FOX prepared to add virtual fans and crowd noise to NFL broadcasts - page 4.

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Quote from: akram143 on June 27, 2020, 08:38:42 AM

It will give some confidence to the players but not the same level as it was when the stadium is filled with the audience.And it needs lot of work and money to bring the same feel as people present in the stadium and all these things have to be done for no profits,then I doubt this kind of module will be implemented on every sport to tackle covid 19.

It won't as there's no assurance that people who will watch each games from different games / sports will simply noticed that there are no real audiences.

Like what I've said, temporarily might but long term it won't, fans still love to hear and see real actions, also with the players they all wanted real cheering from the fans who are supporting them while playing the game.

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Baseball, soccer, NFL, or NBA.

Is it really happening already? Virtual crowd, sounds, and cheers?
I just can't imagine it yet. Like the sounds while playing NBA2k and Madden?

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It will give some confidence to the players but not the same level as it was when the stadium is filled with the audience.And it needs lot of work and money to bring the same feel as people present in the stadium and all these things have to be done for no profits,then I doubt this kind of module will be implemented on every sport to tackle covid 19.

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Quote from: MCobian on June 27, 2020, 05:43:50 AM

It's true that a soccer match without live audiences and crowded noises feels weird. If there is a live audience it is usually the atmosphere
of the match getting more tense, that's what makes the match even more interesting. Since the match was reopen again without a live
audience, many soccer fans have become a little disappointed. Luckily now FOX has an idea by making virtual fans to NFL broadcasts,
if successful it might also be applied on football broadcast. I can't wait for the results, although it sure feels weird. At least not bad than
no crowded noises at all.

You would really able to tell the difference yet we arent really get used to it. Crowd is one of the best things on where it do make games even more interesting and thrilling.

Its good to see that they are trying out their best to find up solutions on at least considering to have those virtual fans and crowd noise. This isnt only helping out the players itself

but also it would also give out temporary feels just like when we are still on a normal state of living.Im also eyeing on how this thing works.

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Quote from: MCobian on June 27, 2020, 05:43:50 AM

It's true that a soccer match without live audiences and crowded noises feels weird.

What about NBA playing without audience in Live?and also American Football playing powerfully without anyone cheering?

Yeah soccer game will never be the same without real fans on the game but almost all Games outdoor have the same situation right?

all they need to do is bare with the situation or never play still until the virus completely cured.

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If there is a live audience it is usually the atmosphere
of the match getting more tense, that's what makes the match even more interesting.

It is the players discretion also mate if how they will managed to enjoy each game because the audience are watching Online so they must do their best to make them feel at home still even if that is not in actual game.

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It's true that a soccer match without live audiences and crowded noises feels weird. If there is a live audience it is usually the atmosphere
of the match getting more tense, that's what makes the match even more interesting. Since the match was reopen again without a live
audience, many soccer fans have become a little disappointed. Luckily now FOX has an idea by making virtual fans to NFL broadcasts,
if successful it might also be applied on football broadcast. I can't wait for the results, although it sure feels weird. At least not bad than
no crowded noises at all.

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Players are not participating in any game out of concern for their health Everything has been put on hold No one wants to be infected with the virus The government has taken many good steps for them. However, many countries have been able to prevent the virus, the decision to open everything soon There is no doubt in anyone's mind about COVID-19 Now everyone is taking precautions and taking various steps to prevent it.

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Quote from: blockman on June 26, 2020, 11:36:32 AM

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It's already there so you shouldn't think of it as if it's a new case that we have to face. Let us strengthen ourselves against the fight with covid19. As long as it hasn't been terminated, we need to think courageous and positive. No issues with the virtual audiences and for sure that the players are also longing to play again because it's their passion and livelihood at the same time.

I hope people can unite against the virus, and they can use preventive ways from the virus together, so there are not many new cases of COVID-19.
We need to be more careful in the new normal because we never know what will happen in this next phase, and if we don't take care of our health, we can be a new suspect of COVID-19.
We don't want to get infect, and we need to follow every step suggested by the government, so we don't have to worry about the virus.
I am sure the player will do the same thing to carrying their health, and they don't want to be next infected people.

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Quote from: Ucy on June 26, 2020, 03:12:25 AM

Quote from: acroman08 on June 25, 2020, 08:14:47 AM

the problem I see here is not the promoter or organizers preparing enough guidelines or protocols but the audience who will watch the game. we know that there are a lot of entitled people who thinks that rules doesn't apply to them and doesn't care if they endangered someone else's lives. if it was up to me I'd cancel the game until a vaccine is discovered.

You think it's a good idea to have the stadiums empty until a cure or vaccine is discovered?

Well, I think the focus should be how to get people to visit such places without violating a well researched and effective safety guideline. The policy makers should be working within the guidelines and not taking unnecessary extreme measures. If a good guideline is strictly followed, people will still be able to gather safely.

