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The result of the Lyon - Marseille game is showing how desperate Lyon are this season.

Marseille got a red card in the fifth minute already. But they still won by 3-2 away. It sounds really crazy honestly. Grin

Lyon can't even win a game home against a team played the whole game with 10 players. What's next now? Huh

Do you think we will see Lyon recovering in the second part of the season just like the previous one? I personally hope so. They are once again hanging around the relegation zone...

The same manager, nice new signings but they just can't get over it anyway.

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Quote from: mammusu on September 23, 2024, 08:50:19 AM

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As I thought before no matter what happens, Marseille will still get 3 points from Lyon. From the quality of the current players Marseille is very good and has become one of the strongest challengers by PSG after Greenwood joined Marseille, everything has changed for the better.

Lyon's performance has been poor since the start of this season. Lyon have not won any match except the match against Strasbourg. Lyon's performance in each match was poor. On the other hand, Marseille is one of the strongest teams in Ligue 1 this season. They have performed well in every match.

Lyon's main weakness is that their defenders are not playing well. And this is why the team lost against Marseille as well. However, the performance of Lyon players in this match was quite good. If their defense was a bit stronger they could have picked up points against Marseille. Lyon conceded 11 goals in 5 matches. Lyon's coach should take necessary steps to strengthen the team's defense. Otherwise, this team cannot be in the top 10 of the table.

Marseille managed to win full points in the continuation of ligue 1 this season and the 3 points they got over Lyon were able to make them currently in second place in ligue 1, the points earned by Marseille and PSG are currently the same 13 but PSG is ahead by a point difference over marseille which makes them entitled to claim 1st place in the current ligue 1 standings, Marseille this season has made a lot of breakthroughs in team building, not only bringing in De Zerbi as their new coach, Marseille has also made a lot of good signings so as to improve the quality of the team they have, the only thing that is most regrettable may be Aubameyang exit this season from the team, but at least at the moment they have Henrique and also Greenwood who can be relied on in scoring goals.
So far, the match between Marseille and Lyon has often caused controversy and also riots between spectators, but fortunately yesterday match was quite conducive with very tight security .

It looks like Marseille has a good opportunity to keep on adding points in the next two games. Looking at their game, the team has become more solid plus the recent appointment of De Zerbi as a coach and getting some new quality players, it places Marseille into clear favorites. With rather weaker opponents, Marseille is supposed to win two matches and maintain its standing. Well, but of course what really makes an impression is their duel with PSG later on after that. The match against PSG always attracts plenty of attention, especially with both teams' current conditions being at the very top of the league table at this time. The duel will undoubtedly set the tone for the remaining part of this season's Ligue 1 competition.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on September 23, 2024, 01:47:33 AM

Yes you are right that the PSG vs Reims match always keeps mystery and quite often they end the match with draw and the last time PSG won was last season, actually in every victory always shows landslide result for PSG but that football that really can't be predicted for sure.
But I got replacement victory for another match with much better odds, Monaco is still as expected by beating Le Havre and Monaco game is really good enough, plus Marseille victory today against Lyon with score of 2 - 3 so that Marseille and Monaco victory made me not feel so disappointed with PSG failure.
Marseille lost one of their players early in the first half and with 10 players they were still able to play very well and win, if there was no red card maybe Marseille could have won by landslide today.

The Marseilles victory was one of the most noticed yesterday due to the circumstances around it, imagining winning with a red card it was enough reason for many to give some attention to it but that of Monaco was really not much of a surprise due to the fact that they were both almost equal teams, that's how I see it, I also wasn't expecting much off that game because I don't see both teams to be of much contending strength a s they are of the average starters of their league. Nevertheless congratulations to you on your win mate.

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Quote from: Tony116 on September 23, 2024, 03:55:22 AM

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As I thought before no matter what happens, Marseille will still get 3 points from Lyon. From the quality of the current players Marseille is very good and has become one of the strongest challengers by PSG after Greenwood joined Marseille, everything has changed for the better.

