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legendary
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December 10, 2016, 02:32:03 PM
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Didnt you had to take a lecture in stochastic and logic? Should be It is basic lecture for every engineer (the first for sure, not sure if logic is actually a basic lecture for a engineer).

You are putting actual numbers to a proposed phenomenon which lacks even rate metrics (e.g., 'probably 100 million victims'.)  And then trying to tell me that I don't understand 'logic and stochastic' analysis?  Lol.

My complaint is that studies which could honestly pin down some of the rates in what is a very complex system are avoided like the plague.  Those studies which do sneak through are typically quashed, and flawed ones which further a certain narrative are promoted.  I've not seen it yet, but the movie 'vaxxed' is supposed to be about this occurring at the CDC.

Applying 'logic' to the observation that science is skewed and quashed when it goes against the 'safe and effective' mantra about vaccines leads me to believe that they are less 'safe and effective' than the mainstream propaganda would have us believe.  A corollary in logical analysis would be 'why the effort?'. I propose one possible explanation is that the health problems which may be associated with over-vaccination are actually quite profitable and useful to the pharma industry and others.

My hypothesis is nothing new.  Back in the early 50's Bertrand Russell hypothesized that in future 'scientific societies', 'diet and injection' would be among the tools that a leadership would use to produce a more manageable population with attributes and behaviors which would be to their liking.



Reading comprehension. My sources are your anti vaccine blogs with their numbers. LOL

The amount of vaccinations ranges in the multi billion (5++ billion vaccinations).
Do you understand how many deaths and cripples would have been made if vaccines were dangerous?
And exactly this is your narrative: vaccines are dangerous and bad - lead to death or cripple you.

The following is more opinions, nonsense and even more conspiracies from you - i dont even know what to say about that.

Acient-aliens-meme.jpg

You are full of shit dear.

You cant refute anything that is why you are only answering my comment on what a stupid being you are.

Ever heard of ockhams razor? Why do you think no alien reptiles are in power on the flat earth we are living on?


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/top-doctors-reveal-that-vaccines-can-trigger-autoimmunity-turning-our-1710254

^^
legendary
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December 10, 2016, 01:02:58 PM
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Didnt you had to take a lecture in stochastic and logic? Should be It is basic lecture for every engineer (the first for sure, not sure if logic is actually a basic lecture for a engineer).

You are putting actual numbers to a proposed phenomenon which lacks even rate metrics (e.g., 'probably 100 million victims'.)  And then trying to tell me that I don't understand 'logic and stochastic' analysis?  Lol.

My complaint is that studies which could honestly pin down some of the rates in what is a very complex system are avoided like the plague.  Those studies which do sneak through are typically quashed, and flawed ones which further a certain narrative are promoted.  I've not seen it yet, but the movie 'vaxxed' is supposed to be about this occurring at the CDC.

Applying 'logic' to the observation that science is skewed and quashed when it goes against the 'safe and effective' mantra about vaccines leads me to believe that they are less 'safe and effective' than the mainstream propaganda would have us believe.  A corollary in logical analysis would be 'why the effort?'.  I propose one possible explanation is that the health problems which may be associated with over-vaccination are actually quite profitable and useful to the pharma industry and others.

My hypothesis is nothing new.  Back in the early 50's Bertrand Russell hypothesized that in future 'scientific societies', 'diet and injection' would be among the tools that a leadership would use to produce a more manageable population with attributes and behaviors which would be to their liking.

sr. member
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December 10, 2016, 07:50:19 AM
Maybe it is, but how clever is the person who will refuse to use the fridge? From vaccination to give up easier. So I don't believe that non-vaccination will lead to reduced growth of cancer.
full member
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December 10, 2016, 07:42:13 AM

85+% of 2 billion people are 1,7+ billion people.

If what you and your blogs states are true we would see an huge amount (tens of millions of people) dying of vaccination and some more millions getting life long diseases which restricts their physical or psychological body functions.

There would be no power on earth that can hide that.

You must be one of the art degree scientist right?  Roll Eyes
They always have problems with logic.