By the way, the good thing about many stadiums is that they are not totally enclosed. That will allow for fresh air and help limit the spread of the disease.

For some stadium, yes. but for majority of these places on where big events being held then that would surely talk about enclosed one which is really prone to high chances of infecting lots even a single person who do have the virus will able to get in specially to those people who dont show any symptoms which do really make this situation even more worst. Having virtual fans or crowd isnt really
a bad idea at all rather than having no any background noise or some sort because we know that one of factors that do stimulate players/teams performance do really comes to the crowd itself.
They might be aware on the new normal now and have to deal with it but they would really able to feel that odd thing.

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Quote from: traderethereum on June 26, 2020, 02:17:27 AM

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That's the best that they can think for now until the covid19 is gone forever. They could still earn from the broadcast and gain more advertisers and sponsors through it. Settling the tickets and forgetting it as an additional revenue per event.
They could earn more and adjust the rates for their advertisers without compromising the safety of their players. I don't see any problem making an appearance of their fans in the form of virtual.

I am afraid that Covid-19 will be with us for a while until the scientist can discover the vaccine.
The important thing here is how the player can give the best performance during the pandemic, and how the sports promoters can get the revenue again after they stop the event.
It is no problem to make an appearance from the virtual audience, but that will need time to set it up while the event will start soon, so hopefully, the setting will be finished at the right time.

It's already there so you shouldn't think of it as if it's a new case that we have to face. Let us strengthen ourselves against the fight with covid19. As long as it hasn't been terminated, we need to think courageous and positive. No issues with the virtual audiences and for sure that the players are also longing to play again because it's their passion and livelihood at the same time.

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Quote from: acroman08 on June 25, 2020, 08:14:47 AM

the problem I see here is not the promoter or organizers preparing enough guidelines or protocols but the audience who will watch the game. we know that there are a lot of entitled people who thinks that rules doesn't apply to them and doesn't care if they endangered someone else's lives. if it was up to me I'd cancel the game until a vaccine is discovered.

You think it's a good idea to have the stadiums empty until a cure or vaccine is discovered?

Well, I think the focus should be how to get people to visit such places without violating a well researched and effective safety guideline. The policy makers should be working within the guidelines and not taking unnecessary extreme measures. If a good guideline is strictly followed, people will still be able to gather safely.

By the way, the good thing about many stadiums is that they are not totally enclosed. That will allow for fresh air and help limit the spread of the disease.

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Quote from: shoreno on June 19, 2020, 06:45:10 AM

this doesnt increase the entertainment degree because all we can hear is fake sounds and not the sound from a real person but people are already contented about it than nothing at all , atleast games are being resumed .

its possible that they can also replace the player from real to virtual , like what we saw on online gambling but nothing beats the real life gambling/sports.

Fake laughs have been used at standup comedy shows for a long time. In fact, Britain Got Talent or any other "Got Talent" shows use them too. The reason is that the audience doesn't actually laugh or cheer as much as they appear to be on TV. See Disney Channel or the Saturday Night quarantine episodes where there has been no audience really in the show.

They're probably going to use similar sounds FIFA uses in their games though, because they're very realistic and quite hard to distinguish from the real thing. It's kinda weird to have a completely fake one, but rather than having complete silence it's much better. It might help a lot if the camera will be kept as off-spectators as possible until they get to "pack" the stadiums with audience though.

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 25, 2020, 07:01:55 AM

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As a temporary replacement it might work for a while, but in the long process promoters and organizations who are handling each events should think for much better ideas, they can't risk the lives of people but with better and responsible protocols they can allow half of the fans to attend implementing all the safety measures that the government are requiring them.
It's still best if you are hearing real people cheering the teams and not just devices that produce fake actions,.

Even the cheering for people is not too many, but it can satisfying the players and the teams because they see a real sound from the people.
Maybe the replacement is just for testing before they invite the real people to come to the stadium, and they will want to see how good the result.
If they think that all of the protocol procedures is work fine, they will try to invite a limited number of people, and they use social distancing protocols in every chair.

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That's the best that they can think for now until the covid19 is gone forever. They could still earn from the broadcast and gain more advertisers and sponsors through it. Settling the tickets and forgetting it as an additional revenue per event.
They could earn more and adjust the rates for their advertisers without compromising the safety of their players. I don't see any problem making an appearance of their fans in the form of virtual.

I am afraid that Covid-19 will be with us for a while until the scientist can discover the vaccine.
The important thing here is how the player can give the best performance during the pandemic, and how the sports promoters can get the revenue again after they stop the event.
It is no problem to make an appearance from the virtual audience, but that will need time to set it up while the event will start soon, so hopefully, the setting will be finished at the right time.

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In my opinion, that can make the players feel confused and can not focus on the games.
Instead of using virtual fans in the stands, the sports events promoter needs to think about how the game can run without any problem, and they should think about taking care of the player, the staff, and themselves.
So that will be not for this time, but maybe in the future, if the situations are not like this, the sports event can invite the audience with a limited number.
I think that will better in these situations so that the player can stay focus on the game without worry with the audience.