Lyon's performance has been poor since the start of this season. Lyon have not won any match except the match against Strasbourg. Lyon's performance in each match was poor. On the other hand, Marseille is one of the strongest teams in Ligue 1 this season. They have performed well in every match.

Lyon's main weakness is that their defenders are not playing well. And this is why the team lost against Marseille as well. However, the performance of Lyon players in this match was quite good. If their defense was a bit stronger they could have picked up points against Marseille. Lyon conceded 11 goals in 5 matches. Lyon's coach should take necessary steps to strengthen the team's defense. Otherwise, this team cannot be in the top 10 of the table.

Marseille managed to win full points in the continuation of ligue 1 this season and the 3 points they got over Lyon were able to make them currently in second place in ligue 1, the points earned by Marseille and PSG are currently the same 13 but PSG is ahead by a point difference over marseille which makes them entitled to claim 1st place in the current ligue 1 standings, Marseille this season has made a lot of breakthroughs in team building, not only bringing in De Zerbi as their new coach, Marseille has also made a lot of good signings so as to improve the quality of the team they have, the only thing that is most regrettable may be Aubameyang exit this season from the team, but at least at the moment they have Henrique and also Greenwood who can be relied on in scoring goals.
So far, the match between Marseille and Lyon has often caused controversy and also riots between spectators, but fortunately yesterday match was quite conducive with very tight security .

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Quote from: hahay on September 21, 2024, 02:32:05 PM

Indeed, previously we would consider PSG to win easily because at least, it was also based on the good results that PSG had in Ligue 1. But in fact, PSG could not win easily against Girona yesterday, because Girona also managed to play well and disciplined so that PSG found it difficult to score goals. At least, I also expected a big win for PSG considering that other top teams were able to win at least with a score of 3-0, but PSG still had difficulty winning in the Champions League even though they only played against Girona.

Thus, I think PSG still needs time to really have good results in the Champions League too, ofcourse so that the results that PSG got in the Champions League are the same as those in Ligue 1. But yes,because PSG also did not make any player purchases in the last transfer market, then maybe that also had a less than good impact on rotating PSG players. Thus, it seems that if the transfer window opens again in January later, it might be better for PSG to buy some players, at least to make the player rotation work well.

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I don't know what they are celebrating,, they should thank Gazzaniga for giving this win in post-galactico era. They didn't deserve to win that match anyhow, cause they missed too many chances. They registering 26 shots, 5 corners, and 5 shots on target whereas Girona made only 3 shots, but PSG failed to net any of those shots. They had so many chances that they could actually have scored 7 goals easily in this match if they actually could finish well and keep the shots on target.

Whatever, there is no way that the goalkeeper of Girona stopped everything and let that go in between both his arms and legs.
I understand that the ball took a deflection while traveling towards him but still, it was slow enough and he had more than enough time to react to it in time. Girona was actually doing well in the defense. But 1 mistake took 1 point away from them. I really don't understand how Paulo Gazzaniga can make such mistakes at the highest level of competition? Can't they handle the pressure of playing in the Champions League?

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After a tough match with Girona, PSG is losing points in Ligue 1, these are probably the first games since the beginning of the season when PSG found it difficult to win, or even lose points in a match. But Marseille will play away against Lyon today, and although Lyon looks pretty weak, I think this match will not be easy for Marseille. Unless Lyon's poor defense makes quick mistakes, in which case Marseille will be able to win and equal PSG in points. By the way, Monaco also has a very good chance of winning the home match against Le Havre, so with this draw, PSG can give their opponents additional motivation to win these matches.

PSG just tested a busy schedule and they beginning to lose point, they better fix up and show that they're a strong club and can play multiple tournaments without losing points in the league. The game against Reims was a difficult one to win as Nakamura scored very early into the game and they went back to defend and made PSG work so hard to get their goal. PSG had all the possession but they couldn't use it for anything as Reims made sure that PSG possession didn't affect their gameplan. After this game week, PSG are still going to be top of the table even though Monaco win their game that's currently ongoing. The game just started and it's goal less but Monaco will want to win this game to close.the gap.

