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Quote from: maydna on August 01, 2023, 03:53:48 AM

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What is the purpose of quitting gambling when you have lost everything and sold everything for gambling. You have lost your family, your near and dear ones and you do not have anything else to sell for gambling. So i don't think anyone can return from this state of mind and start living a normal life again.

An gambling addiction or a gambling abuse should be stopped at initial stages, else it will just ruin your life forever.

The goal is that we can get back up and organize our lives. We can make our goal enlightenment that we can only get after losing everything. And if someone wants to do it because they don't want to sink deeper into gambling, I think that person deserves a second chance to organize their life. But that person must have a strong desire to quit gambling and start curing his gambling addiction by using all means. He would have succeeded if he had fully realized that he was in the wrong direction by playing gambling to the point of experiencing gambling addiction and intending to change his life in a better direction.

I disagree- anyone can definitely start with a clean slate no matter how dreadful or hopeless their situation may be.

We always have the choice whether to accept the current circumstances or to move-on and start anew. Accepting that your life is just over just because you have lost majority of it is somehow a weak mindset. You always have to remain positive no matter how difficult the situation may be. Sure, you have lost every thing due to gambling but all hope is not lost. There are dozens of people who have fallen to this hole and most have came back up and regained their confidence. I also know some that were able to reconcile and start again with their families.

Again, gambling is destructive but even if you are on the deepest end, there is always hope for improvement and change.

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Quote from: benalexis12 on August 04, 2023, 05:39:22 AM

I agree with what @Shosondy said that gambling abuse is not a crime. Is it the fault of the gambling abuser if he finds a casino with a leak so that he can get a profit from it? It's not as if the fault lies with the casino's Gambling platform itself because they didn't organize their website well, so clever gambling abusers took advantage of them. Then these people who do this are probably also possible cheaters. Although it is rare for gamblers to do something like this to become addicted to gambling. That's why we gamblers should never forget to always be responsible for gambling and avoid becoming addicted to it.

it all depends on the gambler behavior towards a site error or a bug occurs on the gambling site. I mean when Im gambling but it turns out that the site is leaking or there is a bug there but the gambler does not know that something is wrong, he just feels if he gets continuous wins it does not matter. but if gamblers who know deliberately take advantage of these bugs, it is clear that this should not be done because every casino regulation has rules if a bug occurs and someone uses it, it is the same as breaking the rules.

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Quote from: Yatsan on July 26, 2023, 11:19:04 AM

Gambling abuse is simply gambling addiction. Everyone indeed is allowed to play and gamble. Some are financially benefiting from it and some are being entertained from doing so. Gambling for a long period of time within a day does not guarantee abad outcome. What does, is simply instances wherein emotion becomes an innate drive to go for more despite of the situation or circumstances; huge loss. Time after time, either a winning or losing bet, you'd be wanting for more in order to get back with the losses. And once you hit a huge win and have already got back with that amount, you'd be desiring for profit afterwards. Then the unfortunate will again happen, and that would be a cycle. Key player here is our emotion and our discipline with ourselves. Is gambling a dangerous activity? No, it is our intention which is.

You can really relate gambling addiction and gambling abuse. If a person is doing something excessively, he is somewhat abusing his capability to gamble. Going overboard on your spending limitations and time restrictions can be a sign of gambling abuse in terms of player's playing habits. The unstoppable urge of gambling despite having little to no fund for it is an evidence of gambling abuse. Sometimes, priority mismatch and poor decision making are the effects of it too just like any other kinds of vices.

It's just unfortunate how many people fall into this. I just hope that players will learn their lessons to not add up on gambling addict cases to be treated. Because after all, prevention is always better than cure.

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Quote from: Westinhome on August 04, 2023, 09:31:34 AM

Quote from: maydna on August 04, 2023, 05:10:25 AM

That is if they know that they shouldn't have that attitude, but many people still want to use gambling as a source of income. That causes them to abuse gambling as a source of income even though they can't get any money. People should only make gambling a means of entertainment and fun so they do not use or abuse gambling as a source of income. It won't work for them, at least for most people because some people make money gambling, but it just isn't as much as the people who lose.

