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Quote from: Hirose UK on November 16, 2024, 12:51:05 AM

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To fight Brest I believe Monaco will get an easier win but after that they have to face Marseille and this is the concern because Marseille is also not an opponent that Monaco can beat, if they play well maybe can share points for draw against Marseille.
As for the remaining UCL match, only Aston Villa is an easy opponent for Monaco because Benfica, Arsenal and Inter Milan are quite strong team but this will be big match for Monaco.

On paper it should be like that, Monaco can easily win over Brest. However, all of that is just an advantage on paper that cannot guarantee 100% that they will be able to win easily like that. What determines it is their own game on the field. They must show their best to be able to win this match. In addition, Brest also did not come to lose, they will also definitely try their best to be able to get points from this match, at least they are targeting 1 point for them to take home in this match. Although Brest is not in a good condition because they suffered a series of previous defeats, they will also definitely try hard.

What is clear is that Monaco does not have any problems in their squad, all players are perfectly intact without any core players injured or absent so it is clear that this is not just an advantage on paper for Monaco to be able to beat Brest who is middle team at the moment with their performance which can be considered quite bad.
Moreover, the only thing that can make Brest win or share points is luck alone, they don't have enough performance be able to beat Monaco.

Even though they don’t have much of a chance against Monaco, I think we still need to think about the possibility of making a surprise. They won three out of four games in the Champions League and drew the other game. Brest, who have not yet lost in four games, certainly have the potential to make a surprise against Monaco. I think we all know how open the French league is to surprises. But as I said, this is only a surprise possibility. To be honest, I think there is a 60% chance that Monaco will win this game.

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Quote from: hahay on November 15, 2024, 01:51:23 PM

There are three promoted teams this season in Ligue 1 and in fact, only Auxerre has managed to be in the middle of the table. As for the other two teams, Angers and St Etienne have the same points tally of 10, and they are currently in the bottom zone of the table. But indeed, about Auxerre who basically won the Ligue 2 trophy last season, still managed to have a good performance in competing in Ligue 1 this season, despite their status as a promotion team. But, so far Auxerre only has a good winning record at home, while for away matches that Auxerre still often loses away from home. But yes, at least as a promotion team then of course, with the success of Auxerre in the middle of the standings it is also still a good result for them, at least it will stay in Ligue 1 and not be relegated again.

Auxerre have promote to Ligue 1 as the champion of Ligue 2 and last season they can collect 74 points total and Auxerre has 6 difference points above to Angers the team on the second place and their journey on Ligue 1 at the beginning of season is very hard because Auxerre has suffering several loses but Auxerre can able to bounce back and i can see it that their performance is getting better even in the last 4 matches in Ligue 1 Auxerre is still unbeated and they even can playing draw from Lyon and surprisingly Auxerre can beat Marseille and if Auxerre can able to managed their consistency i am sure Auxerre can survive in Ligue 1 even Auxerre has good chances to stayed in this league compared to other promotion teams such as Angers and St Etienne

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To fight Brest I believe Monaco will get an easier win but after that they have to face Marseille and this is the concern because Marseille is also not an opponent that Monaco can beat, if they play well maybe can share points for draw against Marseille.
As for the remaining UCL match, only Aston Villa is an easy opponent for Monaco because Benfica, Arsenal and Inter Milan are quite strong team but this will be big match for Monaco.

On paper it should be like that, Monaco can easily win over Brest. However, all of that is just an advantage on paper that cannot guarantee 100% that they will be able to win easily like that. What determines it is their own game on the field. They must show their best to be able to win this match. In addition, Brest also did not come to lose, they will also definitely try their best to be able to get points from this match, at least they are targeting 1 point for them to take home in this match. Although Brest is not in a good condition because they suffered a series of previous defeats, they will also definitely try hard.