Despite the difficulty in creating goal opportunities, at least PSG did not lose all points and still got 1 point in the match as well as Reims. And I think that's the effect of PSG players being a little tired because they just played in the Champions League with a difference of 3 days ago having to play in League 1 but at least they still optimize their game so as not to lose.
Moreover, if PSG is faced with a tight schedule and a time gap close to the Champions League match, I think PSG will prioritize UCL first and after that they will think about a strategy to play in League 1.
And there is still plenty of time for PSG to create more wins. Believe me, PSG is still the strongest club in League 1 if they are left behind, PSG will be able to catch up.

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Quote from: len01 on September 23, 2024, 02:44:24 AM

As I thought before no matter what happens, Marseille will still get 3 points from Lyon. From the quality of the current players Marseille is very good and has become one of the strongest challengers by PSG after Greenwood joined Marseille, everything has changed for the better.

Lyon's performance has been poor since the start of this season. Lyon have not won any match except the match against Strasbourg. Lyon's performance in each match was poor. On the other hand, Marseille is one of the strongest teams in Ligue 1 this season. They have performed well in every match.

Lyon's main weakness is that their defenders are not playing well. And this is why the team lost against Marseille as well. However, the performance of Lyon players in this match was quite good. If their defense was a bit stronger they could have picked up points against Marseille. Lyon conceded 11 goals in 5 matches. Lyon's coach should take necessary steps to strengthen the team's defense. Otherwise, this team cannot be in the top 10 of the table.

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Quote from: bering on September 23, 2024, 01:48:41 AM

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Even though they only played with 10 people, Marseille was able to win this match with a lot of struggle. Playing at the opponent's home with 10 people since the 5th minute is not easy, but they were able to show that they could win even with the limitations they had. At first I thought they would lose when they got a red card at the start of the match, but it turned out I was wrong.
All goals were scored in the second half, Lyon was able to take the lead first, well I thought after Lyon's goal they would be able to maintain it, but Marseille was able to quickly reply and even turn things around. In added time Lyon was able to equalize, but surprisingly Marseille was also able to score another goal.

Marseille has been proven that they have strong mentality because although playing with 10 players but Marseille didn't give up but indeed red card since early minutes makes Marseille playing more defensive and only rely on counter attack strategy and this situation makes Marseille playing with under pressure and we can see it based on the statistic that Marseille only have 36% ball possession but this strategy was successfully to makes them can beat Lyon
For Lyon i think they are not lucky because during the match they got several good chances to scores one of them is from Lacazette through an penalty kick but unfortunately Lacazette missed the penalty

As I thought before no matter what happens, Marseille will still get 3 points from Lyon. From the quality of the current players Marseille is very good and has become one of the strongest challengers by PSG after Greenwood joined Marseille, everything has changed for the better.
Initially it was frustrating to see Balerdi having to leave the match, but seeing Marseille playing style made me sure that De Zerbi team would have no trouble stealing 3 goals from Lyon goal.
On the one hand, Lyon is still the same as last season starting the season with a very bad performance and this is an opportunity for De Zerbi.

BTW, it seems that Enrique is starting to panic seeing the improvements that have occurred in Marseille and is putting pressure on Enrique to immediately find a new strategy.

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Reims made sure they were not embarrassed by Paris Saint Germain in the last week, yes they managed to hold Paris Saint Germain to a 1-1 draw. Even though they were under constant pressure from Paris Saint Germain, they managed to hold it well so that they could secure 1 point from this match.
The quick goal they scored in the 9th minute was the key in my opinion, because with that goal they could be a little comfortable when defending, even though in the end they still conceded in the 68th minute and could not maintain their lead. However, this result is a good result for them, considering that the opponent they faced was the strongest club in Ligue 1.