I (and many many many others) believe that vaccines increase one's chances of falling victim to certain negative health impacts.  That does not mean that everyone who gets vaccinated will, or that someone who has not been vaccinated will not.  It's all about the odds.  This really should not be that difficult.


Reading comprehension.
What are millions of 2 billion people? I made the odds in favor of you people and the numbers are still unreasonable.

If i take the number of your blogs we have probaly 100 millions of victims - dont forget we are giving out vaccines for over 70 years now.


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The percentage of the population with negative health impacts from probably a variety of factors is quite high as evidenced by the rates of prescription drug use.  Plotting vaccines doses against negative health issues shows a correlation (not causation.)  Personally I suspect that such things as chronic mycoplasma infections are probably more impactive on overall health than immune system dysfunction caused by vaccines, though vaccines seem to be a vector for some of these infections due to certain necessities involved in their manufacture.  And it is kind of a fact that a lot of these were developed as non-lethal biological warfare agents though it is not clear that our infection rates from the so developed strains were deliberate, accidental, or none of the above.  I suspect that food is also a significant source of problems these days.

The only corrolation you show is that ill people do take drugs against their illness.
The rest is just your opinion, complete nonsense or some conspiracy theory.


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As for 'seeing', sometimes one doesn't see the forest for the trees.  I've seen autism rates go from something like 1/10,000 when I was a kid to something like 1/60.  With all our wonderful science somehow we just can't seem to figure it out (shrugs.)  Ya, ya, 'better diagnosis, blah, blah, blah'.  Two+ orders of magnitude?  Not buying it and neither are most nurses and doctors when they are willing to speak freely.  Millennials here in the U.S. have never known a time when 2/3 of the population didn't wander around like zombies but I do.  Even we who remember the 70's look back at films of people from the 50's in awe.

We have much higher increase in diabetes, cancer, heart and blood vessel diseases - all this because of vaccines? Or is it just the advancement of our society with its sex drugs and rock n roll?
Not to forget Mc donalds and burger king


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Technically I'm an engineer FWIW.  Or was when last working formally.

Didnt you had to take a lecture in stochastic and logic? Should be It is basic lecture for every engineer (the first for sure, not sure if logic is actually a basic lecture for a engineer).


Why only fast-food guilty? I think first to blame the fridge. Since the refrigerator has appeared in every home started to have problems with excess weight, and this leads to the development of various diseases.
legendary
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December 10, 2016, 03:16:50 AM

85+% of 2 billion people are 1,7+ billion people.

If what you and your blogs states are true we would see an huge amount (tens of millions of people) dying of vaccination and some more millions getting life long diseases which restricts their physical or psychological body functions.

There would be no power on earth that can hide that.

You must be one of the art degree scientist right?  Roll Eyes
They always have problems with logic.

I (and many many many others) believe that vaccines increase one's chances of falling victim to certain negative health impacts.  That does not mean that everyone who gets vaccinated will, or that someone who has not been vaccinated will not.  It's all about the odds.  This really should not be that difficult.


Reading comprehension.
What are millions of 2 billion people? I made the odds in favor of you people and the numbers are still unreasonable.

If i take the number of your blogs we have probaly 100 millions of victims - dont forget we are giving out vaccines for over 70 years now.


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The percentage of the population with negative health impacts from probably a variety of factors is quite high as evidenced by the rates of prescription drug use.  Plotting vaccines doses against negative health issues shows a correlation (not causation.)  Personally I suspect that such things as chronic mycoplasma infections are probably more impactive on overall health than immune system dysfunction caused by vaccines, though vaccines seem to be a vector for some of these infections due to certain necessities involved in their manufacture.  And it is kind of a fact that a lot of these were developed as non-lethal biological warfare agents though it is not clear that our infection rates from the so developed strains were deliberate, accidental, or none of the above.  I suspect that food is also a significant source of problems these days.

The only corrolation you show is that ill people do take drugs against their illness.
The rest is just your opinion, complete nonsense or some conspiracy theory.


