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Too much controversy and issues with Sinovac. Those irregularities also happened on other brands and during their early trials, it's expected to have some issues but as time is progressing, they are developing a much more good brand.

I was vaccinated fully with Sinovac just a few weeks ago as it was required to my office but it doesn't mean I will now trust my future to the vaccine. I didn't feel anything until now and even willing to undergo a yearly boost of the same vaccine.

Even you are vaccinated with Pfizer, Moderna, or any top brands over Sinovac, it depends on your body how to react to it.
I will say the same as you because as long as our body has a good immune system, that vaccine can help increase our immune to better. But no matter what the vaccine, after we got vaccinated, we still need to be careful because after vaccination, our body can get side effects that will be different from the other people.

I am not yet vaccinated and still waiting for the queue that I do not know when they call. But what I heard from people who already vaccinated, some of them feel sleepy but there is no significant effect. Some of my friends say they do not believe in the vaccine and do not want to get the vaccine. But if I get called for vaccination, I will come to the hospital and am ready for that. After I am vaccinated, I will not go to the crowd for at least 2 weeks to make sure that I am okay.
Quite a few side effects can occur such as elevated body temperature during the first few days of vaccination and besides such symptoms, the vaccinated site will also swell, these are the cases I see in my country. The effect and immunity are also not perfect and sometimes vaccinated people become the mediators of the spread, considering the conjecture associated with such news, it is risky to encourage individuals not to wear masks, wearing a mask can be uncomfortable in communication but it is our protection and awareness with others
So it seems, the effect almost the same as the other people from other countries. We need to be concerned about how we can increase immunity so that we can prevent the virus from attacking our body before and after we get vaccinated. I am sure if we can have a strong immune system, we do not have to worry about any virus. I heard that the vaccinated people can still spread the virus to others if they can not take care of their health because after they get the injection, their bodies will be weak. The other different viruses can also attack their body and if people around them do not have a good immune, they can get attacked.
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Difficult story to me if you see the numbers exploding in Great Britain and the delta variant even killing people who were fully vaccinated, I think a certain level of caution is still important. The incidence in Great Britain is above 200 again, I think 216. Considering that Germany's is below 5, that's concerning difference if you ask me.


Well, that's not the case in Las Vegas (still). This place is known to be luxurious and free, they tend to legalise whatever means to attract more clients and visitors. Face shield, face masks and other Covid protective gear is no exemption, thus it will be a hindrance to a place considered escaping from reality.

Though there were reports of a handful of delta variant in that specific county, but I don't think Vegas is changing any health protocols soon.
Not, unless if out break happens.

Well, what I said was not meant to tell anyone here to be reckless. Indeed, I am convinced that most people pay attention to their own behavior, at least that counts for the people I know. You have an idiot here and there, but that's fine.

The threat is just that in places where alcohol, drugs and a lot of money are involved, the threat is higher that people don't pay attention. You can see that in England right now with the soccer games going on and all the pubs being open. It is no coincidence that there numbers are shooting through the roof, literally. The good news is that the death count is still very low. The bad news is that the death count always comes with a delay because you first have the infection and people start dying two, three, four weeks afterwards. That is the interesting part that needs to be watched in England now. Another good news is that the vaccination usually prevents people from dying, so at least everyone should try to be vaccinated before getting in touch with dozens or even hundreds of other people especially in closed rooms.

But there is also a whole different perspective and that is of course all the people who work in Vegas would fear to lose their jobs if Vegas forced to lock down the city. There is always pro contra, but there is no contra to cautious behavior Smiley
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If those vaccinated people are also dying even if they're fully vaccinated, that's scary to think that there's a need to manufacture a better vaccine that has to be manufactured and made a case study as soon as possible.
Well vaccines are not a guarantee that you're free to become infected of the virus, its just a protection. Thus it depends on us if we're going to act as if there's no virus existing anymore or still follow the standard precautions.

Anyway its a good news that vaccinated citizen can already play in the physical casinos in Nevada however its still best to be cautious to not risk ourselves.

From the looks of it, many establishments all around the world are giving some bonus items or services to people who are vaccinated. This kind of commercial incentive gives people more reasons why they want to vaccinate. If you come think of it, then it might be a good thing that vaccinated citizens are getting these incentives. Still, the wearing of masks should still be followed if you are going to ask me. Asymptomatic people carry them, and we have no proof yet that vaccinated persons will no longer get the virus or be carriers of it.

