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hero member
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December 09, 2016, 12:58:52 PM
#87
What is the dispute? There are vaccines that help fight diseases. Is the opinion of the other side, doing nothing.I understand that so the dispute is not conducted. To cancel you need something to offer in return.

Exactly! That's not enough to say let's not do it and then die from diseases. If there was a way to avoid vaccines but to stay healthy in the same time I'd vote for that, but all the alternatives are not effective so far.
The effect of cancer treatment is also not 100%. So not to treat? Religion offers an alternative treatment is prayer. Is it a method? I believe that until will not be more effective way you need to use something that is.

As I said before, vaccines are not as bad as some people assume they are. Most kids need them and while nothing better is invented we shouldn't oppose vaccination, kids deserve to be in a good health.
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December 09, 2016, 11:01:41 AM
#86
Whether they are effective or not or can cause some side effects or not, I fully agree that the government should not be imposing vaccines but give people that choice to take them or not. The reason why we have imposition is because one person should not be spreading any disease but if the vaccines are effective why be afraid?
Before, no one was afraid of vaccination. Now launched a campaign to discredit vaccination. Maybe it's someone who needs it? Someone provokes a weakening of the immune system of people.
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December 09, 2016, 10:56:48 AM
#85
Whether they are effective or not or can cause some side effects or not, I fully agree that the government should not be imposing vaccines but give people that choice to take them or not. The reason why we have imposition is because one person should not be spreading any disease but if the vaccines are effective why be afraid?
sr. member
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December 09, 2016, 10:52:51 AM
#84
What is the dispute? There are vaccines that help fight diseases. Is the opinion of the other side, doing nothing.I understand that so the dispute is not conducted. To cancel you need something to offer in return.

Exactly! That's not enough to say let's not do it and then die from diseases. If there was a way to avoid vaccines but to stay healthy in the same time I'd vote for that, but all the alternatives are not effective so far.
The effect of cancer treatment is also not 100%. So not to treat? Religion offers an alternative treatment is prayer. Is it a method? I believe that until will not be more effective way you need to use something that is.
legendary
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December 09, 2016, 10:42:59 AM
#83
What is the dispute? There are vaccines that help fight diseases. Is the opinion of the other side, doing nothing.I understand that so the dispute is not conducted. To cancel you need something to offer in return.

Exactly! That's not enough to say let's not do it and then die from diseases. If there was a way to avoid vaccines but to stay healthy in the same time I'd vote for that, but all the alternatives are not effective so far.
sr. member
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December 09, 2016, 09:24:56 AM
#82
Medicine and especially drugs and vaccines played no part in the fall in Scurvy death rates and the same can be seen for other diseases. Scurvy is a condition caused by a lack of vitamin C. Poor nutrition, particularly a lack of fresh fruit and vegetables, can result in Scurvy.  Mortality rates fell dramatically as living conditions improved.

Typhoid and Scarlet Fever vanished without vaccines but with clean water, better nutrition, sanitation and living conditions.

This graph demonstrates that the administration of tetanus vaccine is likely to be pointless and puts children especially at risk of adverse reactions to the vaccines.

There is only one respect in which modern medicine could have had an indirect effect.  This came with the social reforms of 1947-48 which saw the introduction of the National Health Service.  Coupled with this was the start of the reduction in numbers of farm workers with the start of increased mechanisation and industrial scale farming in Britain after the 1939-1945 World War.  The numbers of farm labourers fell by half post war and the increase in mechanisation also reduced the chances of the injuries which were likely to result in tetanus

Fewer agricultural workers coupled with better access to healthcare would result in better treatment of wounds.  Tetanus thrives in deep wounds which are not properly cleansed.  So by having fewer agricultural workers and better wound care could reduce the incidence of tetanus cases.  So if the reduction in tetanus mortality in the 1950s is anything other than part of the continuing decline with better standards of living, those two reasons are the most likely explanations.

see more: https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/

Only a Russian can bear such nonsense. Ditch agriculture to defeat tetanus. A good way of dealing with the disease. The following method will wipe out the population to avoid epidemics.
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December 09, 2016, 08:42:48 AM
#81
Medicine and especially drugs and vaccines played no part in the fall in Scurvy death rates and the same can be seen for other diseases. Scurvy is a condition caused by a lack of vitamin C. Poor nutrition, particularly a lack of fresh fruit and vegetables, can result in Scurvy.  Mortality rates fell dramatically as living conditions improved.

