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meaning that wearing mask will indeed people keep doing even this pandemic ends .
Usage of mask will continue and there will be more sales to it and that's why it's a good business.  Grin
so Vegas maybe just letting those Addicted gamblers be in favor and not the totality of the system .
They are the main factor of their business so they're giving the favor and most people from there don't really want to wear mask.
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Actually now we learn the importance of wearing mask and not only for keeping safe from Covid Virus infection but also for cleaner air we breath .
However, most of people wear cheap masks, that only protect from a direct contact of bacteria and human breathing pipes. Plus it is not recommended to wear mask for more than few hours; they should be changed regularly. And what people do? Put on a cheap mask and wear it for weeks.

You say that through mask people breath with a cleaner air? How can that be possible? Such masks should have built in charcoal air filter and be bulky. Put on a mask, come near smoky cars pipe and try to breath. Will you get a cleaner air?
Where are you getting this "it is not recommended to wear masks for more than few hours" thing. And if people are wearing cheap masks then maybe we should make the mask mandate even harsher and only applied to certain type of masks instead of removing the masks completely? Doesn't that make more sense, I mean you are saying that with mask mandate people are wearing cheap masks that doesn't help stop the spread, so the logical answer to that should not be removing the masks completely which makes zero sense because it still spreads the virus, it should be to have specific design of mask that does stop it completely if you ask me.

Plus, the doctors that help the corona virus ridden people are wearing masks for most of the day, they literally have their faces filled with mask shaped traces for wearing for long hours, but at least they are protecting themselves. There is ZERO arguments against mask that help stop the virus, ZERO.
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There are also concerns that current vaccines are less able to protect against the variant, although the latest PHE figures suggest two doses of either vaccine are still highly effective against hospitalization: 96% for Pfizer/BioNTech and 92% for Oxford/AstraZeneca.

In simple words: if vaccinated, even if you catch Delta, the chances of ending up in the hospital are extremely low.

I'm not saying we shouldn't care though. As I said in my earlier post: I don't think going to public places, including casinos, is a good idea these days, even if you are fully vaccinated. But, imo, we should avoid unnecessary panic by all means.
This is good news, the whole selling point of getting vaccinated is not that we are not going to get the virus, that will happen to everyone eventually, but the fact the vaccine helps you to fight the virus and reduces the intensity of the symptoms and helps us to avoid getting hospitalized, however if this continues and poor countries are unable to get the vaccine how long it will take until a new strain appears that is immune to the vaccine and it is even more aggressive?

This is something we can't know for sure about, and that's why people running public places, including the casinos in Vegas, should be very cautious these days. It's better to stay closed for some time more, and thus lose money, than be earning money and contributing in the spread of the infection at the same time.

But we should always remember that in a greater degree it all depends on us, regular people, than on public places owners. We can simply not be going there regardless of whether it's allowed or not.
That would be the best case scenario but it is doubtful it is going to happen, after all businesses are desperate to open again and they also want their clients to feel at ease which is why Las Vegas casinos are allowing people to not make use of masks anymore on their establishments as long as they have been vaccinated, I hope the worst case scenario of a new strain resistant to the virus does not happen because if it does then it is likely that we will go back to the lockdown phase and I think everyone is tired of it.
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Actually now we learn the importance of wearing mask and not only for keeping safe from Covid Virus infection but also for cleaner air we breath .

However, most of people wear cheap masks, that only protect from a direct contact of bacteria and human breathing pipes. Plus it is not recommended to wear mask for more than few hours; they should be changed regularly. And what people do? Put on a cheap mask and wear it for weeks.

You say that through mask people breath with a cleaner air? How can that be possible? Such masks should have built in charcoal air filter and be bulky. Put on a mask, come near smoky cars pipe and try to breath. Will you get a cleaner air?

It's a problem if we don't know how to use the mask properly, it should be a disposable mask, once you are done using it, you threw it. The reason why they are cheap is that it's disposable, but I can understand how people are struggling financially due to pandemic, but in big countries like the US, sure they will not do that, they are well educated and they understand the risk of reusing a disposable mask.

In the end, we still have to get vaccinated as that is our best protection against the virus.
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Actually now we learn the importance of wearing mask and not only for keeping safe from Covid Virus infection but also for cleaner air we breath .

However, most of people wear cheap masks, that only protect from a direct contact of bacteria and human breathing pipes. Plus it is not recommended to wear mask for more than few hours; they should be changed regularly. And what people do? Put on a cheap mask and wear it for weeks.

