellee on June 30, 2020, 09:04:56 PM

The audience's presence can bring their motivation back to the stadium, so they will rise and try to survive and even try to win.

Professional players are already playing against the pressure to win for "many many many years"!

How come they will struggle to be motivated just because of no audience? They already know that as part of the new normal so adjustment is already made which is easy and not that difficult to overcome.

If these players can't play well because of no audience then the team's management is just totally wasting money on their salary.

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Quote from: chaser15 on June 30, 2020, 06:59:31 PM

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It's temporary so the players will still get the feel and motivated to win their games maybe a year from now, all of these will just become a memory, we all want to get to normal and see and feel what we all missed but for now, we have to find a way to enjoy what we want to enjoy while keeping ourselves and our fans safe, and this is a very innovative idea.

I think it's not for a player's motivation as they are always motivated and giving their best to the game.

FOX just thinks of a way to still carry the presence of being in the usual event even in reality there is no live audience.

They say "broadcast" so it meant to the television viewers.

When they win, they will be always motivated to win more. But I don't think that will happen with the teams who lose because their spirit will go down because of the high tension and they will feel it is not easy to get motivated. The audience's presence can bring their motivation back to the stadium, so they will rise and try to survive and even try to win. But it is a beginning from FOX, and I am sure that if everything is under control, FOX will think the other way to bring the audience to the stadium.

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It's temporary so the players will still get the feel and motivated to win their games maybe a year from now, all of these will just become a memory, we all want to get to normal and see and feel what we all missed but for now, we have to find a way to enjoy what we want to enjoy while keeping ourselves and our fans safe, and this is a very innovative idea.

I think it's not for a player's motivation as they are always motivated and giving their best to the game.

FOX just thinks of a way to still carry the presence of being in the usual event even in reality there is no live audience.

They say "broadcast" so it meant to the television viewers.

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Quote from: iv4n on June 29, 2020, 04:36:43 AM

Virtual audience, virtual judges, and with virtual players we would cover everything! This is crazy in my opinion, the need for fake audiences, and purpose is what? Fake public for fake feelings, where are we going with this? I would say better to play on empty stadiums and when this virus passes people will come to stadiums again, there's no need for fake things that will give you fake feelings.

People are not that dumb. Obviously, they know it's virtual. Do you really think it will lead to "fake feelings" as you mentioned lol?

It's just that they want to add some spice in the new normal scene.

I don't see anything wrong with that. Let them just do what they want to add entertainment to household viewers.

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This must be such a surreal experience for Americans.

In Europe it's often that teams can get penalized by their league because of their fans or player misconduct, and they can end up playing with no fans. It's a disincentive to acting out because it's also hurting teams financially. But also a season's ticket for games in Europe costs as much as a couple or so of seats in a game in the US so it's hard to compare the two. It's a completely different type of experience.

In Europe oftentimes fans are working-class while in the US it's more of a luxury to visit a stadium. The spirit is also different in the crowds. I don't think it'll be much of an impact to play without fans for a game of American football. It's better to have the game run than not anyway. But to have mock fans is just adding insult to injury.

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Quote from: nutildah on June 29, 2020, 05:19:55 AM

How about this? They let people back into the stadiums by opening day, Thursday, Sept. 10th? That way they can have real crowd noises and don't have to do that artificial B.S. It's still well over 2 months away! Seriously don't understand how much longer this virus has to disrupt everything. Maybe just make the attendees sign waivers that they won't sue if they contract the virus at the stadium.

the MLB is set to start its shortened season in a few weeks and isn't ruling out allowing fans in stadiums. it sounds like it will depend on local authorities. in turn, i guess that depends on where and whether coronavirus cases keep surging. we might see limited capacity in some stadiums and no fans in others. https://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/story/2020-06-27/major-league-baseball-is-not-totally-ruling-out-fans-for-2020

Quote from: verita1 on June 29, 2020, 11:38:28 PM

This Nypost article mentioned what NBA broadcasts will be like to make the games more fun and entertaining for players and viewers. Organizers are thinking of getting fans to participate through an app. They will send out the noise and excitement they feel at home while watching their favorite game. There is also talk of doing a competition among fans. Taking advantage of their live emotions.
Maybe this strategy is implemented for other sporting events like the NFL.

i imagine it will be. it's something but certainly no replacement for live sports venues.

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Quote from: iv4n on June 29, 2020, 04:36:43 AM

Virtual audience, virtual judges, and with virtual players we would cover everything! This is crazy in my opinion, the need for fake audiences, and purpose is what? Fake public for fake feelings, where are we going with this? I would say better to play on empty stadiums and when this virus passes people will come to stadiums again, there's no need for fake things that will give you fake feelings. But it's me, if I wish virtual public and players I will play PES on Sony.