Typhoid and Scarlet Fever vanished without vaccines but with clean water, better nutrition, sanitation and living conditions.

This graph demonstrates that the administration of tetanus vaccine is likely to be pointless and puts children especially at risk of adverse reactions to the vaccines.

There is only one respect in which modern medicine could have had an indirect effect.  This came with the social reforms of 1947-48 which saw the introduction of the National Health Service.  Coupled with this was the start of the reduction in numbers of farm workers with the start of increased mechanisation and industrial scale farming in Britain after the 1939-1945 World War.  The numbers of farm labourers fell by half post war and the increase in mechanisation also reduced the chances of the injuries which were likely to result in tetanus

Fewer agricultural workers coupled with better access to healthcare would result in better treatment of wounds.  Tetanus thrives in deep wounds which are not properly cleansed.  So by having fewer agricultural workers and better wound care could reduce the incidence of tetanus cases.  So if the reduction in tetanus mortality in the 1950s is anything other than part of the continuing decline with better standards of living, those two reasons are the most likely explanations.

see more: https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/
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December 09, 2016, 07:14:17 AM
#80
What is the dispute? There are vaccines that help fight diseases. Is the opinion of the other side, doing nothing.I understand that so the dispute is not conducted. To cancel you need something to offer in return.
hero member
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December 09, 2016, 05:36:49 AM
#79
If they are our vaccines, then they are yours too.

There is no such thing as "our".
sr. member
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December 09, 2016, 04:35:30 AM
#78
If they are our vaccines, then they are yours too.
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December 09, 2016, 03:16:12 AM
#77
Many diseases disappeared without vaccination. Sanitation is the key.

You bet it is. Facts dont lie. People do.

Leonardo da Vinci survived in the middle of the black death plagued in Vienna. Why? because he washed himself? propably. But mostly its many factors involved, the one that he was a gay as well. Being gay made him not use the services of whores. And whores had fleas for sure. He could afford to eat well, and stay indoors not in the seweged streets of Vienna. Did he vaccinated himself?

What modern medical science at that times had to say of a way not be diseased? It said not to wash yourself. Becuase the layer of dirt was suppose to block the morrow wind. Current medicine says you need to poison your children. Do it at your own peril mmmmk?

In the middle of the black death epidemics, there were consevative countries like Poland, that didnt believe some plague doctors not to wash yourself. In poland herbs had a widespread usage, and we were clean people at that times. What was the results? No black death plague. Single casualties only. Did they vaccinated?

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Vaccines defeated so many deadly diseases, it's a nonsense to come back.

test on IQ. Why does the ones that vaccinated fear the unvaccinated. Do they fear that vaccination dont work? Or those fuckers wants some scapegoating practices made.

P.S and no we are not conservative now anymore. Vaccination is a must here. Its horrible really. Why cant people take minimal risk? Its not like I will disease the vaccinated ones. Its illogical. 10 people out of 100 wont cause the plague. Leave us alone will you? You can even eat your children for all I care. Just leave the ones that dont want vaccination alone ok?
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December 08, 2016, 08:49:51 PM
#76
I do not believe that vaccination is evil. She had saved a lot of people from various terrible diseases. Without vaccination mankind would have died from the dreaded disease

They're not evil sionce they stop the spreading of diseases that could wipe out a big chunk of humanity, on the other hand, by vaccinating we're preventing the natural selection and we're allowing weak ones to reproduce more weak humans, therefore in one hand vaccines are good and on the other hand they are bad since they're leading to overpopulation of the Earth.

lol, what you said is so wrong. Firstly, natural selection has nothing to do with weak humans. You probably got C- in grade 11 biology, so you think you understand Darwinistic ideologies. Vaccines are outdated, new ways to prevent disease should become available. Something more efficient and less hassle.