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As for 'seeing', sometimes one doesn't see the forest for the trees.  I've seen autism rates go from something like 1/10,000 when I was a kid to something like 1/60.  With all our wonderful science somehow we just can't seem to figure it out (shrugs.)  Ya, ya, 'better diagnosis, blah, blah, blah'.  Two+ orders of magnitude?  Not buying it and neither are most nurses and doctors when they are willing to speak freely.  Millennials here in the U.S. have never known a time when 2/3 of the population didn't wander around like zombies but I do.  Even we who remember the 70's look back at films of people from the 50's in awe.

We have much higher increase in diabetes, cancer, heart and blood vessel diseases - all this because of vaccines? Or is it just the advancement of our society with its sex drugs and rock n roll?
Not to forget Mc donalds and burger king


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Technically I'm an engineer FWIW.  Or was when last working formally.

Didnt you had to take a lecture in stochastic and logic? Should be It is basic lecture for every engineer (the first for sure, not sure if logic is actually a basic lecture for a engineer).

hero member
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December 10, 2016, 01:41:51 AM
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I (and many many many others) believe that vaccines increase one's chances of falling victim to certain negative health impacts.  That does not mean that everyone who gets vaccinated will, or that someone who has not been vaccinated will not.  It's all about the odds.  This really should not be that difficult.

They make people play their silly little russian roulette game for absolutely no provable reason. Its ok to play russian rulette for me, but dont coerce people into having to play that silly game.

For example during the I world war one could imagine that there are excelent grounds to get the tetanus disease. People were lying with open wounds on the ground in the horse shit. All those requirements must be met. And still there was just single cases of that disease. Until they started experimenting with the vaccines on soldiers. They inflicted the disease uppon the soldiers and claimed afterwards that vaccines are useful because the soldiers had Tetanus. THEY INFLICTED IT! Numbers of such a cases are numberless. I just dont have the need and time to write all the cases.

If vaccines are so great why bother using government to coerce people to do the vaccination? If they would be so great people should put themselfves in huge lines to be vaccinated. They dont. Only the most insecure, most irresponsible, and the dumbest mothers do that.

Deadly diseases are a subject of absolutely horryfing conditions to get it. Extreme malnutrition is one of the aspect. The other aspect is absolutely unclean enviroment. We need to understand there is an absolute horror in the world and as such will be such a deadly diseases.

As for non deadly and non crippling disease. Most of them have good health benefit to have in some point in live. Like water pox or mumps. The data shows that getting those diseases naturally, decrease your chance of brain cancer in the future.
legendary
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December 10, 2016, 12:18:51 AM

85+% of 2 billion people are 1,7+ billion people.

If what you and your blogs states are true we would see an huge amount (tens of millions of people) dying of vaccination and some more millions getting life long diseases which restricts their physical or psychological body functions.

There would be no power on earth that can hide that.

You must be one of the art degree scientist right?  Roll Eyes
They always have problems with logic.

I (and many many many others) believe that vaccines increase one's chances of falling victim to certain negative health impacts.  That does not mean that everyone who gets vaccinated will, or that someone who has not been vaccinated will not.  It's all about the odds.  This really should not be that difficult.

The percentage of the population with negative health impacts from probably a variety of factors is quite high as evidenced by the rates of prescription drug use.  Plotting vaccines doses against negative health issues shows a correlation (not causation.)  Personally I suspect that such things as chronic mycoplasma infections are probably more impactive on overall health than immune system dysfunction caused by vaccines, though vaccines seem to be a vector for some of these infections due to certain necessities involved in their manufacture.  And it is kind of a fact that a lot of these were developed as non-lethal biological warfare agents though it is not clear that our infection rates from the so developed strains were deliberate, accidental, or none of the above.  I suspect that food is also a significant source of problems these days.