Taking gambling as their income source is purely depends on the gambler,but my suggestion is he should split the money he had into different parts.Some money should be invested in the cryptocurrency for his back up.He can use fifty percentage of holdings to crypto investment in trusted coin.Then he can use 30 percentage of the money in to gambling,then he need to check his luck.If he had good luck,he can use the rest 20 percentage into the gambling.So if they get into full loss after the 50 percentage,he will have remaining for the backup.This is my way of gambling to avoid of complete loss,the back up money help as the backup.

It's better if a gambler want to save his money and invest it in a good coin or in any trusted crypto currencies. And wise strategy once a gambler win a good amount of money then it's better to save it or invest it for the future. But if a gambler want to spend his all winnings in things that not too much useful then one thing I can say that mindset is not good as we all know that not all the time we won in our every bet.

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Quote from: maydna on August 04, 2023, 05:10:25 AM

That is if they know that they shouldn't have that attitude, but many people still want to use gambling as a source of income. That causes them to abuse gambling as a source of income even though they can't get any money. People should only make gambling a means of entertainment and fun so they do not use or abuse gambling as a source of income. It won't work for them, at least for most people because some people make money gambling, but it just isn't as much as the people who lose.

Taking gambling as their income source is purely depends on the gambler,but my suggestion is he should split the money he had into different parts.Some money should be invested in the cryptocurrency for his back up.He can use fifty percentage of holdings to crypto investment in trusted coin.Then he can use 30 percentage of the money in to gambling,then he need to check his luck.If he had good luck,he can use the rest 20 percentage into the gambling.So if they get into full loss after the 50 percentage,he will have remaining for the backup.This is my way of gambling to avoid of complete loss,the back up money help as the backup.

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I agree with what @Shosondy said that gambling abuse is not a crime. Is it the fault of the gambling abuser if he finds a casino with a leak so that he can get a profit from it? It's not as if the fault lies with the casino's Gambling platform itself because they didn't organize their website well, so clever gambling abusers took advantage of them. Then these people who do this are probably also possible cheaters. Although it is rare for gamblers to do something like this to become addicted to gambling. That's why we gamblers should never forget to always be responsible for gambling and avoid becoming addicted to it.

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Quote from: Westinhome on August 03, 2023, 05:12:19 PM

Quote from: maydna on August 01, 2023, 03:53:48 AM

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The people should not have an attitude of using gambling as the income source.Because the people do gambling will have a chance of winning and losing based on their luck.The luck is not the permanent one to any people,So the income can’t be generated by the gambling.The gamblers should do the work for their real source of income,but they can use the gambling only as the entertainment source.Some gamblers had an attitude of abusing the gambling after quit of gambling.Gambling is the right of gamblers,So he can quit or play till her old ages.If you get addicted into the gambling,it’s essential one to get away from gambling.

That is if they know that they shouldn't have that attitude, but many people still want to use gambling as a source of income. That causes them to abuse gambling as a source of income even though they can't get any money. People should only make gambling a means of entertainment and fun so they do not use or abuse gambling as a source of income. It won't work for them, at least for most people because some people make money gambling, but it just isn't as much as the people who lose.

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Quote from: GigaBit on August 03, 2023, 06:34:18 PM

Governments of any country use their existing laws to bring anything under control when anything goes too far and leads to a breakdown of law and order. I don't think anyone should be arrested for gambling if he loses a large amount or becomes intoxicated as a result of that loss. Because when gambling is done this kind of tendency is seen in almost many gamblers and after some time that effect also ends. In this case it does not seem that anyone should be arrested or brought to justice unless he is committing some other deadly crime.

