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But even if you are fully vaccinated, there's still a chance that you will get infected.

There's no question with that, a person who understands how the vaccine work would know that he can get infected anytime, however, he will not feel ill because he already has the vaccine that will protect his body from reacting against the virus.
^ It will possible and this could be a carrier of the virus, so it means they should just wear a mask in public places.
I am not yet vaccinated so I am surely vulnerable to possible viruses and probably we should avoid the vaccinated people while we do not yet have to get a vaccine. Nevertheless, we need to adjust ourselves, those who are not yet vaccinated, don't go to the casino because people there who have been vaccinated did not wear a mask, let them take off their mask because their body is immune to the said virus.
legendary
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But even if you are fully vaccinated, there's still a chance that you will get infected.

There's no question with that, a person who understands how the vaccine work would know that he can get infected anytime, however, he will not feel ill because he already has the vaccine that will protect his body from reacting against the virus.
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You are mistaken, I would not like to start a discussion about vaccines here, but it has already been established that they are practically useless against rapidly mutating viruses, and even those who have been vaccinated can become infected and die. In addition, they have a short-term impact, if you are ready to get vaccinated every six months then I am not. And I am not ready to endure infringement of rights for medical reasons.
That's a different information that I've read and watched. But there's always the debate about vaccines and I may be wrong and you're right and I respect that. The vaccine are requiring two shots and I think the time interval is just two months after you take the first vaccine and there's the other vaccine that only requires one shot.
I haven't heard that there's a vaccine that requires to be vaccinated every six months.

The fact that we have different information is understandable - everyone (even the most supposedly competent specialists and organizations) change their minds very quickly these days. Even to remember about masks - WHO has changed its opinion several times about whether they are needed or not. As for vaccines, in my country the "vaccine" SputnikV was first presented as a vaccine providing lifelong immunity, then the period was gradually reduced and now it is officially announced that after some time (presumably 6 months) revaccination will be required.
Those vaccines got different immunity and effect on the people that will take the shot. As long as there's going to be an immunity that will happen after the shot then it shall help to create herd immunity that's needed by every population by the world.
Some countries have already taken that immunity because most of their citizens were already vaccinated.
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The fact that we have different information is understandable - everyone (even the most supposedly competent specialists and organizations) change their minds very quickly these days. Even to remember about masks - WHO has changed its opinion several times about whether they are needed or not. As for vaccines, in my country the "vaccine" SputnikV was first presented as a vaccine providing lifelong immunity, then the period was gradually reduced and now it is officially announced that after some time (presumably 6 months) revaccination will be required.

There are two factors in play here. First of all, immunity provided by the vaccine may last somewhere between 12 to 60 months. So you need to get vaccinated after this period. Now it is up to the government to decide whether you need a booster shot after 12 months, or 60 months (or some duration in between). And now the second factor is the emergence of mutated strains. Current bunch of vaccines are showing limited efficacy against these strains. Some of the vaccine manufacturers have already created specific booster shots against the mutated strains. If you want full protection, then you need to take these shots.

I don't fully understand this. Many sources claim that even vaccinated people can become infected and become carriers, since the vaccine works to help prevent symptomatic and severe disease.
But then why are vaccinated individuals exempt from wearing masks indoors?
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The fact that we have different information is understandable - everyone (even the most supposedly competent specialists and organizations) change their minds very quickly these days. Even to remember about masks - WHO has changed its opinion several times about whether they are needed or not. As for vaccines, in my country the "vaccine" SputnikV was first presented as a vaccine providing lifelong immunity, then the period was gradually reduced and now it is officially announced that after some time (presumably 6 months) revaccination will be required.

There are two factors in play here. First of all, immunity provided by the vaccine may last somewhere between 12 to 60 months. So you need to get vaccinated after this period. Now it is up to the government to decide whether you need a booster shot after 12 months, or 60 months (or some duration in between). And now the second factor is the emergence of mutated strains. Current bunch of vaccines are showing limited efficacy against these strains. Some of the vaccine manufacturers have already created specific booster shots against the mutated strains. If you want full protection, then you need to take these shots.

But even if you are fully vaccinated, there's still a chance that you will get infected. We don't know the actual efficacy of these vaccines as we have now different strains. Just to be safe, even if you are fully vaccinated, it is still better to follow strict protocols like using face mask and not be lenient about it. There are some countries reporting that even fully inoculated individuals are not safe to this virus, just like Indonesia, some of their health workers ended up dead even being vaccinated. Or maybe, it also depends on the brand of the vaccine that you will be getting.
legendary
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The fact that we have different information is understandable - everyone (even the most supposedly competent specialists and organizations) change their minds very quickly these days. Even to remember about masks - WHO has changed its opinion several times about whether they are needed or not. As for vaccines, in my country the "vaccine" SputnikV was first presented as a vaccine providing lifelong immunity, then the period was gradually reduced and now it is officially announced that after some time (presumably 6 months) revaccination will be required.