As for 'seeing', sometimes one doesn't see the forest for the trees.  I've seen autism rates go from something like 1/10,000 when I was a kid to something like 1/60.  With all our wonderful science somehow we just can't seem to figure it out (shrugs.)  Ya, ya, 'better diagnosis, blah, blah, blah'.  Two+ orders of magnitude?  Not buying it and neither are most nurses and doctors when they are willing to speak freely.  Millennials here in the U.S. have never known a time when 2/3 of the population didn't wander around like zombies but I do.  Even we who remember the 70's look back at films of people from the 50's in awe.

Technically I'm an engineer FWIW.  Or was when last working formally.

legendary
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December 09, 2016, 11:28:11 PM

Over 85% of the first world population is vaccinated.

Do you understand the implications of this sentence?
If you think yes, just belive me you dont.

And btw. posting links to blogs is no science.

You are not saying anything so there are no 'implications'.
If you think you are, just believe me you aren't

And btw, if I wear my white lab coat and eye protection when I post then it's 'science'.



85+% of 2 billion people are 1,7+ billion people.

If what you and your blogs states are true we would see a huge amount (tens of millions of people) dying of vaccination and some more millions getting life long diseases which restricts their physical or psychological body functions.

There would be no power on earth that could hide that.


You must be one of the art degree scientists right?  Roll Eyes
They always have problems with logic.
legendary
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December 09, 2016, 11:18:41 PM
#99

Over 85% of the first world population is vaccinated.

Do you understand the implications of this sentence?
If you think yes, just belive me you dont.

And btw. posting links to blogs is no science.

You are not saying anything so there are no 'implications'.
If you think you are, just believe me you aren't

And btw, if I wear my white lab coat and eye protection when I post then it's 'science'.

legendary
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Merit: 1145
December 09, 2016, 11:09:32 PM
#98
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No 'scientific' total health outcome studies comparing vaxxed vs. unvaxxed somehow.  Much to difficult I guess.  Hey, here's a very recent article I'd not seen:

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/2016-health-study-on-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-children-pulled-from-publication-after-it-found-vaxxed-kids-more-likely-to-get-autism_122016

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Maybe, but factual to the point of proof as in the scientific journal article that was “unpublished” after vaccine acolytes raised all sorts of hell about it and the study’s results proving that
Vaccinated children were significantly less likely than the unvaccinated to have been diagnosed with chickenpox and pertussis, but significantly more likely to have been diagnosed with pneumonia, otitis media, allergies and NDDs (defined as Autism Spectrum Disorder, Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, and/or a learning disability)."

So you can choose for your kids between the possibility of getting a mild rash (or, to be fair, vicious cough for some weeks) and life-long immunity, or possibly being converted into a life-long retard or life-long consumer of expensive pharma offerings to help with the misery of not being able to breath half the time.  Your choice.*

(*)not applicable in the state of California.


80-85% of the first world population is vaccinated.

You must be one of the life long retarded autist zombies you talk about LOL

We've earlier established that you have a reading deficit so it would not be a surprise to find one in mathematics as well.  NDD?  Similac baby?  Here are some study words for the day:  'likely', 'possibility', 'less', 'more'.

As an aside, it's worth note that between 60% and 70% of Americans, depending on who's study one uses, now take prescription drugs for one chronic condition or another (and often multiple of them.)  I have no doubt that TPTB would like to see that be up around 90%, and we're getting there.



Over 85% of the first world population is vaccinated.

Do you understand the implications of this sentence?
If you think yes, just belive me you dont.

And btw. posting links to blogs is no science.


It is quite funny that especially you are talking about deficits in reading comprehension and stochastic - are you by chance a popular comedian in real life?
legendary
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December 09, 2016, 10:50:27 PM
#97
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No 'scientific' total health outcome studies comparing vaxxed vs. unvaxxed somehow.  Much to difficult I guess.  Hey, here's a very recent article I'd not seen:

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/2016-health-study-on-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-children-pulled-from-publication-after-it-found-vaxxed-kids-more-likely-to-get-autism_122016

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Maybe, but factual to the point of proof as in the scientific journal article that was “unpublished” after vaccine acolytes raised all sorts of hell about it and the study’s results proving that
Vaccinated children were significantly less likely than the unvaccinated to have been diagnosed with chickenpox and pertussis, but significantly more likely to have been diagnosed with pneumonia, otitis media, allergies and NDDs (defined as Autism Spectrum Disorder, Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, and/or a learning disability)."

