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legendary
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July 29, 2023, 02:46:15 PM
#94
I think it's not about abuse, but not knowing what it could do to you in the long term is the problem. Imagine, it's you who is being abused, not gambling. Gambling must be controlled, and your urge to gamble should be managed. It's weird to use "abuse" with "gambling" because it's not being used as something to be abused.

The sad thing about that is that people already know and have the knowledge for what is coming towards them if they chose to walk down that path without any precautions with them yet they still do it anyway with the hopes that they could bring a massive amount in their lifetime by gambling, but in the end, they found their own selves in the exact opposite situation because they fail to set boundaries before starting. By that time, they are already one of the addicted gamblers even if they themselves don't want to be in that position.
People instead of thinking themselves as average think they are exceptional, this means that when we tell them that on average they will lose money when they gamble they will simply disregard those concerns by thinking that since they are exceptional then they will get exceptional results when they gamble too, and as such they can make profits with it, then when reality does not align with their beliefs they cannot withstand it and try to recover what they have lost, an attitude that as we know can only produce even more losses.
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July 27, 2023, 11:03:19 AM
#93
I think it's not about abuse, but not knowing what it could do to you in the long term is the problem. Imagine, it's you who is being abused, not gambling. Gambling must be controlled, and your urge to gamble should be managed. It's weird to use "abuse" with "gambling" because it's not being used as something to be abused.

The sad thing about that is that people already know and have the knowledge for what is coming towards them if they chose to walk down that path without any precautions with them yet they still do it anyway with the hopes that they could bring a massive amount in their lifetime by gambling, but in the end, they found their own selves in the exact opposite situation because they fail to set boundaries before starting. By that time, they are already one of the addicted gamblers even if they themselves don't want to be in that position.
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July 27, 2023, 05:07:52 AM
#92
Not all gambling is wrong, in my opinion we have to position our way of gambling that is good, correct and disciplined according to applicable rules, so don't think that gambling is wrong. some people gamble to get additional family finances and there are also people who like it as a hobby and some just to fill their spare time.
 
I see people around me who have been gambling financially for a long time, their families are quite advanced, before they were still barely able and that is what motivated me to gamble, yes even though not all of them are successful, at least I know about gambling and of course I know all the consequences.
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July 27, 2023, 04:45:57 AM
#91
Gambling has no light at the end of it's tunnel, you will have to crawl your way out of it through out, it's total darkness.

All I can say is either abuse or addiction they both sound the same to me, and too much of everything is not always healthy for humans.

This is not a job or a business that produces a product where you can start marketing and making money, you have no services you are rendering to people, it's not about skills but yes it has something to do with fun.

Having fun and making money out of it is good, but when it gets too much into your head it's going to possibly ruin you, that's where you will start having expectations and dreams.

Have fun with gambling, only when you have spare money, and don't ever think about life changing opportunities using gambling, total darkness is what awaits you if you do.
Anything done in excess is not good for us, so we must limit it. The abuse of gambling is more for someone who does it to win the game. But he didn't think about what effect he would receive after everything ended. If someone already consumes and uses drugs excessively, he has abused the rules for using those drugs. And that is also the same as what is done by someone who gambles excessively, where he no longer sees gambling as a form of entertainment but as a way to make money. And abuse can make someone addicted and everything will change for the worse.
sr. member
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July 27, 2023, 03:09:28 AM
#90
Gambling has no light at the end of it's tunnel, you will have to crawl your way out of it through out, it's total darkness.

All I can say is either abuse or addiction they both sound the same to me, and too much of everything is not always healthy for humans.

This is not a job or a business that produces a product where you can start marketing and making money, you have no services you are rendering to people, it's not about skills but yes it has something to do with fun.

Having fun and making money out of it is good, but when it gets too much into your head it's going to possibly ruin you, that's where you will start having expectations and dreams.

Have fun with gambling, only when you have spare money, and don't ever think about life changing opportunities using gambling, total darkness is what awaits you if you do.

sr. member
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July 27, 2023, 01:45:23 AM
#89
After reading the whole story, I just churkle because I remembered what my grandma used to say to me: "Too much of everything is abuse." and the reason for her saying that to me was after I consumed a large amount of milk and began to vomit and Stooling, I totally fell sick and was hospitalised for almost a week. In relation to what I just said and about your narration and gambling, I would say that too much of everything is abuse. Food can be abused, drugs can be abused, positions can be abused, and many other things can be abused, and there are mostly some of them that you can't do anything about, no matter how hard you try. Can you ask someone who doesn't have a job to stop gambling? Yes, you can, but they will not stop because they are using it as a means of earning income. Although it still also depends on the individual, like I said before, I know of someone who is fully into gambling but is still paying his bills and taking care of his home, but with some other gamblers, it's usually the opposite.
Well, I think the context of the subject here is a bit different than what you described, we all know that excessive use of something is harmful to a person, whether it's abusing that thing or not, it's definitely not good for your own self, so when you do something that isn't good for yourself, you are not lawfully punishable for that since you are already punishing yourself by doing that, and that is exactly what is wrong with the point OP is trying to make.