You are absolutely right. It is still too little time before we can draw proper conclusions about the effectiveness of vaccines, so wearing a mask in public places is a very important measure to contain the spread of coronavirus. The more people understand this and comply with it, the better for all of us.
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I agree with you, this is not the time to be complacent and it also not the time to complain about a certain organization incompetence because the pandemic fight was a hell of a fight and it never been easy for every organization involve especially the medical practitioner.
What everyone needs is to be calm down and help whatever they can do to at least minimize the contagion of this corona virus pandemic. Well, for those fully vaccinated people regardless of what vaccine has been done to you, you should still be careful and be responsible. And for those who don't want to take the vaccine, no one is stopping you from doing it and no one stops the people that want to get vaccinated so they can go outside just like these people that go in and out with the casinos in the Vegas freely. And to those that are into conspiracies, all of us wanted to end this pandemic and what we all need is unity and cooperation.
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If those vaccinated people are also dying even if they're fully vaccinated, that's scary to think that there's a need to manufacture a better vaccine that has to be manufactured and made a case study as soon as possible.
Well vaccines are not a guarantee that you're free to become infected of the virus, its just a protection. Thus it depends on us if we're going to act as if there's no virus existing anymore or still follow the standard precautions.

Anyway its a good news that vaccinated citizen can already play in the physical casinos in Nevada however its still best to be cautious to not risk ourselves.

From the looks of it, many establishments all around the world are giving some bonus items or services to people who are vaccinated. This kind of commercial incentive gives people more reasons why they want to vaccinate. If you come think of it, then it might be a good thing that vaccinated citizens are getting these incentives. Still, the wearing of masks should still be followed if you are going to ask me. Asymptomatic people carry them, and we have no proof yet that vaccinated persons will no longer get the virus or be carriers of it.
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If those vaccinated people are also dying even if they're fully vaccinated, that's scary to think that there's a need to manufacture a better vaccine that has to be manufactured and made a case study as soon as possible.
Well vaccines are not a guarantee that you're free to become infected of the virus, its just a protection. Thus it depends on us if we're going to act as if there's no virus existing anymore or still follow the standard precautions.

Anyway its a good news that vaccinated citizen can already play in the physical casinos in Nevada however its still best to be cautious to not risk ourselves.

There are still some people who are misinformed, they think vaccines make sure they don't get infected with the virus. Even though until now there is
no vaccine that has been proven to be effective in protecting people 100% from the virus,  therefore we still have to follow health protocols.
Our own vigilance can prevent us from getting infected with the virus, I'm glad to hear that some physical casinos have indeed reopened.
But as you said, it's still best that we don't take risks, it's safer to play online gambling for the time being.
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If those vaccinated people are also dying even if they're fully vaccinated, that's scary to think that there's a need to manufacture a better vaccine that has to be manufactured and made a case study as soon as possible.
Well vaccines are not a guarantee that you're free to become infected of the virus, its just a protection. Thus it depends on us if we're going to act as if there's no virus existing anymore or still follow the standard precautions.

Anyway its a good news that vaccinated citizen can already play in the physical casinos in Nevada however its still best to be cautious to not risk ourselves.
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Difficult story to me if you see the numbers exploding in Great Britain and the delta variant even killing people who were fully vaccinated, I think a certain level of caution is still important. The incidence in Great Britain is above 200 again, I think 216. Considering that Germany's is below 5, that's concerning difference if you ask me.


Well, that's not the case in Las Vegas (still). This place is known to be luxurious and free, they tend to legalise whatever means to attract more clients and visitors. Face shield, face masks and other Covid protective gear is no exemption, thus it will be a hindrance to a place considered escaping from reality.

Though there were reports of a handful of delta variant in that specific county, but I don't think Vegas is changing any health protocols soon.
Not, unless if out break happens.
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About the poor countries, it will longer than we except before the vaccine will reach the poor countries but I am sure the WHO are using capacity to make sure some few in those countries get the vaccine.