As a temporary replacement it might work for a while, but in the long process promoters and organizations who are handling each events should think for much better ideas, they can't risk the lives of people but with better and responsible protocols they can allow half of the fans to attend implementing all the safety measures that the government are requiring them.
It's still best if you are hearing real people cheering the teams and not just devices that produce fake actions,.

Seems that new reality has come and I don't like it.

Even if how much we disagreed on this or we hated yet this is the only option every game operator must have to at least the online viewer will enjoy because it is more boring if there are no cheering(even if its fake.)

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This might be temporary solution, yes, but sport events and matches without fans and audience make no sense.

exactly this is temporary.and when the pandemic ends?this will be gone.

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I don't think that sport players are happy with virtual fans.

Nothing is more happier seeing your friends,family members int he crowd shouting for you while in a match .

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I know that some safety measures must be implemented because of pandemic but still we need to continue living somehow and if everything becomes virtual and on the screen only that isn't a good direction.

This what we can do to help the players and the game as well to continue their legacy.

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Quote from: acroman08 on June 25, 2020, 08:14:47 AM

I don't think it will work even on the first try. the crowd noise itself is not the one that boosts the player's morale it is the presence of the crowd that supports them through the game.

I know right! It's like the official tournament games are just practice games, hell, even practice games are a lot better since players could play around so that they can enjoy playing. Here, the competition could be said to be intense and serious, and really, this drains the concentration of the players more than we could ever understand. The cheers of the crowds is one of the boost factors and really, it isn't easy for a player to adjust their mindset with the current disappearance of the cheering of the viewers. Sure, Virtual Noise may add immersion to the experience of other people watching the scene, but what about the players? It's like they're turning this into a commercial aspect to sell, and not to showcase the game.

This is now the age of a new normal for every player, and this needs adjustments at first. If we hear it virtual crowd, that's not for physical but works through technology. For those players who played the sports game, they should maintain a good focus in order to create sustainable mindset to do their task successfully for the game.

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Quote from: acroman08 on June 25, 2020, 08:14:47 AM

I don't think it will work even on the first try. the crowd noise itself is not the one that boosts the player's morale it is the presence of the crowd that supports them through the game.

I know right! It's like the official tournament games are just practice games, hell, even practice games are a lot better since players could play around so that they can enjoy playing. Here, the competition could be said to be intense and serious, and really, this drains the concentration of the players more than we could ever understand. The cheers of the crowds is one of the boost factors and really, it isn't easy for a player to adjust their mindset with the current disappearance of the cheering of the viewers. Sure, Virtual Noise may add immersion to the experience of other people watching the scene, but what about the players? It's like they're turning this into a commercial aspect to sell, and not to showcase the game.

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It's not that bad idea, it actually helps to make the game more realistic and enjoyable rather than playing only with the coaches or the announcers. Besides, this is just a temporary solution that they can think of since the vaccine is not out yet. Players may not expecting this new normal but what could they do? They would either stay at home and let their hard work training gone to waste or play the game and enjoy the new normal.

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So far this is the best alternative they can use to minimize the risk of getting infected by the CoVid-19 virus. We just need to think about it as a lip-sync performance by a popular singer because of certain circumstances that he can no longer sing but still can move his lips. anyway, this is better than nothing because playing without some fans to cheer you on has some negative impact on both teams. because they have been playing with lots of people all around them cheering for them and suddenly there's no one to see. that's some new atmosphere that will likely affect their performance in the game.

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Quote from: plvbob0070 on June 25, 2020, 09:54:30 AM

It's really one of the downsides of this pandemic that we really have to deal with and adjust almost on everything. I wonder how long should we live like this?

Who knows, maybe it's the new normal now? Sad

But honestly, watching sports in empty stadiums without any crowds cheering seems a bit sad for me. In comedy movies it's normal to add laughters, why not for sports? It definitely increases the excitments.

It's same with so many people watching reactions online. They don't only want to watch the content but also some background noises of normal people.

I think it's a good idea. Atleast until the stadiums are sold out again and real fans are back.

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Quote from: traderethereum on June 25, 2020, 02:08:21 AM

In my opinion, that can make the players feel confused and can not focus on the games.
Instead of using virtual fans in the stands, the sports events promoter needs to think about how the game can run without any problem, and they should think about taking care of the player, the staff, and themselves.
So that will be not for this time, but maybe in the future, if the situations are not like this, the sports event can invite the audience with a limited number.
I think that will better in these situations so that the player can stay focus on the game without worry with the audience.

That's the best that they can think for now until the covid19 is gone forever. They could still earn from the broadcast and gain more advertisers and sponsors through it. Settling the tickets and forgetting it as an additional revenue per event.
They could earn more and adjust the rates for their advertisers without compromising the safety of their players. I don't see any problem making an appearance of their fans in the form of virtual.

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