Survival of the fittest, why do you think that in our case girls prefer more muscular guys over some twigs? Yeah, and Earth is overpopulated and soon to be dry of sources, new planet to live on should be available.
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December 08, 2016, 08:32:33 PM
#75
Many diseases disappeared without vaccination. Sanitation is the key.
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December 08, 2016, 08:04:20 PM
#74
I do not believe that vaccination is evil. She had saved a lot of people from various terrible diseases. Without vaccination mankind would have died from the dreaded disease

They're not evil sionce they stop the spreading of diseases that could wipe out a big chunk of humanity, on the other hand, by vaccinating we're preventing the natural selection and we're allowing weak ones to reproduce more weak humans, therefore in one hand vaccines are good and on the other hand they are bad since they're leading to overpopulation of the Earth.

lol, what you said is so wrong. Firstly, natural selection has nothing to do with weak humans. You probably got C- in grade 11 biology, so you think you understand Darwinistic ideologies. Vaccines are outdated, new ways to prevent disease should become available. Something more efficient and less hassle.
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December 08, 2016, 07:59:42 PM
#73
I do not believe that vaccination is evil. She had saved a lot of people from various terrible diseases. Without vaccination mankind would have died from the dreaded disease

They're not evil sionce they stop the spreading of diseases that could wipe out a big chunk of humanity, on the other hand, by vaccinating we're preventing the natural selection and we're allowing weak ones to reproduce more weak humans, therefore in one hand vaccines are good and on the other hand they are bad since they're leading to overpopulation of the Earth.
sr. member
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December 08, 2016, 04:11:49 PM
#72
I do not believe that vaccination is evil. She had saved a lot of people from various terrible diseases. Without vaccination mankind would have died from the dreaded disease
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December 08, 2016, 03:00:23 PM
#71
If not the way things are turning out now, Vaccines have turned out to be effective in combating some life threatening diseases after years of extensive research and this has gone a long way in reducing needless death. Over here probably because of the level of advancement in technology still at the low stage we still rely on vaccine a lot. You see pregnant women vaccinated to protect their unborn babies at the same time after birth vaccinated to protect the baby and this has made WHO declared our country POLIO free in 2014. This is an achievement that cannot be faulted in any way...

+1

Vaccines defeated so many deadly diseases, it's a nonsense to come back.
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December 08, 2016, 02:58:05 PM
#70
read the title and agreed, read your post and agreed too. i'll no support vaccines anymore
legendary
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December 08, 2016, 02:05:00 PM
#69



I heard stories that the epidemic in Africa was a plan, made to poison the people there. I heard there were sprays from the sky and in the food that had poison in them, which is why they were so sick...


I am African and in my country I did not hear anything about it. But it may be possible. We always have to be careful about the millionaires who are going to poor countries to "donate" because they always have something evil in mind.

This is indeed correct. AIDS was created to sterilize the blacks and indigenous populations of the world.

 Shocked Shocked

What makes you think so?
legendary
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December 08, 2016, 01:30:15 PM
#68
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On the other hand, unless you overvaccinate an infant and those fuckers do, vaccines are almost harmless, but completly unnecessary. There are some rare cases where taking a vaccine would be beneficial, but give me a break with that prevention from the disease. Its a lie to scare people and leave their money to Rotschilds.

If one has been bitten by a rabid animal it makes sense to use rabies vaccine.  One has a very high odds of getting the disease and the disease has a very high mortality (100%).  It's a particularly unpleasant death as well.

There are other cases where vaccination works and makes sense.  The big problem is that the ability to properly use risk/reward decision making is completely broken in our world of pseudo-science, propaganda, and crony economics.  One doesn't need to dig very deep into this issue to see that some weird stuff is going on, but what exactly it is isn't very clear.

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