Topic: Fuck your vaccines - page 7. (Read 10229 times)

I personally feel it quite possible that a certain few people 'at the top' know with precision that injections are useful for some pretty nasty population effects and are deploying them for exactly that reason here and there and from time to time.  'Vaccination' is simply the most convenient way to justify injecting things into people's bloodstreams and thus bypassing the digestive tract which simplifies things.

I personally bought the standard story about 'safe and effective' hook, line, and sinker for most of my life.  I don't remember if I ever exhibited my wisdom by explaining 'herd immunity' to anyone but it wouldn't surprise me if I had.

Later, for reasons I don't remember, I looked into things a bit more deeply and tried to study the actual science behind things in more detail.  As the years tick by, more and more doctors (or former doctors) come out of the closet and give very detailed presentations on various aspects of what they know.  I must have a hundred such presentations.  These were very helpful to me.

Like almost all of these doctors do, I mostly wrote off the malfeasance to innocent mistakes, cronyism, corporate greed, etc.  Over time I've come to take the concept that we peeps are being deliberately damaged for a deeper goal than simply making a buck or pinching pennies in safety precautions in order for our benevolent leadership to 'serve' more people.  One of the things which has influenced me to this line of thinking is that the real movers and shakers from earlier times wrote pretty freely about doing so.

Another reason for my suspicions is that the concept of damaging people to make them more manageable actually makes a lot of sense, and can even be justified on ethical grounds if one has a bit of a fucked up mind and/or a quasi-religious mindset which lends itself to considering humans as a kind of a blight on Mother Earth.  A surprising number of highly intelligent people seem to fall into one or more of these camps.

Yeah sorry to my prelegent for my lack of knowledge, as I thought that adjuvant has as well a preservative function. Good distinction here. Yes. Ive ment that mercury is used for vaccine not to get spoiled. And its not because the angels of vaccines are so unselfish. They want their cheap vaccines to be even more cheap.

Im the last guy who can say that little mercury here and there is a killing blow. But ffs. They vaccinate infants and they dont even know whats inside most of the time. Adjuvants and preservatives may vary from vaccine to vaccine depending on a manufacturer. If you think that picking unlucky infant that have the cheapest dose of vaccines is ok... i rest my case.

I think its some war of rich and informed against the poor and uninformed. They think they do good to humanity that way.

And an IQ test. Which of the vaccines would a corrupt government buy? Those cheap or those less harmful? Someone will buy those cheap vaccines. Propably some more corrupted and poorer countries.

P.s and if you think that people dont do silly things just because they are under pressure to profit. You are wrong.

It's slime-ball who thinks that vaccines are causing negatives health effects and would NOT warn people about them.  Less competition for their own kids, more chance of collecting social security due to the earlier die-off of the chumps, and less people infecting the globe if the de-population death cult is your thing.

A person who bought the 'safe and effective' party line would have no reason to invent 'scare-stories'.  Just the opposite since they earnestly think they will benefit by 'herd immunity'.

Basically, the only people who would provide warnings are people who genuinely thinks there might be real issues and who have an decency instinct to look out for their fellow man.

I suppose there could be a mix here, and that I might be in that category.  People who are gullible enough to eat up the corp/gov/nwo vaccine propaganda will suffer injury to themselves and their progeny and thus be selected against over time.  This could contribute to the strength of our society.  Such people (e.g., modern 'progressives') are causing serious problems at the present time and we could do with fewer of them.  It's an honor and a duty to give those who should not be final-solution'd a chance to hear the other side and wise up though, else Darwinism can't work properly here.

As for the 'Muslim males', I doubt it.  Their task is to break down Western society which has been softened up by a variety of de-masculation programs over the years (including but not limited to vaccination regimes.)  Once that is mostly accomplished the leadership can go ahead and "Kill them.  Kill them both." to borrow a line from Raiders of the Lost Ark.

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Mercury is not used as an adjuvant.  It's uses as a preservative.  Most vaccines nowadays contain only a little left over from the manufacturing process, but multi-dose flu vaccines still use it as a preservatives and most of those who are stupid enough to take the flu vaccination get a healthy dose.