Abusing gambling, except the individual would not come out alive. Gambling is one of the ways to make significant profits from the system, some made it out in hugh figures while some are struggling with liquidated accounts. Gambling is basically not for everyone, we gamble and also fueled up our energy whenever we're less busy, engaging in it wouldn't do any harm but when one is desperate and keen on making some money, he will definitely face the worst negative sides of gamble, the system will wrecked him and keep him in criteria circumstances and debts.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on July 24, 2023, 03:56:08 AM

what do you think about this?
Do you agree that gambling outside what gambling is meant for is abuse on gambling?
If you agree, what do you think should be done to gambling abusers if there was a way to catch them?
Should they be arrested and prosecuted same way drug abusers are arrested and prosecuted if caught?

Governments of any country use their existing laws to bring anything under control when anything goes too far and leads to a breakdown of law and order. I don't think anyone should be arrested for gambling if he loses a large amount or becomes intoxicated as a result of that loss. Because when gambling is done this kind of tendency is seen in almost many gamblers and after some time that effect also ends. In this case it does not seem that anyone should be arrested or brought to justice unless he is committing some other deadly crime.

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Quote from: elevates on August 01, 2023, 01:37:39 AM

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This is how it all starts and ends with debt that cannot be prepared. To an extent, a lot of guys do get influenced by their surroundings. In this case, he saw his neighbors making money through gambling and he got inspired. None of his neighbours would tell the truth on how they are making money but the narrative that he has is what has been told by them to him. There can be exclusion when someone got lucky and was able to get a handful. That is not always the case and cannot be as people need to lose for 1 to win. In the end, those who lost have to arrange money from somewhere to recover that loss. It is a cycle that only ends with a big win or a big loss.

A weak mindset is usually what causes people to be swept by others, and this is what most casinos go for. It doesn't even need for someone to just win in a casino, it just needs someone a bit of talking about all the "possible" advantages of gambling. And let's be real, the biggest advantage it has is the biggest influence someone can be swept with, money.

Quote from: bitterguy28 on August 01, 2023, 01:55:12 AM

Abuse in Gambling mostly comes when a person is also abuser of other vises , specially when they are addicted in drugs as there are couple of friends of mine that turns addicted in gambling but first in drugs,
they have just used the gambling as a tripping place to sustain their boring time from the effect of drugs so they find gambling houses as a relief.
hope that one day He'll find better place than those abuses and addiction.

Abuse happens in the first place due to the life you've lived, in most cases. Whether it started from vices or whatever, it stems from the lifestyle you've experienced from young till now, and that's pretty much where every issue with regards to suicidal tendencies, depression, anger management issues, and stuff like that stem from. It's nothing new, but it's also something the majority of people can't help with unless the case was pretty much publicized.

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Quote from: maydna on August 01, 2023, 03:53:48 AM

The goal is that we can get back up and organize our lives. We can make our goal enlightenment that we can only get after losing everything. And if someone wants to do it because they don't want to sink deeper into gambling, I think that person deserves a second chance to organize their life. But that person must have a strong desire to quit gambling and start curing his gambling addiction by using all means. He would have succeeded if he had fully realized that he was in the wrong direction by playing gambling to the point of experiencing gambling addiction and intending to change his life in a better direction.

The people should not have an attitude of using gambling as the income source.Because the people do gambling will have a chance of winning and losing based on their luck.The luck is not the permanent one to any people,So the income can’t be generated by the gambling.The gamblers should do the work for their real source of income,but they can use the gambling only as the entertainment source.Some gamblers had an attitude of abusing the gambling after quit of gambling.Gambling is the right of gamblers,So he can quit or play till her old ages.If you get addicted into the gambling,it’s essential one to get away from gambling.

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Quote from: Outhue on July 31, 2023, 01:58:47 AM

Too much of everything is abuse, you need to sit and think about it, what will happen if you drink too much? What will happen if you eat too much? What will happen if you use your power on your fellow citizens because you are a high ranking official? Everything comes with a bad ending, this makes gambling not left out if this discussion, if you gamble too much you will probably lose everything because thinking straight as a gambler is very hard, it's not common to see a gambler who still take care of his family, the majority of gamblers always end up broke and someone else take over their home and they lost their wives to responsible men.

