Topic: Fuck your vaccines - page 11. (Read 10229 times)

Vaccination in itself is not bad, because vaccination is made so our immune system can battle more diseases later in our life. But as the author mentioned that there is something fishy in the vaccines, as if a new substance was present in the vaccine that is not related to fighting disease. If this is true then this is very alarming, but the author needs some substantial evidence and ground so he can file a case or can oppose the governments movement on vaccination.

Vaccinated children have up to 500% more disease than unvaccinated children

http://www.naturalnews.com/036220_vaccinated_children_disease_allergies.html

Then you wait until the kids are old enough to make their own rational decisions.

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Wikipedia is not an all knowing, all wise source. Even then, my argument is not about the effectiveness of vaccines, at all.


This is indeed correct. AIDS was created to sterilize the blacks and indigenous populations of the world.

absolutely, there are a few nice caves around there I believe, where those can go.

There is danger in vaccines because some with imminence power can do things about. But Vaccines do do what they are intended for and when you don't vaccinate your children, you are putting others in danger.

If someone offers me a choice between a two-hour bout of mild allergy, and a severe infection of measles or diphtheria, then I would select the former any time of the day. Those who don't want to get vaccinated can stay that way. But they should avoid contact with the general population, as they are a health risk to the rest of us.

You can't just generalize like that, some substances of the vaccines can cause to some people a problem, just like allergies.

Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o65l1YAVaYc

Vaxxed: From Cover-Up to Catastrophe (2016)

https://torrentz2.eu/search?f=vaxxed

Seems that in the case of whooping cough, for instance, being vaccinated can turn one into a permanent asymptomatic carrier of the wild strain.  And therefore should go live on a desert island for the benefit of the rest of us.

Mumps is another interesting case.  Get this no-big-deal bug as a child as I did and you have life-long immunity.  Get vaccinated (which is less and less effective requiring Merck to engage in outright fraud in order to maintain their monopoly on MMR) and you get mumps after puberty when it can cause infertility in males.  Search 'mumps outbreak university'.

Of course infertility among the peeps is not at all a bad thing to many in leadership positions (like our current science czar, Holdren, under Obama.)

Bottom line is, you're putting others at risk by turning yourself into an incubator and carrier by not vaccinating yourself.  This seems like yet another one of those things where hardcore libertarians somehow think they can still live and function within a society but only give a shit about themselves.  Sorry, but it doesn't work like that.  Go live in a cave somewhere or find a deserted island if you're that desperate to remove yourself from the rest of civilisation.  You don't get to take all the benefits but none of the accompanying responsibility. 

But I suppose you couldn't remove yourself from society, because you'll still be expecting a doctor to cure you when you manage to infect yourself with the plague or some horrific ailment that could have easily been avoided.   

I do believe that some kinds of vaccines can be 'effective' (and to a lesser degree 'safe') in certain situations such as a pandemic or biological warfare environment.  In such situations the risk/reward ratio is well outside the norm.  In 'normal' circumstances it makes little sense to me to vaccinate for non-problems when a vaccination regime could be implemented if/when needed.

One of the justifications for giving vaccine manufacturers immunity in the legal system was that they would then maintain production capacity to a point where it could conceivably meet unusual challenges as above described.

If should have been anticipated that they would use their own legal immunity to make tons of money with which to capture the regulatory system.  When they did just that, it should have been the case that the abuse was ended.  Clearly this has not happened either, and I attributed it to being the case that the same parties who implemented the regulatory capture (by buying/intimidating politicians) have done the same with many other sectors including, most importantly, academia and the press.

Another factor which I'm increasingly convinced is involved is outlined in the following quote.  I've not yet transcribed it to this particular thread.  For well over a century since science came into it's own, a class of elites have recognized the utility of biology, endocrinology, etc.  Just as a people can change their leadership, the leadership can change their people:


Another formation of the quote an others from the author who was in the upper ranks of elite philosophy at his time:  http://www.whale.to/b/russell_h.html  I think it more than fair to suspect that Russell's ideas were in part a transcript of the programs underway by his peers and also formed at least a rough map which has been followed since by the same.

Vaccines have been based on medical fraud for over a hundred years


The concept of vaccinating to immunize began in 1796, when British apothecary (pharmacist) Edward Jenner inserted cowpox pus under the skin of an eight year old boy. Jenner based his experiment on an unsubstantiated rumor that anyone who had experienced cowpox would be immune to smallpox.

England's incidents of smallpox after vaccination rose steadily from five percent in the beginning to 95% by 1895. There was even a serious epidemic around 1872, one year after smallpox vaccinations were decreed mandatory in the UK. The mortality rate among smallpox victims also shot up five fold around that time.

Despite intelligent protests with obvious facts and figures disproving efficacy, and proving harm from toxic materials and viruses contained in vaccines that endanger natural immunity, the inoculation for immunization premise has been maintained.

Protecting the industry against truth by attacking reasonable dissenters viciously has resulted in vaccine industry revenue of $17 billion annually today. This doesn't include revenue from doctors' visits for vaccinations and resulting ill health from them.

The vaccinators' tactics of suppressing scientific data from concerned professionals has become more mafia like. Sincere medical professionals who register health concerns over vaccines are severely punished and slandered by the medical mafia owned mainstream media.


http://www.naturalnews.com/035715_vaccines_history_fraud.html#ixzz25WOWKVBT

That's the whole point. No one is saying that the vaccines are 100% risk-free. There may be a few hundred deaths and complications from vaccine usage every year. But when you compare that to the millions of deaths, which were avoided as a result of vaccination, this figure seems minuscule.

No, maybe it should be selective, just like drugs should be legal and thus the natural selection occurs in it's modern way. lol

Even if it was true, let's say that, that's the only one case? Yes, let's risk the epidemic because one person got goofd from vaccine.. yeah, sure.

guillain barre syndrome in Greece after vaccinated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2i4GckcvB4

I will want to disagree with you that no one should be forced to use medical treatment. I don't know what is applicable over there but over here government should even do more to jail parents who refuse to allow their children be vaccinated against some permanent disease especially polio because they end up turning into social menace begging on the street because of no fault of theirs. This issue I am talking about is a fundamental one over here and its painful to see talents waste away because of parent disobedience.

That was the Russia spreading the propaganda around to destroy the influence of US during the cold war mostly.

The only thing that can stop the diseases in Africa is purifying the whole continent with fire, juat burn it all down. Well major reasons why that didnt happen, the diseass stopping, was because of the poverty, still tribes there,etc...

Which epidemic are you talking about? Small-pox was eradicated from Africa with the help of vaccination. Polio has been almost eradicated using similar means. Ebola and HIV are serious threats, but that is because vaccines are yet to be developed for those diseases.