Funny thing about mercury:  A hundred years ago someone thought to wonder if it was safe.  To test it, they injected mercury into 12 people (iirc) who were dying of encephalitis.  They all died of encephalitis thus proving that mercury is safe.  And so it stood for most of a century.  Eventually (after a legislator's own grand-kid was damaged) it was taken out of most vaccines, but NOT because it caused any problems mind you.  Just to make 'uneducated' people feel better.

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Aluminum is the most common adjuvant at the present.  Vaccines which are problematic to get working contain more of it.  HPV is a good example of this.

Crushed glass as an adjuvant was tried in horses.  Turns out that it cause enough discomfort to the animal to have a bunch of crushed glass in their tissue that it was abandoned.

Another potential adjuvant is squalene which is an oil related to that which lubricates our joints.  It was found through experiments on ignorant and powerless army recruits (like me) that it might be causing joint problems and was a common complaint from those suffering from 'gulf war syndrome.'  I personally got a fuck-load of shots during gulf war and my joints are fine.  Either I am lucky and not prone to problems, or I lucked out and got in a control group.  Impossible to know about such things.  Anyway, I found it interesting that this year only injected flu vaccine is recommended and they are back to using squalene as an adjuvant for older victims.

I believe that vaccination is necessary. Mankind through vaccination get rid of many diseases. Are we again want to epidemics of terrible diseases? I think not

Bolded by me. No, this is objectively untrue. Vaccines have historically saved millions of people - the only people at risk are the very very rare individuals that have an allergic reaction to said vaccines. And vaccines still save far more people overall due to the danger of herd immunity being compromised.

I do agree that the state should force people to vaccinate their children, but in passive ways (such as denying families state benefits if they refuse, and forcing them to alert other parents if their own children are unvaccinated). I don't agree that criminal charges such as actual fines/prison should be applied because that is a bit authoritarian in my view, but I have no problem with the state denying benefits to unvaccinated families. If you don't like it, you can move to a country where it's not enforced.

as well we all know today that vaccines is what most people are living on today take good look at one of the most deadly sickness today HIV Aids to a large ways vaccines have been able to cut down in a way because it sub press the various  and here by making people to live today so vaccines is very important for people that needs it.

Are you kidding me. Do you know what adjuvant is? Maybe vaccines do not contain them but adjuvants are mainly that. Omg i cant believe you guys are so full of misinformation.

@doomad

Yeah yeah yeah darwin yeah yeah yeah if not vaxxines we would all be dead yeah yeah yeah selfish nonvaxxiners. Thats how you sound. Anything more to add? I really cant believe how one can have Darwin, unselfishness and vaccines in one coherent order. If you believe darwin was right you believe you are selfish and Darwin was telling about survival without the artificial help. I seriously cant believe if people are actually believing what they are writing.



@Tyrannt

No. Every non vaxxiners had a higher order from their supreme commander and know nothing about everything.


p.s if humanity believes that vacciners gaining millions and billions of dollars for free are pure unselfish angels and nonvacinera are a selfish bastards becuase simply they care and have 0 from it, all is lost. We as humanity may as well inject vaccines directly into the brain, it wont change anything.

This thread is indicative of the looming realisation that anti-vaxxers are losing the scientific argument, so they attempt to turn it into a moral freedom issue instead.  Whatever it takes to promote the warped notion that it's okay to be a selfish egomaniac, even if your choices have a negative impact on other people.  The good news is, Darwin is still the hardest working dead guy going, so if the anti-vaxxers want to willingly thin out their own numbers through sheer ignorance and selfishness, Darwinism will happily oblige.  Just try not to harm other people in the process by infecting them with something, or dying at the wheel and causing an accident or whatever.  The sooner you remove yourselves from the genepool, the better.  Try not to reproduce.  And don't force your idiocy on any offspring that are unfortunate enough to be brought into this world by you.