When a person is using gambling as a way to earn money and losing all their money and stuff, there is no law that can ask them to stop, unless the constitutions of that country have a rule for it because the person is not abusing the casino as they are doing their business and a person gambling excessively is not an abuse to their business, so I don't see why a person should be punishable for doing that.
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July 26, 2023, 03:13:46 PM
#88
What is Gambling Abuse?
Gambling abuse is simply defined as gambling with a motive that is different from the real purpose why gambling is in existence.
Let me also say my view on "Gambling Abuse". Gambling Abuse is the process of unfaithful to the casino which is also violating the terms and conditions of the casino. Therefore, many gamblers abuse their gamblings to play fast game.
Op drug abuse is different from gambling Abuse. Drug abuse is the over use of the drugs or use the drug with a doctor prescription. But in gambling Abuse you play a smart game to with the bet or slot.
What you're talking about is Casino Abuse. Gambling abuse is Gambling addiction really. Although I understand why it's a bit of a misnomer too which is why I don't really use it as much as Fiverstar does. In any case while you're right about one thing and I'm not gonna take that away from you, Casino abuse is a much better term for it since it's not the act thereof of gambling that you're abusing but the vulnerabilities that the casino overlooked that you're taking advantage of. Gambling Abuse still is a term suited for the act of abusing gambling for the highs and the dopamine hits as well as the prospect of earning money.

At the end of the day let's just all agree that everything of excess is bad and should not be condoned, same goes with gambling even if you're winning a fuck ton of money from it.
legendary
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July 26, 2023, 02:44:10 PM
#87
After reading the whole story, I just churkle because I remembered what my grandma used to say to me: "Too much of everything is abuse." and the reason for her saying that to me was after I consumed a large amount of milk and began to vomit and Stooling, I totally fell sick and was hospitalised for almost a week. In relation to what I just said and about your narration and gambling, I would say that too much of everything is abuse. Food can be abused, drugs can be abused, positions can be abused, and many other things can be abused, and there are mostly some of them that you can't do anything about, no matter how hard you try. Can you ask someone who doesn't have a job to stop gambling? Yes, you can, but they will not stop because they are using it as a means of earning income. Although it still also depends on the individual, like I said before, I know of someone who is fully into gambling but is still paying his bills and taking care of his home, but with some other gamblers, it's usually the opposite.
Life has so much to offer that concentrating on a single thing or activity exclusively to the detriment of the rest of them is a mistake, gambling is entertaining for sure but to use it as our sole source of entertainment is shortsighted, however as you said once people reach that point it is almost impossible to convince them to stop, that realization needs to come from within them, and most of the time this only happens once they have lost everything.
legendary
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July 26, 2023, 02:26:36 PM
#86
What is Gambling Abuse?
Gambling abuse is simply defined as gambling with a motive that is different from the real purpose why gambling is in existence.
Let me also say my view on "Gambling Abuse". Gambling Abuse is the process of unfaithful to the casino which is also violating the terms and conditions of the casino. Therefore, many gamblers abuse their gamblings to play fast game.
Op drug abuse is different from gambling Abuse. Drug abuse is the over use of the drugs or use the drug with a doctor prescription. But in gambling Abuse you play a smart game to with the bet or slot.
legendary
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July 26, 2023, 11:19:04 AM
#85
Gambling abuse is simply gambling addiction. Everyone indeed is allowed to play and gamble. Some are financially benefiting from it and some are being entertained from doing so. Gambling for a long period of time within a day does not guarantee abad outcome. What does, is simply instances wherein emotion becomes an innate drive to go for more despite of the situation or circumstances; huge loss. Time after time, either a winning or losing bet, you'd be wanting for more in order to get back with the losses. And once you hit a huge win and have already got back with that amount, you'd be desiring for profit afterwards. Then the unfortunate will again happen, and that would be a cycle. Key player here is our emotion and our discipline with ourselves. Is gambling a dangerous activity? No, it is our intention which is.
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July 26, 2023, 09:47:38 AM
#84
After reading the whole story, I just churkle because I remembered what my grandma used to say to me: "Too much of everything is abuse." and the reason for her saying that to me was after I consumed a large amount of milk and began to vomit and Stooling, I totally fell sick and was hospitalised for almost a week. In relation to what I just said and about your narration and gambling, I would say that too much of everything is abuse. Food can be abused, drugs can be abused, positions can be abused, and many other things can be abused, and there are mostly some of them that you can't do anything about, no matter how hard you try. Can you ask someone who doesn't have a job to stop gambling? Yes, you can, but they will not stop because they are using it as a means of earning income. Although it still also depends on the individual, like I said before, I know of someone who is fully into gambling but is still paying his bills and taking care of his home, but with some other gamblers, it's usually the opposite.
legendary
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July 25, 2023, 09:08:06 AM
#83
Comparing the abuse of a drug like Tramadol with the misuse of gambling, a leisure activity turned addiction, is quite enlightening. Your analogy presents a striking image. But let me throw a spanner into the works here...