You say that through mask people breath with a cleaner air? How can that be possible? Such masks should have built in charcoal air filter and be bulky. Put on a mask, come near smoky cars pipe and try to breath. Will you get a cleaner air?
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Many people are already so used to wearing masks that even when the pandemic is over and all restrictions are lifted they will still wear a mask before going out. If someone had told me 10 years ago that we would all wear masks and keep a social distance I would have called him crazy.
Actually now we learn the importance of wearing mask and not only for keeping safe from Covid Virus infection but also for cleaner air we breath .

meaning that wearing mask will indeed people keep doing even this pandemic ends .

so Vegas maybe just letting those Addicted gamblers be in favor and not the totality of the system .
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What can you say about those who have had mild or even asymptomatic covid? How did this happen? I think it's due to natural immunity. As you know, most of the victims had a weakened immune system due to various chronic diseases. Therefore, relying on natural immunity if you are generally healthy is quite reasonable.

The mild and asymptomatic cases are rare now. Most of the new infections result from the mutant strain, and in almost all the cases the patients need hospitalization. Here in India, the death rate from Delta variant was calculated at 7% in one of the cities (and that too may be an undercount). For the original strain, the death rate was less than 1%. And the vast majority of those who died from Delta were those aged less than 45 years. It may still be possible for healthy young adults to rely on natural immunity. But there is a big risk of the infection getting worse if you don't seek treatment on time.

I have great doubts about such data - these statistics are as manipulative as possible, and depending on your goals, you can show completely different mortality rates of the virus. If I'm not mistaken in the first wave of the pandemic, Italy and Germany had a difference in mortality more than 10 times and this was due to the fact that in Italy if someone died of diabetes, but at the same time was infected, his death was recorded as death from coronavirus. In Germany, the coronavirus was indicated as a concomitant disease and diabetes was indicated as the cause of death.
Therefore, I do not think that, given the manipulativeness, we can trust this data. We must wait for more global ones that are difficult to fake - for example, excess mortality.
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I do feel like there is another reason for you guys to be vaccinated! You can actually experience normal casinos like before pandemic if you do wear the mask and follow the protocols.

Even if you are not going to casinos you be should be vaccinated in the first place, and even if you are fully vaccinated, you should be aware that the virus has mutated and you can infect your loved ones who are still not vaccinated until all your families are fully vaccinated you should still follow the protocol follow the health experts not what casinos operators are saying.
Yes, indeed. It is better to follow what the government suggest to us because by vaccinated, we can get more protection from the virus that has already mutated. If the virus mutated again, the pharmaceutical will give a new type of vaccine that will be stronger than the previous vaccine because they already have the basic formula. They can modify it to find the antivirus. Wearing a mask is a must in this situation, whether we want it or not because that can help us get the spreading of the virus out there.
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What can you say about those who have had mild or even asymptomatic covid? How did this happen? I think it's due to natural immunity. As you know, most of the victims had a weakened immune system due to various chronic diseases. Therefore, relying on natural immunity if you are generally healthy is quite reasonable.

The mild and asymptomatic cases are rare now. Most of the new infections result from the mutant strain, and in almost all the cases the patients need hospitalization. Here in India, the death rate from Delta variant was calculated at 7% in one of the cities (and that too may be an undercount). For the original strain, the death rate was less than 1%. And the vast majority of those who died from Delta were those aged less than 45 years. It may still be possible for healthy young adults to rely on natural immunity. But there is a big risk of the infection getting worse if you don't seek treatment on time.
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The same set of lies are being propagated again and again. Taking a vaccine doesn't weaken your immune system. On the other hand, it strengthens the immune system so that it can fight various infections. Natural immunity is a good option against non lethal viruses such as the ones that cause common cold and flu. But the COVID virus is more lethal, and you can't depend on natural immunity. Even for healthy people, some of the new strains have a mortality rate of >10% without medical treatment. So you need to rethink about it.

What can you say about those who have had mild or even asymptomatic covid? How did this happen? I think it's due to natural immunity. As you know, most of the victims had a weakened immune system due to various chronic diseases. Therefore, relying on natural immunity if you are generally healthy is quite reasonable.
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I do feel like there is another reason for you guys to be vaccinated! You can actually experience normal casinos like before pandemic if you do wear the mask and follow the protocols.