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Quote from: hyudien on September 22, 2024, 10:50:54 PM

Even though they only played with 10 people, Marseille was able to win this match with a lot of struggle. Playing at the opponent's home with 10 people since the 5th minute is not easy, but they were able to show that they could win even with the limitations they had. At first I thought they would lose when they got a red card at the start of the match, but it turned out I was wrong.
All goals were scored in the second half, Lyon was able to take the lead first, well I thought after Lyon's goal they would be able to maintain it, but Marseille was able to quickly reply and even turn things around. In added time Lyon was able to equalize, but surprisingly Marseille was also able to score another goal.

Marseille has been proven that they have strong mentality because although playing with 10 players but Marseille didn't give up but indeed red card since early minutes makes Marseille playing more defensive and only rely on counter attack strategy and this situation makes Marseille playing with under pressure and we can see it based on the statistic that Marseille only have 36% ball possession but this strategy was successfully to makes them can beat Lyon
For Lyon i think they are not lucky because during the match they got several good chances to scores one of them is from Lacazette through an penalty kick but unfortunately Lacazette missed the penalty

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Quote from: len01 on September 22, 2024, 03:12:58 AM

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Don't be surprised by the draw because the meeting between Reims and PSG is still a mystery that is difficult to solve because the draw continues to occur. As we can see that in terms of H2H the chance of a draw is very large but if judged from the quality of the squad, PSG should have a greater chance of winning.
This is like Reims who already know the strategies and tactics that PSG often uses so that Reims can always hold a draw when competing against PSG.
Many were disappointed with the match because bettors bet on PSG victory and I even think that PSG was able to score more than 2.5.

This draw gives Marseille an opportunity who will face Lyon today. And if Marseille manages to get 3 points from the match, PSG position will definitely be shifted.

Yes you are right that the PSG vs Reims match always keeps mystery and quite often they end the match with draw and the last time PSG won was last season, actually in every victory always shows landslide result for PSG but that football that really can't be predicted for sure.
But I got replacement victory for another match with much better odds, Monaco is still as expected by beating Le Havre and Monaco game is really good enough, plus Marseille victory today against Lyon with score of 2 - 3 so that Marseille and Monaco victory made me not feel so disappointed with PSG failure.
Marseille lost one of their players early in the first half and with 10 players they were still able to play very well and win, if there was no red card maybe Marseille could have won by landslide today.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 22, 2024, 06:20:27 AM

PSG played only 3 days after the Girona game. It was a really tough one for them indeed. In such a busy schedule I'm not surprised to see them dropping two points against Reims.

They still played better than their opponent of course. If only they scored first then I think they wouldn't lose. That early goal made things more difficult. Now there is a good opportunity for Marseille to take. Wink

Today we are going to find out in the Lyon - Marseille game. Even though Lyon started horrible, the odds are like 2.90 to 2.34. I think 2.34 odds are great for taking the risk. Marseille are much stronger than them in every way now.

PSG can't use their UCL game as an excuse for their poor performance in the French league against Reims. They lacked mobility due to the big wall made by their opponent. It's getting even worse when their opponent always lies down on the field to do time wasting. It makes them so frustrated.

And you can see how Reims put the whole of their players behind the ball. They parked the bus against PSG. The problem is, PSG lacks the creativity to penetrate Reims's defense. It forced them to get draws in this game. They must have found a solution how to settle parking bus strategy.

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Quote from: Weawant on September 21, 2024, 06:05:18 PM

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The PSG vs Reims match turned out to be very competitive. The PSG team is at the top of the table having won their first four matches. On the other hand, despite the defeat in the first match, we have seen very good performances from Reims players in every subsequent match. Reims have won their last two matches against Nantes and Rennes. In today's match as well, Reims players are playing to win the home match against PSG.