It's a bit tricky to categorize gambling as 'abuse' when used outside its entertainment purpose because it becomes subjective. Who determines what entertainment is? How do we categorize risk-taking? After all, people gamble for the thrill, which might also be seen as a source of entertainment for them.

As for prosecuting 'gambling abusers', it opens a whole can of worms. How do we define the threshold of abuse? The problem is not with gambling itself, but the tendency to get addicted and lose control.

So, while I see where you're coming from, the path to 'criminalizing' excessive gambling is fraught with too many uncertainties. It's a Pandora's Box that's perhaps better left unopened...
legendary
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July 25, 2023, 08:43:01 AM
#82

Gambling abuse is not a crime, so nothing like prosecution.
Actually gambling abuse is a crime, almost every organization are built and running using policies or terms and conditions, and if you are a defaulter of the companies terms and conditions or policy you are automatically a culprit, not all culprits are being prosecuted for their crime often times the law enforcers are the ones to surfer the consequences.

I have witnessed a situation whereby an under age( not up to 18) went to a casino hall and was gambling, after a while some cops came in and arrested the manager and its workers for going against the companies policy by approving an under age gambler in the casino, the young gambler was left with advice by the cops but the manager paid severely for compromising.

from the  above experience, gambling abuse is not just subjected to how a gambler spends his finance in gambling, under age gamblers are all abusers.

Abuse and addiction are just the same.
Not all abusers are addicted to gambling vise versa.
Let me tell you something, there is nothing called gambling abuse. You can make use of your search engine for it. What I do see are gambling addiction and problem gambling. Just because I read about gambling abuse first on this thread, there is nothing I can relate it more to than gambling addiction, although there is nothing called gambling abuse, it is wrong.

If you abuse a child, that is called child abuse.
If you abuse drug, that is called drug abuse. Drug addiction.
In gambling, it is just called gambling addiction or problem gambling.

If someone accept underage gambling on your online gambling site or offline based and the person got arrested. You are just away from this discussion and off-topic because what we are discussing is not about underage gambling.
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July 25, 2023, 08:33:14 AM
#81
When they abuse, that also means they are already addicted. That itself is already a punishment for the gamblers who couldn't stop despite losing money.  Some of them may even be trying to rob some things from someone in order to keep up their addiction. This is already a struggle.
True that it is a struggle and right on that if they're abusing things just to gamble and gambling per se, that only means that they can't deny their addiction. That only proves that the addiction on them is stronger than the will to do the right thing of not abusing any means in gambling.

This doesn't need to be argued though. If they turned gambling into their major source of income, it's their choice and we know how it ends to such stories if they don't quit. 
There are many stories of these people only a few have successfully got out of the addiction and gotten back up on their feet to a better life.
It's an endless argument honestly and believe me that there are people that will argue to you just to justify what they are up with their gambling addiction. They will even keep it up until they are left with nothing and that's the hardest part that they can no longer control themselves and at the same time, they've got no face to show to their relatives because of what they're experiencing.
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July 25, 2023, 07:09:14 AM
#80
How Does This Abuse Relate to Gambling?
We all know that gambling is originally meant to act as a means of entertainment, that is, its one of the ways people entertain themselves and in so doing, they stand a chance at winning money..
Today, because of the possibility to win money through gambling, Many gamblers no longer gamble as way of being entertained, but have turned gambling into  their major source of income, this is abuse because gambling was never meant to be a source of income or livelihood to anyone, but rather, another way for players to entertain themselves.
Well my friend the system if things has been revolutionized and gambling is not left out in the revolution. The the current economic hardship people currently facing @op you can agree with me that getting only entertainment from partaking in gambling is not enough and without the aspect of the money involved too gambling would have gone into extinction as people would have fashioned or invented something similar to gambling but delivers beyond just entertainment.