Even if you are not going to casinos you be should be vaccinated in the first place, and even if you are fully vaccinated, you should be aware that the virus has mutated and you can infect your loved ones who are still not vaccinated until all your families are fully vaccinated you should still follow the protocol follow the health experts not what casinos operators are saying.
Wearing a mask and social distancing are the most effective ways to avoid the virus, and vaccination doesn't guarantee you won't get infected if you don't follow health protocols.
because there are some who have been vaccinated but are still infected because they are proud not to wear masks too often without realizing it just to increase immunity, you should still wear masks and follow health protocols wherever you go to the casino or anywhere for the safety of yourself and your loved ones.
Casinos are places where people we don't know and won't know for sure have been vaccinated or not, it's best to stay alert and self-aware.
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From the point of view of Health, I respect the decision of each person to get vaccinated, I have not been vaccinated and I think I will not, based on the principle that the virus has side chains of HIV, it means that in small amounts they are injecting us with that more the virus, also from the scientific point of view, the real time for them to develop an efficient vaccine lasts around 5 years, and does not depend on the money of the sponsors, it depends on the degree of knowledge of the virus, no specialist knows even 50 % the virus, because each strain that comes out new the vaccine is not efficient, in fact, those who have been vaccinated only have an immunity of 33%, which, for me, is nothing.

Many people in Colombia were vaccinated, even with Pfizer, and they did not go out and take care of themselves with their masks but it gave them the virus and in a few days it killed them, so the vaccine unfortunately does not have the expected effect, although by News from the Television Channel Caracol a doctor said that those who were vaccinated had fewer options to get infected, so this is not a guarantee, therefore in casinos there must be very demanding prevention measures, even more than in hospitals because it is not known how many people are infected and they are only carriers.
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Many people are already so used to wearing masks that even when the pandemic is over and all restrictions are lifted they will still wear a mask before going out. If someone had told me 10 years ago that we would all wear masks and keep a social distance I would have called him crazy.
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You are absolutely right. It is still too little time before we can draw proper conclusions about the effectiveness of vaccines, so wearing a mask in public places is a very important measure to contain the spread of coronavirus. The more people understand this and comply with it, the better for all of us.

For most people who are really concern about their health,

putting those mask and shield still the best practice to lessen the chance of getting infected,

not because you are already vaccinated, still not being proven that you are free or you can't carry this and spread the virus with your love ones,

Still better to continue doing those safety protocols even you are already annoyed using it in your everyday life.
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I do feel like there is another reason for you guys to be vaccinated! You can actually experience normal casinos like before pandemic if you do wear the mask and follow the protocols.



Even if you are not going to casinos you be should be vaccinated in the first place, and even if you are fully vaccinated, you should be aware that the virus has mutated and you can infect your loved ones who are still not vaccinated until all your families are fully vaccinated you should still follow the protocol follow the health experts not what casinos operators are saying.
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Difficult story to me if you see the numbers exploding in Great Britain and the delta variant even killing people who were fully vaccinated, I think a certain level of caution is still important. The incidence in Great Britain is above 200 again, I think 216. Considering that Germany's is below 5, that's concerning difference if you ask me.


Well, that's not the case in Las Vegas (still). This place is known to be luxurious and free, they tend to legalise whatever means to attract more clients and visitors. Face shield, face masks and other Covid protective gear is no exemption, thus it will be a hindrance to a place considered escaping from reality.

Though there were reports of a handful of delta variant in that specific county, but I don't think Vegas is changing any health protocols soon.
Not, unless if out break happens.

Well, what I said was not meant to tell anyone here to be reckless. Indeed, I am convinced that most people pay attention to their own behavior, at least that counts for the people I know. You have an idiot here and there, but that's fine.

The threat is just that in places where alcohol, drugs and a lot of money are involved, the threat is higher that people don't pay attention. You can see that in England right now with the soccer games going on and all the pubs being open. It is no coincidence that there numbers are shooting through the roof, literally. The good news is that the death count is still very low. The bad news is that the death count always comes with a delay because you first have the infection and people start dying two, three, four weeks afterwards. That is the interesting part that needs to be watched in England now. Another good news is that the vaccination usually prevents people from dying, so at least everyone should try to be vaccinated before getting in touch with dozens or even hundreds of other people especially in closed rooms.

But there is also a whole different perspective and that is of course all the people who work in Vegas would fear to lose their jobs if Vegas forced to lock down the city. There is always pro contra, but there is no contra to cautious behavior Smiley
The reason why I think the Vegas government should change the chance of some people spared of using mask are because of the danger that may arise and as mv1986 said people who are alcohol, drugs etc can easily misbehavior and it won't be for the casino owners to wait till an out break happen as said by Oasisman
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Yes, it strengthens the immune system in our body. But before we got a strong immune system, a new immune from the vaccine needs to introduce itself to the old immune system in our body and there should be an impact that can happen to our body because the type of each immune is different. Our body will react with an unknown immune.

Maybe I can illustrate like this. We lived with 5 family members and we met a new friend and brought him to our house. If that person can introduce himself very well to other family members, all family members will welcome him. But if not, maybe one or more family members will have distances from him and need time before that person can blend with our family.