The WHO is suffering from their own bad planning. According to their COVAX scheme, the developing nations were to receive hundreds of millions of doses of the vaccines by now. But the shipments were halted in March, when India banned vaccine exports due to rising number of infections in that country. The WHO didn't had any backup plan other than the manufacturers in India and therefore the poor nations had to procure the doses from other suppliers. Many of them opted for the useless Chinese vaccines, which proved to be another blunder.
We shouldn't say WHO planning was bad at all it not their fault and the last time I checked the COVID was something different that we have never experience before and no one have a backup plan for it before it happened.
Because of the issue that may increase the chances of people getting the virus is why I believe Vegas casino regulators and owners are making mistakes.

They are doing this to attract those annoyed people with this kind of protocols,

we can't  deny the fact  that there are people who waned to feel free, those are the targets mostly of this action from the owners of this casinos,   people who wanted to play like in a normal ways of gambling, those gamblers  will go there and start enjoying without those annoying safety health protocols,  believing that with the full those of vaccines they are already immune with this virus and they can act normally.

Difficult story to me if you see the numbers exploding in Great Britain and the delta variant even killing people who were fully vaccinated, I think a certain level of caution is still important. The incidence in Great Britain is above 200 again, I think 216. Considering that Germany's is below 5, that's concerning difference if you ask me.

@mv1986 you totally understand my stance about this issue and it totally not acceptable for casino owners should allow people who are fully vaccinated not to use masks because they wanted to attract customers whereas a certain precaution ought to be followed.


About the poor countries, it will longer than we except before the vaccine will reach the poor countries but I am sure the WHO are using capacity to make sure some few in those countries get the vaccine.

The WHO is suffering from their own bad planning. According to their COVAX scheme, the developing nations were to receive hundreds of millions of doses of the vaccines by now. But the shipments were halted in March, when India banned vaccine exports due to rising number of infections in that country. The WHO didn't had any backup plan other than the manufacturers in India and therefore the poor nations had to procure the doses from other suppliers. Many of them opted for the useless Chinese vaccines, which proved to be another blunder.
We shouldn't say WHO planning was bad at all it not their fault and the last time I checked the COVID was something different that we have never experience before and no one have a backup plan for it before it happened.
Because of the issue that may increase the chances of people getting the virus is why I believe Vegas casino regulators and owners are making mistakes.
Foremost, I think that this not yet the time to be complacent just because of the availability of the vaccine. Protocols must be still in place and be observed by everyone to guarantee safety. And regarding with the plans and strategies of WHO, it is understandable that this pandemic has been one of a hell fight but given the time spent now battling it, much comprehensive plans and feasible results must be accounted for.
I agree with you, this is not the time to be complacent and it also not the time to complain about a certain organization incompetence because the pandemic fight was a hell of a fight and it never been easy for every organization involve especially the medical practitioner.
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Difficult story to me if you see the numbers exploding in Great Britain and the delta variant even killing people who were fully vaccinated, I think a certain level of caution is still important. The incidence in Great Britain is above 200 again, I think 216. Considering that Germany's is below 5, that's concerning difference if you ask me.
This is new news to me. I know that there's now a new variant that's more contagious than the first ones and this makes it important to just follow such protocols when people from those countries with various cases before going outside.
If those vaccinated people are also dying even if they're fully vaccinated, that's scary to think that there's a need to manufacture a better vaccine that has to be manufactured and made a case study as soon as possible.
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we can't  deny the fact  that there are people who waned to feel free, those are the targets mostly of this action from the owners of this casinos,   people who wanted to play like in a normal ways of gambling, those gamblers  will go there and start enjoying without those annoying safety health protocols,  believing that with the full those of vaccines they are already immune with this virus and they can act normally.
^ Then they should accept that we are now in the new normal stage, there is nothing we can do to come back to the normal situation and everyone now adopt this protocol for our own safety. Even though you are vaccinated, yet we don't have 100% sure that you are totally immune, the chances of infecting the virus probably 50% and there is no full assurance that you are safe. We should do what is the right thing not for temporary happiness. As long as you can, always wear at least a facemask in all public places to avoid the virus keep spread if we want to have the freedom to go outside.
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Too much controversy and issues with Sinovac. Those irregularities also happened on other brands and during their early trials, it's expected to have some issues but as time is progressing, they are developing a much more good brand.