What is clear is that Monaco does not have any problems in their squad, all players are perfectly intact without any core players injured or absent so it is clear that this is not just an advantage on paper for Monaco to be able to beat Brest who is middle team at the moment with their performance which can be considered quite bad.
Moreover, the only thing that can make Brest win or share points is luck alone, they don't have enough performance be able to beat Monaco.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on November 15, 2024, 06:29:19 PM

Another bad news from LYON, and also quite bad news for this top 5 Ligue 1 club. And, this club finally entered Ligue 2.

"Lyon Heavily Sanctioned Amid Severe Debt Crisis"

Actually this has been quite a while, but this time everything is very clear. While LYON is fighting to be in 5th position and higher to enter the UCL. But all this is over, yes it's over for Lyon in Ligue 1.

Source: Lyon Heavily Sanctioned Amid Severe Debt Crisis
Official: Olympique Lyonnais have been handed a provisional Ligue 2 relegation.

Sometimes I find it hard to understand why some of these smaller clubs that are found guilty in some of these charges are easily punished without any form of deal but when it comes to the bigger boys and money spenders it will take forever before you see them being persecuted, it is very bad. Lyon that have been struggling to be in their best for long are now found in this kind of situation and if this is going to happen I don't think the Ligue 1 will have much big clubs that we can say are going to battle PSG for the title, even if we have Marseille, Monaco, Lille and the others ones who are trying to step up, Lyon should be at the top 4 big clubs in Ligue 1, now that they're going to be off the picture I don't know how long it will last, hope this won't stand.

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Lyon handed provisional relegation from Ligue 1, transfer ban confirmed for John Textor-owned club amid financial woes

Olympique Lyonnais have been handed a provisional relegation from Ligue 1 due to their financial situation, which has seen the club's debts reportedly rise from €458 million to €508 million. The club are owned by John Textor and his Eagle Football Holdings group, which also has a 45% stake in Premier League side Crystal Palace. Olympique Lyonnais have been handed a provisional Ligue 1 relegation by the DNCG, who oversee the finances of clubs in France, the Ligue de Football Professionnel (LFP) has confirmed.
Lyon currently sit fifth in the French top flight after 11 games, but could face relegation to Ligue 2 regardless of their standing. Lyon and their owner John Textor, chairman of the Eagle Football group, were due to appear before the DNCG on Friday morning, according to a report by L'Equipe.
And the LFP confirmed Lyon will be subjected to "supervision of the payroll and ban on recruiting," alongside "demotion as a precautionary measure at the end of the current sports season."
Textor also owns a 45% stake in Premier League club Crystal Palace, as well as chunks in Belgian club RWD Molenbeek and Brazilian side Botafogo.

Source link: https://www.eurosport.com/football/ligue-1/2024-2025/lyon-provisional-relegation-ligue-1-transfer-ban-financial-john-textor_sto20054466/story.shtml

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Why getting worried over spilled milk. Mbappe is gone for good and it's high time PSG faces reality and look for how they can get a good replacement for Mbappe, so that they can strengthen the club with the players that they have for the continuity of winning the title always, and also focus on how they can win UCL some dsy.

PSG have a good record and believe they will be stronger after replacing this player but I don't see any truth in this, if all these players help each other, it will become stronger. But I doubt for him not to win the title because he is too strong and high performing to not win the title. But they can certainly get to the end of it. PSG will face Bayern Munich in their next match in which they will face a sure defeat. They will have to work hard to compete against Bayern Munich.

In the match, PSG and Bayern Munich really need a win to improve their position in the standings. Bayern Munich, who are in 17th place in the standings, must maintain their position to be able to advance to the play-off round, because a defeat or draw in this match could make Bayern Munich drop to the bottom of the standings and out of the play-off zone.

Likewise with PSG, who are currently in 25th place in the standings, from the four matches that have been played, PSG have only been able to achieve one win, one draw and the rest have experienced defeat. They have only been able to collect 4 points for the time being. And that puts PSG in the relegation zone. So this match against Bayern Munich is very important to continue the hope of advancing to the next round.