So related to the vaccine, it will need time before it can blend to the old immunity on ourselves and it might get an impact to us such as fever, dizziness, sleepy, chills. But if everything is okay and we do not have comorbid, that vaccine can blend perfectly in our body and protect us from the virus.

Your point is perfectly understandable. And this is one of the issues during vaccination. It takes 1-2 weeks for the vaccine to produce the antibodies within the body of the recipient. And the issue is that during this time the natural immunity may get weakened. The recipient may suffer from high fever, muscle spasms and other adverse reactions. If the recipient gets infected with COVID during this period, then his medical condition may get worsened. The only solution is to stay isolated for at least 7-8 days after receiving the vaccine (I don't know how practical this is, for blue collar workers).

Looks like you really know about the vaccine, thanks to you, you give me a little idea because I have not received my vaccine yet. I guess when we get injected with the vaccine, there are also briefing before and after on what to follow in order to be safe, so for a responsible person, if it says he has to stay at home  for a week, surely they'll follow.
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Yes, it strengthens the immune system in our body. But before we got a strong immune system, a new immune from the vaccine needs to introduce itself to the old immune system in our body and there should be an impact that can happen to our body because the type of each immune is different. Our body will react with an unknown immune.

Maybe I can illustrate like this. We lived with 5 family members and we met a new friend and brought him to our house. If that person can introduce himself very well to other family members, all family members will welcome him. But if not, maybe one or more family members will have distances from him and need time before that person can blend with our family.

So related to the vaccine, it will need time before it can blend to the old immunity on ourselves and it might get an impact to us such as fever, dizziness, sleepy, chills. But if everything is okay and we do not have comorbid, that vaccine can blend perfectly in our body and protect us from the virus.

Your point is perfectly understandable. And this is one of the issues during vaccination. It takes 1-2 weeks for the vaccine to produce the antibodies within the body of the recipient. And the issue is that during this time the natural immunity may get weakened. The recipient may suffer from high fever, muscle spasms and other adverse reactions. If the recipient gets infected with COVID during this period, then his medical condition may get worsened. The only solution is to stay isolated for at least 7-8 days after receiving the vaccine (I don't know how practical this is, for blue collar workers).
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So it seems, the effect almost the same as the other people from other countries. We need to be concerned about how we can increase immunity so that we can prevent the virus from attacking our body before and after we get vaccinated. I am sure if we can have a strong immune system, we do not have to worry about any virus. I heard that the vaccinated people can still spread the virus to others if they can not take care of their health because after they get the injection, their bodies will be weak. The other different viruses can also attack their body and if people around them do not have a good immune, they can get attacked.

The same set of lies are being propagated again and again. Taking a vaccine doesn't weaken your immune system. On the other hand, it strengthens the immune system so that it can fight various infections. Natural immunity is a good option against non lethal viruses such as the ones that cause common cold and flu. But the COVID virus is more lethal, and you can't depend on natural immunity. Even for healthy people, some of the new strains have a mortality rate of >10% without medical treatment. So you need to rethink about it.
Yes, it strengthens the immune system in our body. But before we got a strong immune system, a new immune from the vaccine needs to introduce itself to the old immune system in our body and there should be an impact that can happen to our body because the type of each immune is different. Our body will react with an unknown immune.

Maybe I can illustrate like this. We lived with 5 family members and we met a new friend and brought him to our house. If that person can introduce himself very well to other family members, all family members will welcome him. But if not, maybe one or more family members will have distances from him and need time before that person can blend with our family.

So related to the vaccine, it will need time before it can blend to the old immunity on ourselves and it might get an impact to us such as fever, dizziness, sleepy, chills. But if everything is okay and we do not have comorbid, that vaccine can blend perfectly in our body and protect us from the virus.
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So it seems, the effect almost the same as the other people from other countries. We need to be concerned about how we can increase immunity so that we can prevent the virus from attacking our body before and after we get vaccinated. I am sure if we can have a strong immune system, we do not have to worry about any virus. I heard that the vaccinated people can still spread the virus to others if they can not take care of their health because after they get the injection, their bodies will be weak. The other different viruses can also attack their body and if people around them do not have a good immune, they can get attacked.

The same set of lies are being propagated again and again. Taking a vaccine doesn't weaken your immune system. On the other hand, it strengthens the immune system so that it can fight various infections. Natural immunity is a good option against non lethal viruses such as the ones that cause common cold and flu. But the COVID virus is more lethal, and you can't depend on natural immunity. Even for healthy people, some of the new strains have a mortality rate of >10% without medical treatment. So you need to rethink about it.
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