I was vaccinated fully with Sinovac just a few weeks ago as it was required to my office but it doesn't mean I will now trust my future to the vaccine. I didn't feel anything until now and even willing to undergo a yearly boost of the same vaccine.

Even you are vaccinated with Pfizer, Moderna, or any top brands over Sinovac, it depends on your body how to react to it.
I will say the same as you because as long as our body has a good immune system, that vaccine can help increase our immune to better. But no matter what the vaccine, after we got vaccinated, we still need to be careful because after vaccination, our body can get side effects that will be different from the other people.

I am not yet vaccinated and still waiting for the queue that I do not know when they call. But what I heard from people who already vaccinated, some of them feel sleepy but there is no significant effect. Some of my friends say they do not believe in the vaccine and do not want to get the vaccine. But if I get called for vaccination, I will come to the hospital and am ready for that. After I am vaccinated, I will not go to the crowd for at least 2 weeks to make sure that I am okay.
Quite a few side effects can occur such as elevated body temperature during the first few days of vaccination and besides such symptoms, the vaccinated site will also swell, these are the cases I see in my country. The effect and immunity are also not perfect and sometimes vaccinated people become the mediators of the spread, considering the conjecture associated with such news, it is risky to encourage individuals not to wear masks, wearing a mask can be uncomfortable in communication but it is our protection and awareness with others
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About the poor countries, it will longer than we except before the vaccine will reach the poor countries but I am sure the WHO are using capacity to make sure some few in those countries get the vaccine.

The WHO is suffering from their own bad planning. According to their COVAX scheme, the developing nations were to receive hundreds of millions of doses of the vaccines by now. But the shipments were halted in March, when India banned vaccine exports due to rising number of infections in that country. The WHO didn't had any backup plan other than the manufacturers in India and therefore the poor nations had to procure the doses from other suppliers. Many of them opted for the useless Chinese vaccines, which proved to be another blunder.
We shouldn't say WHO planning was bad at all it not their fault and the last time I checked the COVID was something different that we have never experience before and no one have a backup plan for it before it happened.
Because of the issue that may increase the chances of people getting the virus is why I believe Vegas casino regulators and owners are making mistakes.

They are doing this to attract those annoyed people with this kind of protocols,

we can't  deny the fact  that there are people who waned to feel free, those are the targets mostly of this action from the owners of this casinos,   people who wanted to play like in a normal ways of gambling, those gamblers  will go there and start enjoying without those annoying safety health protocols,  believing that with the full those of vaccines they are already immune with this virus and they can act normally.

Difficult story to me if you see the numbers exploding in Great Britain and the delta variant even killing people who were fully vaccinated, I think a certain level of caution is still important. The incidence in Great Britain is above 200 again, I think 216. Considering that Germany's is below 5, that's concerning difference if you ask me.
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About the poor countries, it will longer than we except before the vaccine will reach the poor countries but I am sure the WHO are using capacity to make sure some few in those countries get the vaccine.

The WHO is suffering from their own bad planning. According to their COVAX scheme, the developing nations were to receive hundreds of millions of doses of the vaccines by now. But the shipments were halted in March, when India banned vaccine exports due to rising number of infections in that country. The WHO didn't had any backup plan other than the manufacturers in India and therefore the poor nations had to procure the doses from other suppliers. Many of them opted for the useless Chinese vaccines, which proved to be another blunder.
We shouldn't say WHO planning was bad at all it not their fault and the last time I checked the COVID was something different that we have never experience before and no one have a backup plan for it before it happened.
Because of the issue that may increase the chances of people getting the virus is why I believe Vegas casino regulators and owners are making mistakes.

They are doing this to attract those annoyed people with this kind of protocols,

we can't  deny the fact  that there are people who waned to feel free, those are the targets mostly of this action from the owners of this casinos,   people who wanted to play like in a normal ways of gambling, those gamblers  will go there and start enjoying without those annoying safety health protocols,  believing that with the full those of vaccines they are already immune with this virus and they can act normally.
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About the poor countries, it will longer than we except before the vaccine will reach the poor countries but I am sure the WHO are using capacity to make sure some few in those countries get the vaccine.