Reims lead 1-0 at the end of the first half. Nakamura's goal gave Reims the lead in just the ninth minute of the match. PSG's players had 76% of the ball possession and despite several strong attacks, PSG still couldn't equalize the match. Luis Enrique did not include Dembele in his squad for today's match. Meanwhile, three key players in PSG's squad, Donnarumma, Asensio and Ramos, missed the match due to injuries.

This turned out the first draw PSG had in the ligue 1 this season, as they have not recorded anything as such since this season in the ligue 1 but then I'm hoping they are able to maintain this pase and make sure to stay at the top of the table, but about their performance today I wasn't impressed honestly, their opponent reims isn't such a really tough one, I mean they have literally won tougher teams already, so I expected a flawless victory only to see that they literally were even loosing at some point before they managed to get an equalizer.

Competing with Reims, PSG understood that their club must have quality players. Even though they could easily beat other teams in the league, PSG managed to draw the match without being defeated by this team. If Dembele had not scored in the 68th minute, PSG would have been defeated in this match. PSG had won their previous four matches in their local league tournament by big margins but could not maintain that winning streak in the last match. Three points in the last match would have actually put them at 15 and this point would certainly have put them in a safe place on the points table and PSG would have a huge point gap over the second placed team.

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Quote from: Jossque on September 22, 2024, 01:42:18 PM

Monaco managed to defeat Barcelona twice in the last month. Monaco, who won against Barcelona at home during the week, went into the Le Havre match in high spirits. With a comfortable win against Le Havre, Monaco managed to draw level on points with PSG.
After defeating Sturm Graz during the week, Brest managed to beat Toulouse at home. After a poor start to the league with losses against tough opponents, Brest have started to bounce back.

Monaco are on top, especially after they were able to secure a win in the Champions League when they hosted Barcelona. Clearly those were the first 3 points that were very valuable for them to be able to provide tough competition in the Champions League this season. After they returned from the Champions League, they were able to continue their victory by beating Le Havre with a score of 3-1. Monaco is a team that has so far been able to maintain the performance they showed last season, if they can maintain what they are showing now, then it is not impossible that they will put very strong pressure on Paris Saint Germain this season. Last season they were 9 points away at the end of the Ligue 1 standings, hoping that they can improve it again so that Paris Saint Germain does not easily defend the title.

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Even though they only played with 10 people, Marseille was able to win this match with a lot of struggle. Playing at the opponent's home with 10 people since the 5th minute is not easy, but they were able to show that they could win even with the limitations they had. At first I thought they would lose when they got a red card at the start of the match, but it turned out I was wrong.
All goals were scored in the second half, Lyon was able to take the lead first, well I thought after Lyon's goal they would be able to maintain it, but Marseille was able to quickly reply and even turn things around. In added time Lyon was able to equalize, but surprisingly Marseille was also able to score another goal.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 21, 2024, 02:23:27 AM

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Saint Etienne could not avoid the crushing defeat they received in this match, yes they had to endure the shame after 8 goals were scored into their goal without any significant resistance. Nice was very effective in attacking, it was reinforced by the fragile defense built by Saint Etienne.

Maybe because they have just been promoted to Ligue 1 again, their strength is not that good. There are many loopholes that can be exploited by Alwand so easily, and they also do not look that solid. In fact, they have only won 1x and lost 4 times, causing them to be in the bottom 2 of the standings.

Quote from: Weawant on September 22, 2024, 04:59:41 PM

...Marseille winning with a red card was an expression of brilliance, Monaco too was quiet impressive in their performance and their results as the goal difference Margin was a really good one the can be considered commendable, Montpellier and Auxerre literally replicated Lyon Marseille results in a reverse record.

Indeed, they were really unlucky when they got a red card in the 5th minute. But they were able to win with those 10 players. And the deciding factor in the victory was Jonathan Rowe, a substitute who had just come on in the 79th minute, who was finally able to score the winning goal in very injury time, 2 minutes after Lyon's last goal. in the 90+5th minute.