So you can choose for your kids between the possibility of getting a mild rash (or, to be fair, vicious cough for some weeks) and life-long immunity, or possibly being converted into a life-long retard or life-long consumer of expensive pharma offerings to help with the misery of not being able to breath half the time.  Your choice.*

(*)not applicable in the state of California.


80-85% of the first world population is vaccinated.

You must be one of the life long retarded autist zombies you talk about LOL

We've earlier established that you have a reading deficit so it would not be a surprise to find one in mathematics as well.  NDD?  Similac baby?  Here are some study words for the day:  'likely', 'possibility', 'less', 'more'.

As an aside, it's worth note that between 60% and 70% of Americans, depending on who's study one uses, now take prescription drugs for one chronic condition or another (and often multiple of them.)  I have no doubt that TPTB would like to see that be up around 90%, and we're getting there.

legendary
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December 09, 2016, 09:59:30 PM
#96

From: http://smartvax.org/2011/04/29/allergy-and-anaphylaxis-history/
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The terms “allergy” and “anaphylaxis” were created following a strange illness that affected up to 50% of vaccinated children at the close of the 1800s.

Of course with our modern vaccinations and schedules there are no longer any problems with allergies and no company makes any money selling medicine to people to treat them in a life-long palliative manner.

And so few autoimune related issues either.

No 'scientific' total health outcome studies comparing vaxxed vs. unvaxxed somehow.  Much to difficult I guess.  Hey, here's a very recent article I'd not seen:

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/2016-health-study-on-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-children-pulled-from-publication-after-it-found-vaxxed-kids-more-likely-to-get-autism_122016

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Maybe, but factual to the point of proof as in the scientific journal article that was “unpublished” after vaccine acolytes raised all sorts of hell about it and the study’s results proving that
Vaccinated children were significantly less likely than the unvaccinated to have been diagnosed with chickenpox and pertussis, but significantly more likely to have been diagnosed with pneumonia, otitis media, allergies and NDDs (defined as Autism Spectrum Disorder, Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, and/or a learning disability)."

So you can choose for your kids between the possibility of getting a mild rash (or, to be fair, vicious cough for some weeks) and life-long immunity, or possibly being converted into a life-long retard or life-long consumer of expensive pharma offerings to help with the misery of not being able to breath half the time.  Your choice.*

(*)not applicable in the state of California.



80-85% of the first world population is vaccinated.

You must be one of the life long retarded autist zombies you talk about LOL
legendary
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December 09, 2016, 03:37:11 PM
#95

From: http://smartvax.org/2011/04/29/allergy-and-anaphylaxis-history/
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The terms “allergy” and “anaphylaxis” were created following a strange illness that affected up to 50% of vaccinated children at the close of the 1800s.

Of course with our modern vaccinations and schedules there are no longer any problems with allergies and no company makes any money selling medicine to people to treat them in a life-long palliative manner.

And so few autoimune related issues either.

No 'scientific' total health outcome studies comparing vaxxed vs. unvaxxed somehow.  Much to difficult I guess.  Hey, here's a very recent article I'd not seen:

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/2016-health-study-on-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-children-pulled-from-publication-after-it-found-vaxxed-kids-more-likely-to-get-autism_122016

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Maybe, but factual to the point of proof as in the scientific journal article that was “unpublished” after vaccine acolytes raised all sorts of hell about it and the study’s results proving that
Vaccinated children were significantly less likely than the unvaccinated to have been diagnosed with chickenpox and pertussis, but significantly more likely to have been diagnosed with pneumonia, otitis media, allergies and NDDs (defined as Autism Spectrum Disorder, Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, and/or a learning disability)."