PSG and Bayern Munic match will be the best match of the football round, both needs the win to remain in the tournament. Looking at their past record Bayern Munic ought to win easily but looking at their recent perfomance in their respective leagues, it is not clear if Bayern Munic would be abed to eliminate them although PSG does not have champions league experience so that is going to be a major factor that can influence the match on the performance of PSG. But they can still pull a surprise against Bayern Munic.

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Another bad news from LYON, and also quite bad news for this top 5 Ligue 1 club. And, this club finally entered Ligue 2.

"Lyon Heavily Sanctioned Amid Severe Debt Crisis"

Actually this has been quite a while, but this time everything is very clear. While LYON is fighting to be in 5th position and higher to enter the UCL. But all this is over, yes it's over for Lyon in Ligue 1.

Source: Lyon Heavily Sanctioned Amid Severe Debt Crisis
Official: Olympique Lyonnais have been handed a provisional Ligue 2 relegation.

It's actually sad to see so of these top European clubs get into financial crises especially huge ones like the one Lyon is currently facing which reported might force them to the second division of French football. Lyon have been one of the traditional club in France for decades but at the moment, it seems they'll not be able to continue playing in the top flight because of their current poor financial state. If it's not too late to try find a solution, then I think Lyon must as a matter of urgency try look for an alternative means of avoiding the sanction.

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Quote from: Mame89 on November 15, 2024, 09:23:27 AM

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One of the reasons PSG is able to stay firmly at the top of the Ligue 1 standings from season to season is because no team in Ligue 1 is able to have stable and consistent performance throughout the season. So, even though sometimes at the beginning of the season there are other teams that are able to be at the top of the standings, but over time that team will also lose its consistency. Thus, PSG will always succeed in being able to return to the top of the standings. Although indeed, at least when Mbappe left at that time, at least made me curious at first, whether PSG would still remain solid at the top of the standings or maybe fail. But yes, the fact is that PSG still managed to get the Ligue 1 trophy again this season even without Mbappe.

In addition, the teams in the French League are not like the teams in the English Premier League (EPL), many clubs compete to become champions, sometimes small teams are able to beat big teams. Currently PSG is six points ahead of Monaco which means PSG will win the League One trophy again this season, although the season is still long, but Monaco will have difficulty catching up with the six-point gap. Unless Monaco is six points ahead, maybe they have the spirit in every match so as not to lose points.

Obviously, French Ligue 1 is not as competitive as the Premier League, and can't even be compared, and thus making it be a bit boring since it's highly predictable to know which club is gonna lift the trophy at the of the season and this distinctiveness makes Premier league games super un-predictable. But the Spanish league and the Italian Serie A can be said to be very close to Premier League, in terms of competitiveness.

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PSG will face Bayern Munich in their next match in which they will face a sure defeat. They will have to work hard to compete against Bayern Munich.

PSG can try but when it comes to the champions league the mentality of a club changes and when you talk about a team (Bayern Munich) that have done so much in the champions league I don't think they can come into this encounter and maybe lose. PSG don't have what it takes to get a draw more or less a win in this encounter, they (PSG) can only say they're too good in their league (the Ligue) but when it comes to the UCL against a team that has no joy written on their faces I don't think PSG can escape the hit that's coming at them.

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Quote from: ITExpert on November 15, 2024, 08:44:30 AM

PSG have a good record and believe they will be stronger after replacing this player but I don't see any truth in this, if all these players help each other, it will become stronger. But I doubt for him not to win the title because he is too strong and high performing to not win the title. But they can certainly get to the end of it. PSG will face Bayern Munich in their next match in which they will face a sure defeat. They will have to work hard to compete against Bayern Munich.

Why you had to state it that it's going to be a sure defeat for PSG is what I don't want to agree with last week before the international break, we saw how big teams lost to smaller team and here we are talking about above average teams going against each other, and anticipated draw wouldn't be a bad taught after all but assuming a sure win for one of the team could be an anticipated disappointment as it may turn out differently. Their domestic league isn't looking like a problem to them except the champions League which they still can do well before it ends.