The WHO is suffering from their own bad planning. According to their COVAX scheme, the developing nations were to receive hundreds of millions of doses of the vaccines by now. But the shipments were halted in March, when India banned vaccine exports due to rising number of infections in that country. The WHO didn't had any backup plan other than the manufacturers in India and therefore the poor nations had to procure the doses from other suppliers. Many of them opted for the useless Chinese vaccines, which proved to be another blunder.
We shouldn't say WHO planning was bad at all it not their fault and the last time I checked the COVID was something different that we have never experience before and no one have a backup plan for it before it happened.
Because of the issue that may increase the chances of people getting the virus is why I believe Vegas casino regulators and owners are making mistakes.
Foremost, I think that this not yet the time to be complacent just because of the availability of the vaccine. Protocols must be still in place and be observed by everyone to guarantee safety. And regarding with the plans and strategies of WHO, it is understandable that this pandemic has been one of a hell fight but given the time spent now battling it, much comprehensive plans and feasible results must be accounted for.
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About the poor countries, it will longer than we except before the vaccine will reach the poor countries but I am sure the WHO are using capacity to make sure some few in those countries get the vaccine.

The WHO is suffering from their own bad planning. According to their COVAX scheme, the developing nations were to receive hundreds of millions of doses of the vaccines by now. But the shipments were halted in March, when India banned vaccine exports due to rising number of infections in that country. The WHO didn't had any backup plan other than the manufacturers in India and therefore the poor nations had to procure the doses from other suppliers. Many of them opted for the useless Chinese vaccines, which proved to be another blunder.
We shouldn't say WHO planning was bad at all it not their fault and the last time I checked the COVID was something different that we have never experience before and no one have a backup plan for it before it happened.
Because of the issue that may increase the chances of people getting the virus is why I believe Vegas casino regulators and owners are making mistakes.
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Too much controversy and issues with Sinovac. Those irregularities also happened on other brands and during their early trials, it's expected to have some issues but as time is progressing, they are developing a much more good brand.

I was vaccinated fully with Sinovac just a few weeks ago as it was required to my office but it doesn't mean I will now trust my future to the vaccine. I didn't feel anything until now and even willing to undergo a yearly boost of the same vaccine.

Even you are vaccinated with Pfizer, Moderna, or any top brands over Sinovac, it depends on your body how to react to it.
I will say the same as you because as long as our body has a good immune system, that vaccine can help increase our immune to better. But no matter what the vaccine, after we got vaccinated, we still need to be careful because after vaccination, our body can get side effects that will be different from the other people.

I am not yet vaccinated and still waiting for the queue that I do not know when they call. But what I heard from people who already vaccinated, some of them feel sleepy but there is no significant effect. Some of my friends say they do not believe in the vaccine and do not want to get the vaccine. But if I get called for vaccination, I will come to the hospital and am ready for that. After I am vaccinated, I will not go to the crowd for at least 2 weeks to make sure that I am okay.
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Too much controversy and issues with Sinovac. Those irregularities also happened on other brands and during their early trials, it's expected to have some issues but as time is progressing, they are developing a much more good brand.

I was vaccinated fully with Sinovac just a few weeks ago as it was required to my office but it doesn't mean I will now trust my future to the vaccine. I didn't feel anything until now and even willing to undergo a yearly boost of the same vaccine.

Even you are vaccinated with Pfizer, Moderna, or any top brands over Sinovac, it depends on your body how to react to it.
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Sinovac is underrated. Just because it came from a Chinese Company, it means it's useless. Why it was used in other countries if it's useless?

Here in our country, the majority received a full dose of SinoVac and most are feeling well and don't feel any unusual within several weeks or months after being vaccinated.

And the vaccine alone won't save people's life against death caused by Covid-19. It requires a healthy lifestyle too.

I heard that even according to the official data provided by the Chinese, their vaccine is less effective than Pfizer and Moderna. At the moment, no vaccine is ideal (and it cannot be ideal since there is no ideal vaccine against the virus), so as you rightly noted, vaccination does not cancel other measures aimed at increasing safety and immunity.
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Many of them opted for the useless Chinese vaccines, which proved to be another blunder.

Sinovac is underrated. Just because it came from a Chinese Company, it means it's useless. Why it was used in other countries if it's useless?

Here in our country, the majority received a full dose of SinoVac and most are feeling well and don't feel any unusual within several weeks or months after being vaccinated.

And the vaccine alone won't save people's life against death caused by Covid-19. It requires a healthy lifestyle too.
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