There are two factors in play here. First of all, immunity provided by the vaccine may last somewhere between 12 to 60 months. So you need to get vaccinated after this period. Now it is up to the government to decide whether you need a booster shot after 12 months, or 60 months (or some duration in between). And now the second factor is the emergence of mutated strains. Current bunch of vaccines are showing limited efficacy against these strains. Some of the vaccine manufacturers have already created specific booster shots against the mutated strains. If you want full protection, then you need to take these shots.
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Usually i do hear up about 2 vaccine shots. Recently there was really side effects been mentioning about on some vaccines.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-30/pfizer-covid-vaccine-links-to-heart-inflammation-information/100254282
https://www.livemint.com/news/india/modernas-covid-vaccine-gets-india-nod-from-efficacy-to-side-effects-all-you-need-to-know-11624968087515.html

This is the main reason on why i do still get hesitated on taking a shot.

Obviously no one can force you to get vaccinated. If you opt against vaccination, then there will be no intimidation or compelling from the part of the authorities. But it really surprises me that people are still talking about side effects. Mass vaccination program was launched 7-8 months ago, and till now more than 3 billion doses of the vaccine have been administered. If the rumors about extreme side effects are true, then we should be hearing about millions of deaths and hospitalizations by now. That has not happened. The deaths directly attributed to adverse reaction from vaccination has been measured in double digits.
You are actually on point on this one because it isnt really that much in big numbers if we do talk about into those people who had felt out nor even die with side effects of the vaccines that had been given into the market.
Im bit really paranoid on this one still and im not really that much of convinced because i do still hesitate because several months wont really be enough to be proven out that it is totally safe or im just really
that too fearful on taking a shot but if i do really make convince myself then i might really be taking one soon.I do really missed out those normal days on where you dont really need to wear up
the mask but not for now, im still in observation mode and its true that you arent forced but there are places in the world where the government making it compulsory.
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You are mistaken, I would not like to start a discussion about vaccines here, but it has already been established that they are practically useless against rapidly mutating viruses, and even those who have been vaccinated can become infected and die. In addition, they have a short-term impact, if you are ready to get vaccinated every six months then I am not. And I am not ready to endure infringement of rights for medical reasons.
That's a different information that I've read and watched. But there's always the debate about vaccines and I may be wrong and you're right and I respect that. The vaccine are requiring two shots and I think the time interval is just two months after you take the first vaccine and there's the other vaccine that only requires one shot.
I haven't heard that there's a vaccine that requires to be vaccinated every six months.

The fact that we have different information is understandable - everyone (even the most supposedly competent specialists and organizations) change their minds very quickly these days. Even to remember about masks - WHO has changed its opinion several times about whether they are needed or not. As for vaccines, in my country the "vaccine" SputnikV was first presented as a vaccine providing lifelong immunity, then the period was gradually reduced and now it is officially announced that after some time (presumably 6 months) revaccination will be required.
hero member
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Vaccine doesn't make you immune of the virus, it only boosts your immune system to fight the virus. There are various news and takes on taking Covid shot. Some people are hesistant to have it due to it's possible long-term side effects since it is something new. Even with vaccine I wouldn't risk going to casinos since it is not guaranteed you will not be infected with Covid.
Hopefully, after you get the vaccine, your immune system can create a new immune system that can prevent the virus from infecting your body.
The side effects for every person will be different as they have a different immune system that protects their body.
And when the vaccine injects into your body, that will get an effect on your body.
Some people will get a fever, sleepy, does not have power and else.
Maybe that is because the vaccine is trying to combine their immune to your body.
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Usually i do hear up about 2 vaccine shots. Recently there was really side effects been mentioning about on some vaccines.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-30/pfizer-covid-vaccine-links-to-heart-inflammation-information/100254282
https://www.livemint.com/news/india/modernas-covid-vaccine-gets-india-nod-from-efficacy-to-side-effects-all-you-need-to-know-11624968087515.html

This is the main reason on why i do still get hesitated on taking a shot.

Obviously no one can force you to get vaccinated. If you opt against vaccination, then there will be no intimidation or compelling from the part of the authorities. But it really surprises me that people are still talking about side effects. Mass vaccination program was launched 7-8 months ago, and till now more than 3 billion doses of the vaccine have been administered. If the rumors about extreme side effects are true, then we should be hearing about millions of deaths and hospitalizations by now. That has not happened. The deaths directly attributed to adverse reaction from vaccination has been measured in double digits.
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Vaccine doesn't make you immune of the virus, it only boosts your immune system to fight the virus. There are various news and takes on taking Covid shot. Some people are hesistant to have it due to it's possible long-term side effects since it is something new. Even with vaccine I wouldn't risk going to casinos since it is not guaranteed you will not be infected with Covid.
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I don't like the idea either but that seem to be their solution to know who are those vaccinated and not yet vaccinated. But there's such a division with this idea because whoever gets the vaccine, they're allowed to go on and proceed while those that haven't taken the shot, they won't be prioritized or passed on. That's very hard for those that haven't taken the vaccine but the only solution is to be vaccinated. But yeah, these vaccine passports are also prone to being faked by those who wants to bypass being vaccinated.

