Topic: Gambling Abuse ... - page 5. (Read 1008 times)

well, this topic about gambling abuse is not very different from talking about gambling addiction and for this reason I am bringing here the numbers as things are in the world so that we can make some comparisons and each person draw their own conclusions, starting with the numbers of addicts that the site currently presents:


source: https://scanteam.pro/gambling-addiction-statistics-worldwide/

this link also has a number of people addicted to gambling from some countries in particular, as we can see it is not something as if 50% or more than 50% who play are people who abuse games as it seems when I see so many threads talking about gambling addiction or abuse of gambling, for the beginning there is nothing wrong with people playing a lot sometimes as long as they are using money that they will not need, rich people for example, if they have a lot of business so they don't have problems staying all day at the casino playing, let's tell them not to abuse the game?

but we are forgetting that there are many people addicted to beer and that governments turn a blind eye to this because the owners of beer factories are themselves, to have an idea of the seriousness of the problem:


if we look at this number in terms of data from all countries we will see that the number is much scarier and I myself have seen young people in my country every day consuming beers while driving, I myself have seen cases of people who abuse sex, so I think that gambling is the one that has caused much less damage in relation to a lot of things we have in this world

I think it's not about abuse, but not knowing what it could do to you in the long term is the problem. Imagine, it's you who is being abused, not gambling. Gambling must be controlled, and your urge to gamble should be managed. It's weird to use "abuse" with "gambling" because it's not being used as something to be abused.

I did a quick Google search and yeah, it seems I was misinformed or I was just not aware that gambling addicts are capable of committing crimes because in my hometown, most people that commit crimes like theft, robbery and other stuff to get money are mostly drug addicts, the statistics in my Google search is not to be taken fully though as I believe that a proper academic study should be the reference for this kind of stuff.

How is money laundering part of gambling abuse though? I get that it's a crime but I don't think that launderers want to spend their money on gambling.

I think some casinos and third party game providers have figured out, how to make gambling addictive. Take slot technology as an example... the developers figured out that you have to design a "game" that will constantly give small rewards at random to keep the gambler playing for longer..... but if the gambler play long enough, then you can take all their money. (Enable the in-game graph on Stake.com and see the long-term downward spiral when you play slots) 

They also figured out how to trigger adrenaline release with players, by giving regular "Free Spins" and small "Jackpots" .....and people gets addicted to that adrenaline rush. 

And gambling abuse can lead to addiction in a person. This has happened to many people; like drug addiction, the effects create serious problems for addicted gamblers. They will lose a lot of money and valuables because they just want to gamble without stopping. And even though they have won, it doesn't stop them from gambling because they want more wins. Maybe if something is not used properly, it can be categorized as abuse, especially when we are talking about gambling. And people who cheat in gambling also include abuse because they don't gamble how they should and only because they want to win.

Maybe that's their goal in playing gambling but they should also realize that gambling will not be able to make money. Gambling is entertainment, just like other entertainment that we often use, so if people aim to make money from gambling, they have misused the meaning of gambling itself. And because of this abuse, they also have to know the risks because casinos will not tolerate gamblers who are caught abusing their system or cheating. And if they borrow money from other people, that includes abusing the purpose of gambling because their goals have changed.

Yes, it depends on each person. But abuse itself if we do not use something as it should and there is a tendency to use something wrong. But after all, we must be able to place gambling as entertainment and not as a way or a place to make money. It will not be able to allow us to earn money because the chances of losing will be greater than winning. So gambling abuse will only impact us where we can lose money. The worst thing is that we can lose our gambling account.

No, instead there are lots of abusers or gambling addicts who commit crimes.
As an example of money laundering in casinos and even worse, there are gambling addicts who are willing to commit criminal acts such as stealing, mugging and extortion just to be able to get some money so they can continue their gambling activities.
Even though it's not much, it's all the negative impact of those who can't control themselves when they are in the gambling industry.

Isn't abuse and addiction the same thing? I tried to search for their difference but all I see is misinterpretation of what I'm looking for. I guess I will be basing my opinion on the substance abuse and substance addiction dichotomy, the same as OP.

Gambling abuse is when you're just starting down the path towards gambling addiction which I think is the stage where you're more likely to be helped through intervention as you are still aware that you have a problem.
I agree, as I've said, abuse is the starting path for gambling addiction which means that if you're gambling not just for entertainment and you're doing it to get a fix, there's definitely a problem there since gambling abuse means that you're lying, neglecting responsibilities and spending excessive amount of time and money for your habit.
I firmly believe in reformation and rehabilitation so I think that an intervention should be done before any drastic measure is done, as I've said and believed in my first statement about gambling abuse, they're aware that they have a problem which means that an intervention might work.
No I don't think so, most of the gambling abusers/addict aren't likely to commit crimes to get their gambling habit fix I don't know if it's true or if there's statistics for this but I'm inclined to believe that most gambling abusers/addicts are well-off in terms of finances unlike drug abusers that resort to crime to get their fix.

It's not the main one either. The main one is the possibility of earning money.


Yes, but the term 'gambling abuse' is not used as such, as the OP tries to make it seem. Gambling addiction, gambling disorder, problem gambling are terms that are used to refer to problematic behaviour in this area, but as if we didn't already have enough terms to refer to the issue, I don't know why the OP wants to extrapolate one from another area here.