So you can choose for your kids between the possibility of getting a mild rash (or, to be fair, vicious cough for some weeks) and life-long immunity, or possibly being converted into a life-long retard or life-long consumer of expensive pharma offerings to help with the misery of not being able to breath half the time.  Your choice.*

(*)not applicable in the state of California.

sr. member
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December 09, 2016, 02:41:36 PM
#94
Whether they are effective or not or can cause some side effects or not, I fully agree that the government should not be imposing vaccines but give people that choice to take them or not. The reason why we have imposition is because one person should not be spreading any disease but if the vaccines are effective why be afraid?
Before, no one was afraid of vaccination. Now launched a campaign to discredit vaccination. Maybe it's someone who needs it? Someone provokes a weakening of the immune system of people.

and this is a very interesting idea. Maybe you're right and now there is a specially hidden genocide. Government is not very profitable to have so many people.
Unfortunately the people themselves accept these rules of the game and not leave yourself a chance at life. Besides, the government is to blame it will be impossible, because people are taking such a decision.

yes, the decision will be made by people. But the motivation for this decision will be imposed due to the government's opinion. The government will simply create the conditions, and the people themselves will do everything
I am sure that this situation will lead to casualties. However, do people choose their own destiny. It's their decision. Only I don't want them got sick and infected me and my children.
newbie
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December 09, 2016, 01:43:52 PM
#93
Vaccinia is an acute infectious disease caused by vaccination. Vaccination is the inoculation of child or adult, well or sick, with septic matter (pus) derived from suppurating (festering) sores on the abdomen of a previously infected cow. I think this definition is incomplete in an important respect—I should have said that it is a criminal operation.

The disease dates from about the year 1774 when an ignorant and superstitious English farmer, Benjamin Jesty, vaccinated his wife and three children with matter taken from sores on cows suffering with cow-pox," using a darning needle with which to make the incisions. Jesty believed a superstition, then prevalent among the milk-maids, that, one who had had cowpox was immune to small-pox.

Notes of this daring experiment were made by a doctor Nash who died in 1785. At his death these notes passed into the hands of Mr. Thomas Nash who was acquainted with Edward Jenner, a notorious charlatan, who is credited with having "discovered" vaccination. In 1789 Jenner inoculated his eighteen month’s old son with swine-pox matter. He followed this with other inoculations of other children and the filthy practice of vaccination was definitely launched.

An English writer, Arthur Wollaston Hutton, M. A., says of Jenner’s framing and qualifications: "But his professional acquirements were but slender; his medical degree was the outcome of no examination or scientific work, but merely of a fee of fifteen guineas paid to the University of St. Andrews; while his other and more important distinction, his Fellowship in the Royal Society, was obtained by what even Dr. Norman Moore, his latest biographer and apologist, is constrained to admit was little else than a fraud."

Thus we have a filthy practice, born out of the ignorance and superstition of the past and fathered by an ignorant imposter and fraud, palmed off on the world today as a scientific procedure. It is really remarkable, the number of instances in the history of medicine, of practices and theories now in vogue, that owe their origin to ancient customs, traditions and superstitions.

It is not known how remote was the belief among the cow hands and dairy maids of England in the immunizing potency of cow-pox; but it is thought to have come out of the practice of inoculation which was introduced into England from the East, by Lady Mary Wortley Montague, wife of the British Ambassador to the Ottoman Court, in 1717. The practice was abolished by act of Parliament in 1840, due to its evils. In 1754 the Royal College of Physicians issued the following manifesto, which reads strangely like the statements made by physicians today about vaccination:

‘The College, having been informed that false reports concerning the success of inoculation in England have been published in foreign countries, think proper to declare their sentiments in the following manner, viz.: That the arguments which at the commencement of this practice were urged against it have been refuted by experience, that it is now held by the English in greater esteem, and practiced among them more extensively than ever it was before, and that the college thinks it to be highly salutary to the human race."

I mentioned that the inoculation practice was introduced from the east. The date of the origin of this superstitious practice is hidden in the darkness of pre-history. Savage and barbaric peoples, in various parts of the world, practiced inoculation. It is thought to have started in India. where so many of our superstitions originated, and spread from there to Africa and Europe.