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Quote from: xzone on September 22, 2024, 03:48:45 PM

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PSG played only 3 days after the Girona game. It was a really tough one for them indeed. In such a busy schedule I'm not surprised to see them dropping two points against Reims.

They still played better than their opponent of course. If only they scored first then I think they wouldn't lose. That early goal made things more difficult. Now there is a good opportunity for Marseille to take. Wink

Today we are going to find out in the Lyon - Marseille game. Even though Lyon started horrible, the odds are like 2.90 to 2.34. I think 2.34 odds are great for taking the risk. Marseille are much stronger than them in every way now.

Playing a league game after just three days they hosted Spanish club Girona I know was a difficult task for Paris Saint Germaine but considering the depth of the squad and the quality of players in the team, I was still expecting the club manager Luis Enrique to rotate the the squad and still get a win at Reims.
Paris Saint Germaine like you rightly said was the better team but the home team despite their inferior ball possession in the game made sure they stopped the French champions from getting a winner in the game and that wasn't the result I predicted. However, I must admit that Paris Saint Germaine impressed in that game and deserved better result so I think it's a fair result for them.

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Apparently all the fixtures in the ligue 1 yesterday ended a draw, I can only imagine before now until it turned out a reality in my very before, reality appeared like a magic. Ofcourse the PSG draw would be the highlight of them all yesterday because a draw was the last thing on any one's mind from PSG.

Today the ligue one took a very different stance as they had just a draw and the other games recorded wins against each other, Marseille winning with a red card was an expression of brilliance, Monaco too was quiet impressive in their performance and their results as the goal difference Margin was a really good one the can be considered commendable, Montpellier and Auxerre literally replicated Lyon Marseille results in a reverse record.

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Quote from: beerlover on September 22, 2024, 12:52:10 PM

We should be seeing them do fine, and I think we are going to see PSG end up being the title winners again. Having one tie doesn't negate all the great games they had so far, they had great games and I think it should be clear that the yare going to end up with good results eventually again. We have seen them dominate so many games, this one tie doesn't mean that it's a good situation without a doubt.

Although PSG was only able to get 1 point in this match but it did not make them look bad especially with the performance in 90 minutes I think we understand why PSG is always considered the strongest candidate for Ligue 1.

Nakamura's goal in the 10th minute of the match was enough to surprise PSG which made this an advantage and tactically it is certain that Elsner will change the Reims scheme to a solid defense after getting 1 goal because what they are after if they can't get 3 points then 1 point so as not to lose face in front of their own supporters and that is enough work even PSG must struggle until the match is almost over before they can change the condition of the game with a draw.

I think Enrique is still quite capable of making PSG's performance even better even though in this match they had a little problem because they could not achieve maximum results in terms of points but when talking about the match scheme and dominant possession I think PSG is still very good in this match.

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Quote from: hahay on September 22, 2024, 03:47:59 PM

Is Lyon really that bad? or maybe Lyon wants to repeat the results that happened last season only struggling at the bottom of the table, but managed to rise in the second half of the season. Really a bad result for Lyon, despite Lyon playing at home and the fact that the away team also only played with 10 players since the 5th minute. But still, Lyon really did not maximize this moment well, Lacazette who failed to execute about the penalty and also, Marseille who only played with 10 players but Marseille managed to turn things around and it was a bad result for Lyon because they lost at home at this moment by only playing against a team that played with 10 players.

As far as we can see Lyon played very badly, even Marseille who played with 10 players after the first 5 minutes of the match managed to secure full points, the poor performance reminded us of their reputation last season. The additional three points brought Marseille to the top of the standings, while Lyon had to be satisfied with 14th place. Playing at home will not have any effect, instead it will be a burden because they are required to get additional points because they have only managed to achieve one win this season. De Zerbi looks very satisfied with his team results, his efforts to build squad depth slowly have yielded the expected results.

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