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Quote from: irhact on November 15, 2024, 02:49:13 PM

The difference between the premier league and french league is too big, there aren't many clubs that can challenge for the title in the french league and that's why PSG are always winning even when they're not playing at their best.

You're right, the difference is very high. EPL, look, how high their competition is up to 6th position and there are many top big clubs in the league. It means that every time there is UCL, there are several clubs that are always feared. While in the French Ligue, there is only PSG that is that strong, there has not been a balanced match in this Ligue 1. Even Marseille and Monaco, they still can't hold PSG to that level. PSG still dominates Ligue 1.

Another bad news from LYON, and also quite bad news for this top 5 Ligue 1 club. And, this club finally entered Ligue 2.

"Lyon Heavily Sanctioned Amid Severe Debt Crisis"

Actually this has been quite a while, but this time everything is very clear. While LYON is fighting to be in 5th position and higher to enter the UCL. But all this is over, yes it's over for Lyon in Ligue 1.

Source: Lyon Heavily Sanctioned Amid Severe Debt Crisis
Official: Olympique Lyonnais have been handed a provisional Ligue 2 relegation.

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Quote from: Mame89 on November 15, 2024, 09:23:27 AM

In addition, the teams in the French League are not like the teams in the English Premier League (EPL), many clubs compete to become champions, sometimes small teams are able to beat big teams. Currently PSG is six points ahead of Monaco which means PSG will win the League One trophy again this season, although the season is still long, but Monaco will have difficulty catching up with the six-point gap. Unless Monaco is six points ahead, maybe they have the spirit in every match so as not to lose points.

The difference between the premier league and french league is too big, there aren't many clubs that can challenge for the title in the french league and that's why PSG are always winning even when they're not playing at their best. They sold their best player and some other good players that were in the team yet they're still leading the french league with 6 points and 23 goals difference. Monaco can't keep up with PSG but if this was to be the premier league, you'll see other big 6 teams chasing the league with the top team which is Manchester city. PSG in the French league is unbeaten this season and they might go unbeaten too as I don't see any team winning them.

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In last season, we have impressive Brest in top 3 spots which allow them for having spot into Champions League where currently they are undefeated, but things are not well for them in Ligue 1 as they have 6 defeats from their 11 games which put them into middle of the league table in this season they have problems in attack as in last 5 games they have 7 points and their attack is making things worst for them.
In this game against Montpellier they lost badly with this was second win for bottom side which is having no impact on their spot, but surely this is huge setback for the Brest which is trying to make things better for remaining part of this season even their chances are not good enough for having spot into top four again if they keep playing like this for again without improving their quality and bringing good attacking strategy.

I would guess that when a team does better than expected, mainly that is almost always temporary and not that consistent. We have seen so many teams, from so many leagues, that does well for a season and in the end they end up with nothing at all and I believe that we are going to end up with something not so profitable for most of the time.
I believe that the best thing to do in this case would be just making sure that we are not seeing this team get terrible. Because there are cases where these teams not only go from great to mediocre, but actually get to terrible level. Like literally relegation level and I do not think that it would be wise to do something like that, they should try to do a bit decently at least, that's where the money is. If they keep playing terribly then they are not going to get anything good, and that makes no sense, they could use this UCL money and the future to make themselves a consistently better team if they use their cards right.

There have been a lot of teams in recent history who have become terrible and being actually really good. We even have seen a lot of teams face that problem when they had a change of Manager. Even teams like Manchester United which had a really good history. And now it looks like history is the only thing they can talk about because the present is not good for them. And actually, I will say that it is very hard to say what will happen at what point.

In the last season, they have finished in the third position. The season before that they have finished in the 14th position if I am not wrong. And now in this season, they are in the closed position. It has been quite a roller coaster for them. I wish they will be able to improve their performance quickly.