IMO, for the part of abuse it is inevitable what we can do is find ways to curb it's increment among gamblers by counseling them about the negative effect of the attitude.
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July 25, 2023, 06:55:43 AM
#79
People who go beyond entertaining themselves with gambling has abused gambling like you said OP. Gamble abuse is what leads people into addiction and put frustration on them. Whatever act or activities that one can be addicted to,one  should have self-control on it. No one will prosecute a gambler if he is not found going against the casino rules or have cheated the casino. We are in a free world and one can do whatever he likes with his money as long as what he is doing is legal.
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July 25, 2023, 05:40:50 AM
#78
Anything that goes well above the threshold of normal can mean abuse, so gambling isn't really something that's far off from that. There are a lot of people that are 'abusing' their freedom with gambling and ended up racking debts that are obviously not attractive. Moderation and control in everything that we do is the key to not resulting into any "abuse" that will be harmful to us along the way. What simple fun to us could mean a lot of danger in the future if we keep things unchecked.

The problem with everyone is that they would have some kind of addiction and in the end, an addiction always ends in a bad way. You are correct anything above the threshold of normal is considered abuse. The problem is no one would accept that they are abusing themselves with an addiction. Ask a gambler and they would always say they considered themselves as a casual gambler. If everyone is gambling for entertainment then why are they end up in debt? When a gambler starts questioning himself then only they would realize the problem they have got addicted to.
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July 25, 2023, 05:24:55 AM
#77
Today, because of the possibility to win money through gambling, Many gamblers no longer gamble as way of being entertained, but have turned gambling into  their major source of income, this is abuse because gambling was never meant to be a source of income or livelihood to anyone, but rather, another way for players to entertain themselves.
That's the reality because many gamblers are thinking gambling can be a way for them to earn money. So even it is risky and there's no assurance, still, nothing can stop them. Majority of these gamblers are already addicted in gambling due to lack of control, mentally and physically.

On the other side, it's not a crime if you're a compulsive gambler and not necessary to be punished unless you're committing a crime just to sustain your gambling addiction since that's a different thing. Anyway, even it's already given that gambling is a way to entertain ourselves, it's obvious that gamblers can't follow this due to their behavior when playing. So we can't coerce them to only gamble with a desire to have fun if they have no discipline.
legendary
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July 25, 2023, 04:52:15 AM
#76
what do you think about this?
Do you agree that gambling outside what gambling is meant for is abuse on gambling?
nope, I don't agree that using gambling besides for entertainment is abuse. also, I guess we have very different views of "gambling abuse" When I hear gambling abuse the first thing that comes to mind is a person excessively gambling, which is gambling addiction, just like how drug abuse is drug addiction.

If you agree, what do you think should be done to gambling abusers if there was a way to catch them?
Should they be arrested and prosecuted same way drug abusers are arrested and prosecuted if caught?
this is just too much and unnecessary.
legendary
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July 25, 2023, 04:40:57 AM
#75
I think some casinos and third party game providers have figured out, how to make gambling addictive. Take slot technology as an example... the developers figured out that you have to design a "game" that will constantly give small rewards at random to keep the gambler playing for longer..... but if the gambler play long enough, then you can take all their money. (Enable the in-game graph on Stake.com and see the long-term downward spiral when you play slots)  Roll Eyes

They also figured out how to trigger adrenaline release with players, by giving regular "Free Spins" and small "Jackpots" .....and people gets addicted to that adrenaline rush.  Sad
it won't be strange to hear that casinos and third parties use techniques to make gamblers addicted to gambling, don't we know that they provide a place for people to seek pleasure by playing gambling and even they prepare all the games that are easy for people to gamble and can afford to sit for a long time to play, their goal is to earn money from gamblers.

Everyone loves adrenaline as much as I often feel it when gambling and playing but only within the budget that I have provided, not all will become addicts in the end just because of the adrenaline they feel, I play for fun even though I have never won big wins I already know that the casino or the dealer will always win. so there's no need to think about beating them, play and enjoy the game as well as the adrenaline, if you win then stop the game if you lose limit the budget then stop. Healthy mindset will keep us in control. at least not become addicted to gambling
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