To live healthy there is an amount of sugar we must consume per day, also salt and others, to be a responsible gambler you must have an amount in mind that you are ready to lose, not going into a casino and betting all money you have in your bank account or Bitcoin wallet.

Whatever you said is absolutely right, excess of anything is harmful, be it gambling or anything in the world, excess of even the things that are actually good and should be done is not good for anyone, but, the topic is not basically about this and you would know this if you read the OP. He has said that someone who takes gambling as a way to earn an income is abusing the term gambling because it is actually not something to be used for that.

And he also says that a person who takes gambling as a source of income should be punishable by law, which is totally absurd if you ask me. Whether gambling is or isn't for that purpose, if someone thinks of it differently and wants to achieve something from it, it will only harm them in the long run, but they are not breaking any law, and I don't really consider that being abuse at all.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on July 31, 2023, 11:55:20 AM

Quote from: maydna on July 31, 2023, 11:48:08 AM

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What is the purpose of quitting gambling when you have lost everything and sold everything for gambling. You have lost your family, your near and dear ones and you do not have anything else to sell for gambling. So i don't think anyone can return from this state of mind and start living a normal life again.

An gambling addiction or a gambling abuse should be stopped at initial stages, else it will just ruin your life forever.

The goal is that we can get back up and organize our lives. We can make our goal enlightenment that we can only get after losing everything. And if someone wants to do it because they don't want to sink deeper into gambling, I think that person deserves a second chance to organize their life. But that person must have a strong desire to quit gambling and start curing his gambling addiction by using all means. He would have succeeded if he had fully realized that he was in the wrong direction by playing gambling to the point of experiencing gambling addiction and intending to change his life in a better direction.

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Quote from: yazher on July 30, 2023, 09:51:28 AM

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That is the sad truth.People who have difficulties in controlling their emotions usually do these kind of deeds which ends up being critical.There is unfortunately no real solution to that as this will continue to happen just as it has happened so far and these people will not cease to exist.These are really low character people and they should since the first start know themselves of being weak and should not approach gambling at all in the beginning.Casinos are doing a lot in this regard by implementing the gamble responsibly in different ways yet we have not a real solution to this problem.

Some people do some extraordinarily bad things just to fund their addictions and most of these people are poor and choose to gamble their money instead of saving it. That's why when they lose it all, they also lose their minds as well because there is no turning back for them, and since they don't have any multiple sources of income, they ended up stealing other's properties and some worse cases, they hold up in the dark streets to forcibly stole money from students or workers that are passerby.

Looking at the existing conditions, it is indeed something like this that often happens because in this case there is actually a condition where these people have thoughts of being fed up with their condition and hope that gambling can make a reversal of the finances they have instantly.
This is like a form of desperation for someone I think because indeed they can't think of what to do to change their social status so they have narrower thoughts in the end.

I don't think we can blame this kind of thinking for everyone but on the other hand decisions like this are clearly wrong because they only want instant hope in the wrong way which in the end makes greater misery.

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Abuse in Gambling mostly comes when a person is also abuser of other vises , specially when they are addicted in drugs as there are couple of friends of mine that turns addicted in gambling but first in drugs,
they have just used the gambling as a tripping place to sustain their boring time from the effect of drugs so they find gambling houses as a relief.
hope that one day He'll find better place than those abuses and addiction.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on July 27, 2023, 05:07:52 AM

Not all gambling is wrong, in my opinion we have to position our way of gambling that is good, correct and disciplined according to applicable rules, so don't think that gambling is wrong. some people gamble to get additional family finances and there are also people who like it as a hobby and some just to fill their spare time.

I see people around me who have been gambling financially for a long time, their families are quite advanced, before they were still barely able and that is what motivated me to gamble, yes even though not all of them are successful, at least I know about gambling and of course I know all the consequences.