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Why getting worried over spilled milk. Mbappe is gone for good and it's high time PSG faces reality and look for how they can get a good replacement for Mbappe, so that they can strengthen the club with the players that they have for the continuity of winning the title always, and also focus on how they can win UCL some dsy.

What you suggest is actually quite right because PSG does not need to think about Mbappe anymore for this season because PSG only needs to think about how to live this season as well as possible and must be willing to take advantage of the transfer market at the beginning of next year to target some of the best players they want. Because PSG only finds it difficult to get the UCL trophy, while for the trophy in Ligue 1 I think PSG can still fight quite relaxed in terms of getting it because in Ligue 1 only PSG has more strength so PSG is still able to get the trophy here.

I see PSG has a big project with coach Enrique after the departure of its star players, PSG so far seems to be enough to fight in the Champions League, they even do not hesitate to buy star players. PSG at that time was still strengthened by Mbappe, Neymar, Messi, and Ramos in their defense. However, they still had difficulty winning the UCL. so PSG did not buy star players because Enrique wanted to build a team from the bottom, especially the mentality. Maybe if the scenario is built now, if successful, they will be a strong team as a team.

Now that all their star players have left, it is getting harder to compete in the Champions League. Even so, they are still quite superior to League 1, and are predicted to be able to win the League 1 trophy easily without any obstacles, considering that they do not have any worthy competitors.

So in my opinion, Enrique's current goal is not to focus on chasing the UCL trophy but to focus on building the foundation first so that one day they can compete with other teams in the Champions League. It was proven in yesterday's transfer market, they did not buy star players, they did not even shop for players like Enrique who wanted to utilize academy players.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 15, 2024, 09:11:05 AM

I also don't understand why people are still discussing Mbappe's times at PSG. He has left, end of story.

PSG doesn't need him to win titles. They can still continue to dominate the Ligue 1 very easily. When it comes to the Champions League, they can still be competitive for the title. It all depends on how strong you are as a team. One man can't save the day for you all the time. There is no such kind of a mentality in modern football.

It also funny me when I see any discussion about him, maybe the discussion do start whenever PSG lost or draw a game in the Champions League because he used to be the main man in their squad that do give them confidence in the Champions league back then.

The team really misses him because they have to start building a strong team work after he left, and it will affect them in some games even though the league 1 is still in their control, but their dominance has reduced because they do drop some points they are not supposed to have dropped. Monaco is another team that has improved, therefore PSG need to be very careful this season because Monaco can be a tough title contenders with them.

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They actually had a good teamwork at the beginning of the season but they can't reflect that onto the Champions League yet. It is a pretty bad start and their next game is against Bayern Munich away. Tongue

Gradually, the players will get used to each other and their team work will start working for them in the Champions League. However, this season’s Champions League is not for them because I don’t think they will go far in the Champions league this season.

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There are three promoted teams this season in Ligue 1 and in fact, only Auxerre has managed to be in the middle of the table. As for the other two teams, Angers and St Etienne have the same points tally of 10, and they are currently in the bottom zone of the table. But indeed, about Auxerre who basically won the Ligue 2 trophy last season, still managed to have a good performance in competing in Ligue 1 this season, despite their status as a promotion team. But, so far Auxerre only has a good winning record at home, while for away matches that Auxerre still often loses away from home. But yes, at least as a promotion team then of course, with the success of Auxerre in the middle of the standings it is also still a good result for them, at least it will stay in Ligue 1 and not be relegated again.

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Quote from: CageMabok on November 15, 2024, 04:37:05 AM

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Why getting worried over spilled milk. Mbappe is gone for good and it's high time PSG faces reality and look for how they can get a good replacement for Mbappe, so that they can strengthen the club with the players that they have for the continuity of winning the title always, and also focus on how they can win UCL some dsy.