You are mistaken, I would not like to start a discussion about vaccines here, but it has already been established that they are practically useless against rapidly mutating viruses, and even those who have been vaccinated can become infected and die. In addition, they have a short-term impact, if you are ready to get vaccinated every six months then I am not. And I am not ready to endure infringement of rights for medical reasons.
That's a different information that I've read and watched. But there's always the debate about vaccines and I may be wrong and you're right and I respect that. The vaccine are requiring two shots and I think the time interval is just two months after you take the first vaccine and there's the other vaccine that only requires one shot.
I haven't heard that there's a vaccine that requires to be vaccinated every six months.
Usually i do hear up about 2 vaccine shots. Recently there was really side effects been mentioning about on some vaccines.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-30/pfizer-covid-vaccine-links-to-heart-inflammation-information/100254282
https://www.livemint.com/news/india/modernas-covid-vaccine-gets-india-nod-from-efficacy-to-side-effects-all-you-need-to-know-11624968087515.html

This is the main reason on why i do still get hesitated on taking a shot.
hero member
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I don't like the idea either but that seem to be their solution to know who are those vaccinated and not yet vaccinated. But there's such a division with this idea because whoever gets the vaccine, they're allowed to go on and proceed while those that haven't taken the shot, they won't be prioritized or passed on. That's very hard for those that haven't taken the vaccine but the only solution is to be vaccinated. But yeah, these vaccine passports are also prone to being faked by those who wants to bypass being vaccinated.

You are mistaken, I would not like to start a discussion about vaccines here, but it has already been established that they are practically useless against rapidly mutating viruses, and even those who have been vaccinated can become infected and die. In addition, they have a short-term impact, if you are ready to get vaccinated every six months then I am not. And I am not ready to endure infringement of rights for medical reasons.
That's a different information that I've read and watched. But there's always the debate about vaccines and I may be wrong and you're right and I respect that. The vaccine are requiring two shots and I think the time interval is just two months after you take the first vaccine and there's the other vaccine that only requires one shot.
I haven't heard that there's a vaccine that requires to be vaccinated every six months.
legendary
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It depends on how you look at it. Delta variant's transmissibility is higher than that of Alpha variant, and that's why people are so scared: they are taking into account only this aspect of the current situation. But we shouldn't forget that vaccination is now well under way, with 40+ million administered each day now. Almost 25% of the world population has received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine already. Having that in mind, please, read the following:

There are also concerns that current vaccines are less able to protect against the variant, although the latest PHE figures suggest two doses of either vaccine are still highly effective against hospitalization: 96% for Pfizer/BioNTech and 92% for Oxford/AstraZeneca.

In simple words: if vaccinated, even if you catch Delta, the chances of ending up in the hospital are extremely low.

I'm not saying we shouldn't care though. As I said in my earlier post: I don't think going to public places, including casinos, is a good idea these days, even if you are fully vaccinated. But, imo, we should avoid unnecessary panic by all means.

The more I hear about these new strains (yesterday, for example, another and naturally even more dangerous lambda strain appeared) the less seriously I take it. It's like a TV show where every episode is getting worse and worse in quality. Scientists say that the new strains are more infectious (but we cannot check them), but the mortality from them is still less than from the previous ones (we can check this). So why should we be afraid? The epidemic will subside by itself.
By the way, Singapore recently announced that it will revise its medical protocols and in the future will seek to treat covid as a common flu.
P.S. Don't consider me a covid skeptic, but I think that the noise around the coronavirus has done more harm than the virus itself.
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I guess since we haven't heard of ant adverse effects of the vaccine then I feel it's a must take for all since it is a safety measure against the dangerous pandemic. But however some countries haven't gotten enough that would serve their citizens and many political citizens are playing a heavy politics on the covid vaccine. How ever it's a good report to note that at this point there are no adverse effects meaning it's safer especially for people exposed to crowdy environment
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Is this news still up to date? I read that now with the new Delta variant everything is changing again. Apparently the new virus is so highly infectious that there is no real different anymore between people who got vaccinated and people who didn't. So when travelling now we have to do another 14 days of quarantine, no matter if we already had corona in the past or if we are vaccinated. This was exactly what I was afraid of, that there will be a mutation that is much more risky and we are not good protected. I hope not much is going to change in Las Vegas.