Well, though I'm happy for the people that live around you and got success in gambling, I wouldn't recommend getting inspired by them and starting gambling more often than you usually do because what happens with one doesn't necessarily have to happen with another, so just because they got success in gambling, it doesn't mean that you can get success in it too because we all know that a vast majority of gamblers tend to lose more than they win.

This is how it all starts and ends with debt that cannot be prepared. To an extent, a lot of guys do get influenced by their surroundings. In this case, he saw his neighbors making money through gambling and he got inspired. None of his neighbours would tell the truth on how they are making money but the narrative that he has is what has been told by them to him. There can be exclusion when someone got lucky and was able to get a handful. That is not always the case and cannot be as people need to lose for 1 to win. In the end, those who lost have to arrange money from somewhere to recover that loss. It is a cycle that only ends with a big win or a big loss.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on July 31, 2023, 01:02:07 PM

There's no abuse we can give to gambling without us getting abused first because we are the ones involved in gambling and what goes into gambling first comes through us, left to me alone we cannot abuse gambling except we get a used at the cause and at the end gambling is not affected but we are, we can also say that we may abuse the gambling platforms in some of our crooked ways when we wanted to cheat them by proving smart over their system, gamblers can be unpredictable in so many while attempting abuse on different levels in gambling.

It's more like gambling and not been able to concentrate on the system. Gambling is one of the riskiest activities that we can participate in; having the presence of account liquidations is enough; instead, we simply stick to what works best for us rather than mimicking the techniques of other gamblers. Do you have a gambling problem? It is not conceivable since the system regulates everything we do as long as it involves gambling. It is critical that we establish the fundamental needs for our goals and concentrate on what we will benefit from the system.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on July 27, 2023, 05:07:52 AM

Not all gambling is wrong, in my opinion we have to position our way of gambling that is good, correct and disciplined according to applicable rules, so don't think that gambling is wrong. some people gamble to get additional family finances and there are also people who like it as a hobby and some just to fill their spare time.

I see people around me who have been gambling financially for a long time, their families are quite advanced, before they were still barely able and that is what motivated me to gamble, yes even though not all of them are successful, at least I know about gambling and of course I know all the consequences.

Well, though I'm happy for the people that live around you and got success in gambling, I wouldn't recommend getting inspired by them and starting gambling more often than you usually do because what happens with one doesn't necessarily have to happen with another, so just because they got success in gambling, it doesn't mean that you can get success in it too because we all know that a vast majority of gamblers tend to lose more than they win.

So, one should never take gambling as a way for them to gain constant profits because it doesn't happen all the time and to everyone, there are only a specific amount of people that are so lucky that they might lose but never get in loss when they gamble and that becomes the reason why they become successful in it.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on July 31, 2023, 12:26:45 PM

I have never heard,seen or thought about gambling being something that people can use to self-harm. I have met self-harmers but they were usually the physical kind. If a person becomes so clinically depressed that they decide to harm themselves by harming their finances, they could definitely go to a casino and just bet it all on a single game. I have once felt something similar when I lost a lot of money in one bet. I bet a large sum of money again out of a "vengeful" feeling towards myself for losing.

But what kind of prevention help could that person receive before he decided to waste away his life's savings because it was one of the worst days in his life and he was emotionally compromised?

Many forms of self-harm exist. You know, mental and emotional distress can lead to poor behavior like gaming too much. Even if they don't injure themselves directly, financial ruin and worry are self-harm.

How to halt anything is complicated. It may require several steps. We need better mental health care. People would act less if they had better access to therapy, counseling, and medicine. Self-exclusion schemes in real-world and online casinos can also prevent excessive gaming.

Finally, game addiction has to be better understood. After all, the first step to tackling an issue is recognizing it, right?

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There's no abuse we can give to gambling without us getting abused first because we are the ones involved in gambling and what goes into gambling first comes through us, left to me alone we cannot abuse gambling except we get a used at the cause and at the end gambling is not affected but we are, we can also say that we may abuse the gambling platforms in some of our crooked ways when we wanted to cheat them by proving smart over their system, gamblers can be unpredictable in so many while attempting abuse on different levels in gambling.

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