What I think is that abuse leads to addiction. As it is with people who abuse common over the counter drugs and get dependent on them for relief this is how it is with gambling. People who abuse it soon get hooked on it for relief or escape from their life's problem and challenges. These people need someone to really open up to and share their burdens with. They need to be someone to hold them accountable.

If there is a way, I don't think they should be arrested. They authorities should rather find a way for them to fulfil the needs of these people where gambling abuse has occupied.

Gamblers exceeding their plan limits all less to gambling abuse, it's just facts. Before signing up for gambling, a gambler already been highlighted by the lights and darks of the system, he knows exactly what he's getting himself into, and I must say, it's very risky and capable of doing some harmful damages. We all have legal rights to do whatever we feel like doing as long as it's the right thing to do. Don't get me wrong, Gambling is definitely one of the activities to indulged in specifically when there's always ways of generating incomes that would served more important purposes at home.

I wouldn't assume it's gambling abuse because they prioritize winning over entertainment, so I have to disagree. Winning can also be part of the entertainment, but not everyone will chase that win desperately. We've seen others maintain their gambling activities consistently without breaking their wallet.

If i'm a casino owner and I catch one of these abusers, then i'd put them on a ban list and encourage other casinos to make their own because these abusers won't stop. It's not the best punishment, but it should discourage them at some point.

That depends on what these gambling abusers have done and it can be understandable to arrest them if they somehow have gone too far (like the example you gave).

Can we consider Gambling addiction as gambling abuse too?
Going beyond the limit, playing excessive games can lead to harmful things the major one to the be the loss of money which the gambler risk in gambling.

People consider investing in gambling but I think that money that is spent in gambling is being risked, either it may pay off well or it will go to zero if the luck is not on our side.

Anything that goes well above the threshold of normal can mean abuse, so gambling isn't really something that's far off from that. There are a lot of people that are 'abusing' their freedom with gambling and ended up racking debts that are obviously not attractive. Moderation and control in everything that we do is the key to not resulting into any "abuse" that will be harmful to us along the way. What simple fun to us could mean a lot of danger in the future if we keep things unchecked.

Not really, entertainment isn't the only reason people gamble. And specifically, the main income doesn't mean they have no alternatives and it doesn't mean the biggest income. But it's clear that gambling as the only means of fulfilling life's needs is the wrong reason, I mean gambling determines the continuation of their life.

The main concern is that someone gambles out of control but he considers it his main income, it is definitely not based on professionalism.

As said people have got their rights and it is upto them to use the drugs based on their mind. We shouldn't make a connect to the gambling activities. Anything that doesn't affect the surrounding can never be judged wrong, he/she does it for self fulfilment and we don't have the rights to question unless it disturb others or the surrounding. Another thing if the money isn't involved into gambling then gambling could've never been this successful and people could've never been this active in it.

With that we both agree. I never meant to portray that Tramadol is more destructive than gambling mind you, just that these two things disrupt the person's life in different ways. With regular gambling there's patterns you won't see from people who's drugging themselves with Tramadol, and that's my only concern cause some people may think that these two things incur the same effects to the people which goes great if you want to scare off people from gambling, but bad if you want to make a point.

At the end of the day it still stands, gambling abuse sucks, so does substance abuse. I only wish recovery for people who have subjected themselves in these dire situations.

The idea of gambling being a means of entertainment was conceived in the gladiators era an epoch when gladiators had to fight each other in an arena filled with spectators that places bets on them for who will lose or win the fight. Unfortunately it were  entertainments that cost the lives of fellows humans.
Today we have different means from which we can be entertained order than gambling. The majority of gamblers today are all in for the money they would win and needless of any entertainment. I don't know if it's the narrative for the money only that has led to so much abuse of gamble ranging from one form of abuse to another.

The effects are what makes them a criminal and I do think our governments have the numbers of criminal activities which are related to gambling abuse. Now, if authorities don't find it as worst as how it does with drug abuse, then no arrest will happen.
There's actually a big difference between the two, a gambler who abuses gambling doesn't really end up robbing a bank because his mind is intact, he is just stressed out. A drug addict has a different type of effect with drug abuse because it literally affects his brains. IMO.
Should gambling abusers be punished? I don't think so, but they do need help.

Addiction or doing up those typical gambling behaviors doesnt really shows up on some abuse because you arent that using up something unlike on what you had mentioned on that example situation
in speaking about using up some substance then it would really be just that right that you should be faced up with some charges or as long it is really that prohibited on legal laws or something then you would be facing up that problem but if those substances or drugs arent that considered illegal then it would really be just make you end up on being hospitalized or being addicted on a substance.There's a particular limitation
on what are the things that could get you imprisoned or not.

In doing gambling and having that intent on making it as a source of income then the thing you are abusing is your own money, Why? You are playing like a mad man and having to
make those things that you do have in mind to make it happen which it isnt even realistic on having this kind of approach towards gambling because not a job on which you could rely
on but rather it is really a past time on which you could really be able to have leisure on.

Isn't this a dereliction of duty?  This is not gambling abuse per se.  This is the manager allowing underage to gamble without thoroughly verifying their client.  This is a reason why the manager were arrested and was severely punished.

The one who commited gambling abuse here is the kid, imho, but because he is a minor and the manager failed to do his duty to prevent that kid from gambling, the punishment then was forwarded to the management.  This is one example of gambling abuse making harm to other people.