Exactly. I think the scenario is not ruled out in which during the next pandemic we will watch games with virtual players controlled by artificial intelligence.
Each player will own his own AI, learn and adapt. Bets will be made on this, and at some point, it is possible that this could become a trend.
It sounds terrible, but it is precisely such thoughts that arise when I hear news about a fake audience.

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Quote from: Ucy on June 30, 2020, 04:29:10 AM

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Quote from: swogerino on June 29, 2020, 01:36:13 AM

I think that holograms are tested from quite some time now.I remembering when they used in the USA many years ago a 2Pac hologram in his honor and people were shocked to see it.I think it is time to put this thing in work in a stadium and I think it can offer some sort of simulation of a real crowd.They just need to add some sounds from Tv channels who are broadcasting the game and that should do it.

Yes I remember seeing that and it was in 2012... so yes there are probably more advanced technologies out now that would make it look even better...

It should be hologram of real live sounds and spectactors then... so sports don't slowly degenerate from the real to the fake, and people in the distant future won't even remember what actual sport was like in the past.
Hopefully people don't gradually lose meaning of real things with the way things are moving to the virtual computer world

The other day I watched footbal match and at first I thought how come that there are people at the stadium. Then I saw that the audience is made of paper and there is recorded sound of the crowd cheering and making noise that was present all the time. I have to.admit that looked weird and funny to me and I definetely wouldn't like that sport turns into this, what a shame that would be...

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Quote from: xxjumperxx on June 29, 2020, 01:50:38 AM

Quote from: swogerino on June 29, 2020, 01:36:13 AM

I think that holograms are tested from quite some time now.I remembering when they used in the USA many years ago a 2Pac hologram in his honor and people were shocked to see it.I think it is time to put this thing in work in a stadium and I think it can offer some sort of simulation of a real crowd.They just need to add some sounds from Tv channels who are broadcasting the game and that should do it.

Yes I remember seeing that and it was in 2012... so yes there are probably more advanced technologies out now that would make it look even better...

It should be hologram of real live sounds and spectactors then... so sports don't slowly degenerate from the real to the fake, and people in the distant future won't even remember what actual sport was like in the past.
Hopefully people don't gradually lose meaning of real things with the way things are moving to the virtual computer world

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Quote from: aioc on June 29, 2020, 11:10:48 PM

Quote from: swogerino on June 29, 2020, 01:36:13 AM

I think that holograms are tested from quite some time now.I remembering when they used in the USA many years ago a 2Pac hologram in his honor and people were shocked to see it.I think it is time to put this thing in work in a stadium and I think it can offer some sort of simulation of a real crowd.They just need to add some sounds from Tv channels who are broadcasting the game and that should do it.

That's a good idea, as long as the players can feel the presence of crowds even if they are virtual, that will motivate them to play harder, there is a difference if there are crowds and there are none, it will just like a practice and exhibition if no crowds are around, even those watching at home will see the intensity if there are crowds are around even if they are virtual only.

Personally I've seen those holograms do their work and it's not for everyone. Fake noise maybe it's not so bad because it's about bringing back familiarity that people already have unless they have empty stadiums or quiet ones like ManCity;)

But for me to hear about motivation, if players need holograms to play better, they're probably not the players you want on your team!

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This Nypost article mentioned what NBA broadcasts will be like to make the games more fun and entertaining for players and viewers. Organizers are thinking of getting fans to participate through an app. They will send out the noise and excitement they feel at home while watching their favorite game. There is also talk of doing a competition among fans. Taking advantage of their live emotions.
Maybe this strategy is implemented for other sporting events like the NFL.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/20/mavericks-mark-cuban-sounds-off-on-nba-restart-black-lives-matter/

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Quote from: swogerino on June 29, 2020, 01:36:13 AM

I think that holograms are tested from quite some time now.I remembering when they used in the USA many years ago a 2Pac hologram in his honor and people were shocked to see it.I think it is time to put this thing in work in a stadium and I think it can offer some sort of simulation of a real crowd.They just need to add some sounds from Tv channels who are broadcasting the game and that should do it.

That's a good idea, as long as the players can feel the presence of crowds even if they are virtual, that will motivate them to play harder, there is a difference if there are crowds and there are none, it will just like a practice and exhibition if no crowds are around, even those watching at home will see the intensity if there are crowds are around even if they are virtual only.

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