What you suggest is actually quite right because PSG does not need to think about Mbappe anymore for this season because PSG only needs to think about how to live this season as well as possible and must be willing to take advantage of the transfer market at the beginning of next year to target some of the best players they want. Because PSG only finds it difficult to get the UCL trophy, while for the trophy in Ligue 1 I think PSG can still fight quite relaxed in terms of getting it because in Ligue 1 only PSG has more strength so PSG is still able to get the trophy here.

Yes, when the player has not proved anything good for his team, then one should not think much about it. They should choose a player who is strong and can win most of the matches because their next match is going to be against Bayern Munich which is leading to a clean defeat. Stop thinking psg going to win this season because as long as there are teams like Bayern Munich, teams like PSG will not win this season. If they play them completely weak and strong themselves, they might even win. Although they should be worried about their next match and not winning the season. If you look at the record between them and the match against Bayern Munich, you will have an idea of whether they deserve this season or not.

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Quote from: ITExpert on November 15, 2024, 08:44:30 AM

Quote from: Sim_card on November 14, 2024, 11:26:19 AM

Why getting worried over spilled milk. Mbappe is gone for good and it's high time PSG faces reality and look for how they can get a good replacement for Mbappe, so that they can strengthen the club with the players that they have for the continuity of winning the title always, and also focus on how they can win UCL some dsy.

PSG have a good record and believe they will be stronger after replacing this player but I don't see any truth in this, if all these players help each other, it will become stronger. But I doubt for him not to win the title because he is too strong and high performing to not win the title. But they can certainly get to the end of it. PSG will face Bayern Munich in their next match in which they will face a sure defeat. They will have to work hard to compete against Bayern Munich.

In the match, PSG and Bayern Munich really need a win to improve their position in the standings. Bayern Munich, who are in 17th place in the standings, must maintain their position to be able to advance to the play-off round, because a defeat or draw in this match could make Bayern Munich drop to the bottom of the standings and out of the play-off zone.

Likewise with PSG, who are currently in 25th place in the standings, from the four matches that have been played, PSG have only been able to achieve one win, one draw and the rest have experienced defeat. They have only been able to collect 4 points for the time being. And that puts PSG in the relegation zone. So this match against Bayern Munich is very important to continue the hope of advancing to the next round.

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Quote from: hahay on November 14, 2024, 11:58:35 AM

One of the reasons PSG is able to stay firmly at the top of the Ligue 1 standings from season to season is because no team in Ligue 1 is able to have stable and consistent performance throughout the season. So, even though sometimes at the beginning of the season there are other teams that are able to be at the top of the standings, but over time that team will also lose its consistency. Thus, PSG will always succeed in being able to return to the top of the standings. Although indeed, at least when Mbappe left at that time, at least made me curious at first, whether PSG would still remain solid at the top of the standings or maybe fail. But yes, the fact is that PSG still managed to get the Ligue 1 trophy again this season even without Mbappe.

True. Indeed, PSG is a good club but they are actually not that strong, this can be seen if they play in European competitions. But they can dominate League One because their competitors are not consistent and in terms of squad they are not comparable to PSG. That is why even though PSG lost star players, they still dominate League One because they have built a foundation from several years ago.

In addition, the teams in the French League are not like the teams in the English Premier League (EPL), many clubs compete to become champions, sometimes small teams are able to beat big teams. Currently PSG is six points ahead of Monaco which means PSG will win the League One trophy again this season, although the season is still long, but Monaco will have difficulty catching up with the six-point gap. Unless Monaco is six points ahead, maybe they have the spirit in every match so as not to lose points.

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I also don't understand why people are still discussing Mbappe's times at PSG. He has left, end of story.

PSG doesn't need him to win titles. They can still continue to dominate the Ligue 1 very easily. When it comes to the Champions League, they can still be competitive for the title. It all depends on how strong you are as a team. One man can't save the day for you all the time. There is no such kind of a mentality in modern football.

They actually had a good teamwork at the beginning of the season but they can't reflect that onto the Champions League yet. It is a pretty bad start and their next game is against Bayern Munich away. Tongue

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