You are trying to harm people by spreading scare-stories against vaccination. None of the vaccines contain mercury or aluminium (at least those which are properly manufactured). You are no different from the ISIS terrorists, who claim that vaccination is a plot by the Western corporations to make Muslim males infertile.

Do you people actually know what vaccine does? Do you know why does in contain the viruses in itself? Can anyone, please, reply to me and explain how vaccines work? You can even google it if you want to.

http://sarahjmuma.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/mercury.jpg

While this is certainly true and horrible facts but you can't deny that vaccines have also tremendous positive effects as well.
You can't view every vaccine like it is some kind conspiracy medicine used to enslave or make you sick.

This is very alarming where vaccine which is supposed to be to prevent diseases and other illness are the one also which are not safe to used and caused more harm than prevention. Sadly, it is more on profit to the corporations who produced it, but it seems the subject are just like being experimented, they release without stringent test being made.

Aside from that theres a Flu vaccine that is being reported that caused also problems, the Dengue vaccine and hpv vaccine gardasil that has so much negative review.

Also, from memory, a short list of other goodies which are or have been known to have been along for the ride:

 - Tween-80 detergent which interferes with lipids helping the blood-brain barrier to do it's job.

 - SV-40 virus found in half of all cancers (polio vaccine.)

 - Pig viruses undetected until well after vaccine went into production and started to be injected into people (rotovirus vaccine.)

 - A wide variety of broken down cellular components from the culture medium (human and animal cell lines and tissues.)

 - mycoplasma species.

 - hCG (human chorionic gonadotropin) which was specifically developed to cause infertility in females and has been used covertly in tetanus vaccination programs from time to time.

If a doctor inject into your blood mercury, aluminum, msg and formaldehyde it is a criminal operation. But where is the police?

I rarely state things as 'fact' on purpose.  I did state as a given fact that sick people are economically advantageous for drug makers.  Feel free to argue the converse if you like.

As for your .gov association, I've mentioned several times that it's more likely that you are but a run-of-the-mill victim though I didn't rule out the possibility that you are a contractor or some such.

Since you seem to have a little bit of genuine interest in the topic, note that a healthy immune system needs to be active against 'self' in addition to the more commonly considered invaders and it's a tricky business.  Turbo-charging an immune system with activity stress and adjuvants is playing Russian-roulette with autoimmune problems.  The trouble is that to the extent that vaccines work at all, it is only because of adjuvants.

Furthermore, for 'ethical' reasons, the term 'work' is defined as the vaccines producing a certain level of titers.  The actual on-the-ground effectiveness at dealing with supposed diseases is a distant second.

The logical take-away is that due to the inevitable risks, vaccination should be used as sparingly as possible.  This means only for critical issues in under an honest and rational cost/benefit analysis.  What is happening under our current system where the pharma corporations have no fiscal liability and pretty much own the CDC (and most other branches of govt under our oligarchy here in the U.S.) is that we peeps are being over-vaccinated to an astonishing degree, and are almost certainly paying the price (literally and figuratively.)

More "facts" about vaccinations beside that you again believe that im a hillary supporter and a .gov employee?

Here are hard facts:

Information keeps coming out substantiating what a lot of us figured out a while ago.

http://www.naturalnews.com/2016-12-08-top-doctors-reveal-that-vaccines-can-trigger-autoimmunity-turning-our-immune-systems-against-us.html


Very profitable for the medical-industrial complex.  My guess is that you don't even hold any shares in any of these corporations but are rather a simple big-brother loving damaged minion who these people have worked hard to create.  Anyone who would support for president probably the most corrupt politician ever seen in the U.S. (Hillary Clinton) is almost certain to be a victim of the attack on one front or another.

Your side better get cracking on 'fake news' and peer-2-peer info sharing clamp-down because the end is near and the games are being figured out rapidly by those who can still think critically.

The funny part is depending on blog they state odds ranging from 1:1.000 to 1:100.000.

it won't either way. But their main argument is that 1:1.000.000 cases, some kid stays retarded because of the  vaccine. Hey, I'm alergic to bees, let's kill them all just because 1:100.000 people are alergic too.