See more: http://www.whale.to/vaccines/shelton3.html
full member
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December 09, 2016, 01:07:58 PM
#92
Whether they are effective or not or can cause some side effects or not, I fully agree that the government should not be imposing vaccines but give people that choice to take them or not. The reason why we have imposition is because one person should not be spreading any disease but if the vaccines are effective why be afraid?
Before, no one was afraid of vaccination. Now launched a campaign to discredit vaccination. Maybe it's someone who needs it? Someone provokes a weakening of the immune system of people.

and this is a very interesting idea. Maybe you're right and now there is a specially hidden genocide. Government is not very profitable to have so many people.
Unfortunately the people themselves accept these rules of the game and not leave yourself a chance at life. Besides, the government is to blame it will be impossible, because people are taking such a decision.

yes, the decision will be made by people. But the motivation for this decision will be imposed due to the government's opinion. The government will simply create the conditions, and the people themselves will do everything
legendary
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December 09, 2016, 12:25:32 PM
#91

Whether they are effective or not or can cause some side effects or not, I fully agree that the government should not be imposing vaccines but give people that choice to take them or not. The reason why we have imposition is because one person should not be spreading any disease but if the vaccines are effective why be afraid?

Before, no one was afraid of vaccination. Now launched a campaign to discredit vaccination. Maybe it's someone who needs it? Someone provokes a weakening of the immune system of people.

and this is a very interesting idea. Maybe you're right and now there is a specially hidden genocide. Government is not very profitable to have so many people.

For those who are unaware, there is nothing particularly new about the leadership class being highly interested in injecting their peeps, the peeps sensing a problem, and tensions coming to a head:

http://www.vaccinationinformationnetwork.com/revolts-and-opposition-against-compulsory-smallpox-vaccination/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_Revolt

The more things change, the more they remain the same.

sr. member
Activity: 287
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December 09, 2016, 12:07:23 PM
#90
Whether they are effective or not or can cause some side effects or not, I fully agree that the government should not be imposing vaccines but give people that choice to take them or not. The reason why we have imposition is because one person should not be spreading any disease but if the vaccines are effective why be afraid?
Before, no one was afraid of vaccination. Now launched a campaign to discredit vaccination. Maybe it's someone who needs it? Someone provokes a weakening of the immune system of people.

and this is a very interesting idea. Maybe you're right and now there is a specially hidden genocide. Government is not very profitable to have so many people.
Unfortunately the people themselves accept these rules of the game and not leave yourself a chance at life. Besides, the government is to blame it will be impossible, because people are taking such a decision.
full member
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Merit: 100
December 09, 2016, 12:01:26 PM
#89
Whether they are effective or not or can cause some side effects or not, I fully agree that the government should not be imposing vaccines but give people that choice to take them or not. The reason why we have imposition is because one person should not be spreading any disease but if the vaccines are effective why be afraid?
Before, no one was afraid of vaccination. Now launched a campaign to discredit vaccination. Maybe it's someone who needs it? Someone provokes a weakening of the immune system of people.

and this is a very interesting idea. Maybe you're right and now there is a specially hidden genocide. Government is not very profitable to have so many people.
legendary
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Merit: 1283
December 09, 2016, 12:00:01 PM
#88

Whether they are effective or not or can cause some side effects or not, I fully agree that the government should not be imposing vaccines but give people that choice to take them or not. The reason why we have imposition is because one person should not be spreading any disease but if the vaccines are effective why be afraid?

A better question is, 'if vaccines are safe, why the need for liability immunity for the pharma companies who make them?'

It's worse than just that these companies make them.  They also do most of the research as well.  Supposedly entities like the CDC look over the research, but for all intents and purposes the pharma industry owns the CDC.  Personnel at the CDC do their time in 'public service' then walk right through the revolving door to make real money in the 'private sector'...as long as they play ball.  Look at the head of CDC under Bush, Julie Gerberding; she went straight on to become president of Merck’s Vaccine division.

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