When the whole world was moving towards stability, the Delta variant changed everything. The second wave of corona virus has appeared in different countries around the world. Which is scarier than the first time. The countries of South Asia in particular are in more crisis. Because their medical system is far behind the developed countries.

It depends on how you look at it. Delta variant's transmissibility is higher than that of Alpha variant, and that's why people are so scared: they are taking into account only this aspect of the current situation. But we shouldn't forget that vaccination is now well under way, with 40+ million administered each day now. Almost 25% of the world population has received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine already. Having that in mind, please, read the following:

There are also concerns that current vaccines are less able to protect against the variant, although the latest PHE figures suggest two doses of either vaccine are still highly effective against hospitalization: 96% for Pfizer/BioNTech and 92% for Oxford/AstraZeneca.

In simple words: if vaccinated, even if you catch Delta, the chances of ending up in the hospital are extremely low.

I'm not saying we shouldn't care though. As I said in my earlier post: I don't think going to public places, including casinos, is a good idea these days, even if you are fully vaccinated. But, imo, we should avoid unnecessary panic by all means.
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Is this news still up to date? I read that now with the new Delta variant everything is changing again. Apparently the new virus is so highly infectious that there is no real different anymore between people who got vaccinated and people who didn't. So when travelling now we have to do another 14 days of quarantine, no matter if we already had corona in the past or if we are vaccinated. This was exactly what I was afraid of, that there will be a mutation that is much more risky and we are not good protected. I hope not much is going to change in Las Vegas.
The best hope is always there, but if it is a new, more dangerous variant of the virus then of course, the use of masks must still be prioritized. It doesn't matter if they have been vaccinated because wearing masks has to become a new habit at least until this pandemic is completely over, because this virus is still dangerous and all citizens still haven't fully vaccinated, create awareness to keep everything safe.
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Is this news still up to date? I read that now with the new Delta variant everything is changing again. Apparently the new virus is so highly infectious that there is no real different anymore between people who got vaccinated and people who didn't. So when travelling now we have to do another 14 days of quarantine, no matter if we already had corona in the past or if we are vaccinated. This was exactly what I was afraid of, that there will be a mutation that is much more risky and we are not good protected. I hope not much is going to change in Las Vegas.
Yeah That's also in the news nowadays and i believe that this rules will be change (not unless the US manage to keep their country away from that variant in which i believe is impossible)

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Is this news still up to date? I read that now with the new Delta variant everything is changing again. Apparently the new virus is so highly infectious that there is no real different anymore between people who got vaccinated and people who didn't. So when travelling now we have to do another 14 days of quarantine, no matter if we already had corona in the past or if we are vaccinated. This was exactly what I was afraid of, that there will be a mutation that is much more risky and we are not good protected. I hope not much is going to change in Las Vegas.

When the whole world was moving towards stability, the Delta variant changed everything. The second wave of corona virus has appeared in different countries around the world. Which is scarier than the first time. The countries of South Asia in particular are in more crisis. Because their medical system is far behind the developed countries.
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I have a question here. What if the individual falsely claims that he is fully vaccinated? Here in India, we had a few cases where air travelers submitted fake RT-PCR test results to claim that they are COVID negative (although their tests had returned positive results). So is it that difficult to create fake documents to show that the individual is vaccinated? I know that the system in the United States is much better than what we have in India. But still, loopholes will always be there, which will be exploited by criminal minded people.

Very possible, there are people who are ready taking  that kind of risk,

Knowing that even the government have rules about this kind of case. They are still willing to break it if chance permits them, placing more people in danger as this virus can easily spread. No doubts that US have better ways but criminal minds or people who are desperate can still go ahead and do this willingly.
Gamblers has this mentality of being desperate in everything from money to happiness so that is why they can still gamble even though they can be infected by this killer virus.

Hope that people may realized how dangerous this can be .
People can easily get fake documents to go somewhere they want.
As long as they can pay for creating fake documents about their health, they can go anywhere without worry about checking the health officers.
Maybe that is because the awareness from those people will not too high compare to the people who really care about their health so those people use the wrong way to achieve what they want.
I doubt if they will follow the health protocols that their government has given because they really do not care about what happened around them.
Who told you that Covid vaccine document can easily be faked? i don't know in your country but in mine? there is no possibilities that you can do such because the people around this area are very strict on every people that they have vaccinated because the data is very important for the President .
I only heard from the local news and television.
People who want to go to other states need to have a letter explaining that they already pass the Covid and the vaccine check.
Irresponsible doctor offers to those people that they can help them pass the checking to go to the other state.
It is already happening but I still sure that it will solve sooner or later.
Or maybe I am misunderstanding hearing from that news, and if so, I apologize.
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