Topic: Gambling Abuse ... - page 6. (Read 870 times)

I don't think it's an abuse at that point,... that's just another person's view on how to utilize every privilege they've got to gamble - anyone could decide to use anything the way they want as long as it doesn't affect other people or goes against the government Policies...
I keep saying that nobody enjoys spending unnecessarily... I dunno if there's anyone though buh I believe any sane person shouldn't like weird things..
About the drug? Hmmm, mhan I didn't even stop jerking when you said you normally use them.... As what exactly if I may ask? analgesics??

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You have built a very strange theory in which you have chosen a certain definition of gambling that suits your views. But firstly, other people may have different views, and secondly, if you look historically, then your views are definitely wrong, because initially gambling was based on the desire to win money and only on this. The cultural aspect of "playing just for fun" came much later and not everyone even now follows it. Therefore, I would say that your theory is divorced from reality and it is difficult for me to discuss it.

Well, for me I believe the only way we can say something like gambling abuse is when the person is a minor and when a person is a gambling addict.
Gambling was never made to be the source of income, but it can be "a"source of income even if you're doing it for fun. The fact that it's supposed to be an entertainment doesn't mean it's wrong if you aim to make money from it. Isn't that the goal of gambling? Do you gamble if there is nothing to win?
Different people have different reasons why they gamble, so as far as they gamble responsibly, then it's fine by me.
There's no point policing the motive behind why people gamble or their reason for gambling.

Actually gambling abuse is a crime, almost every organization are built and running using policies or terms and conditions, and if you are a defaulter of the companies terms and conditions or policy you are automatically a culprit, not all culprits are being prosecuted for their crime often times the law enforcers are the ones to surfer the consequences.

I have witnessed a situation whereby an under age( not up to 18) went to a casino hall and was gambling, after a while some cops came in and arrested the manager and its workers for going against the companies policy by approving an under age gambler in the casino, the young gambler was left with advice by the cops but the manager paid severely for compromising.

from the  above experience, gambling abuse is not just subjected to how a gambler spends his finance in gambling, under age gamblers are all abusers.

Not all abusers are addicted to gambling vise versa.

So you or your friend was arguing that there is no such thing as gambling addiction? Seems pretty silly when all sorts of people end up addicted to all sorts of things. The "war on drugs" sounds good and is an easy sell for politicians, but in reality the problem has only gotten much worse since this was started decades ago and proves that it doesn't work. Offering people help and treatment should be the first step, because in the long run it will be much healthier for society and be cheaper than trying to persecute the problem away. Many gamblers end up deep in debt and misery, but do not resort to any sort of illegal behavior in the process, so they should be helped as much as possible.

Very well said, but you realize the tramadol analogy is just an analogy after all, I didn't use it wit a mind of trying to compare the drug to gambling or compare gambling to the drug, from what I know, being addicted to gambling could be more dangerous to some people more than being addicted to the drug, and for others, the revise might be the cause, I personally wont come to the conclusion that either addiction to the drug or addiction to gambling is more dangerous, it all depends on the individual involved, at least, I know a gambler who was addicted to gambling for just two years and later ended his life at the beginning of the third year due to a supposed mistake he made, and having been addicted to tramadol in the past myself, I know a lot of  guys who are addicted to the drug for several years now and still alive and kicking.

While I would agree with the fact that gambling can definitely be abused by people, I don't agree much with the analogy you made. Tramadol while considered a drug, is way more detrimental to people's lives than gambling in my opinion. There are people who certainly threw their lives away through gambling and I only wish these people make it out of the hell hole they subjected themselves into but not only is tramadol life-disrupting, it's also deadly when used in excess.

I would advocate under the same banner as you since I sorely abhor gambling addiction, but at the same time we gotta paint a clear picture to the people we want to send the message out to so they don't mistake/misinterpret what we're trying to say.

Man, you are indeed correct. You forgot to mention another way of getting addicted to tramadol or any other drug that is a pain reliever in general, which is that some youths today get addicted to tramadol not only for its main purpose of taking it. but in which some people may come back from work and when they see that they feel a little headache or very tired and they see that they are experiencing some body pain, instead of these people having a bed rest and sleeping well, they will go and buy tramadol and take it to ease the pain. So you can see that some of these people who are addicted today got these conditions due to their work, and they keep buying these drugs repeatedly, and as a result, now they cannot do with these drugs every day they will be taking it.

I blame someone who uses gambling as a means of making money, which is not what it was intended for. This idea was not initially intended to be a means of support. Something that will wreck your life and cause you to feel bad but some people still utilize it as a means of making money. If they continue to view gambling as a means of making money, I'm sure that these people will experience health problems at last, since they may have a plan for every game to come as they want to help them solve there financial problems.

Everything in excess is a form of an abuse regardless if it's still in line with the purpose or outside it. Earning or profiting from gambling is actually within the scope of how gambling should be, but if you're trying to make gambling as a means of living, that is obviously a form of abuse already because you need to gamble for many hours everyday as if you're in a day job.
But no, you can't arrest these kind of people because it is their money they used to o gamble and it is in their own discretion on which level they would digest the risk associated with gambling. Not unless if they commit crime to obtain some cash to do the gambling, then that obviously is against the law. But gambling excessively with your own money, the law enforcement doesn't really care about it as long you're not doing anything illegal.

First I think we must establish the meaning of gambling abuse in order to discuss the topic correctly.  @OP is somehow in haste to finish the thread failing to give examples and specific meaning of the term so instead of giving a specific example, he just stated a general terms which often confused the readers.  According to the internet gambling abuse is somehow the same as gambling addiction. 

With that we can say that gambling abuse has negative effect to the person because all it can do to the gambler is harm them.  Harm them in a way how gambling addiction works like being pre-occupied by the thought of gambling, uncontrollable urge to gamble, irresponsibility and so on. 

In gambling abuse it is not a matter of being entertain or getting profit from their gambling activity but rather being hooked and get addicted to gambling.

When they abuse, that also means they are already addicted. That itself is already a punishment for the gamblers who couldn't stop despite losing money.  Some of them may even be trying to rob some things from someone in order to keep up their addiction. This is already a struggle.

This doesn't need to be argued though. If they turned gambling into their major source of income, it's their choice and we know how it ends to such stories if they don't quit. 
There are many stories of these people only a few have successfully got out of the addiction and gotten back up on their feet to a better life.

I don't get this question but if it's about abusing gambling with that drug, we don't see what actually is happening from those gamblers that do use it. Any potential abuse that can be seen, some gamblers might tempt to do it.

Give them sanction and help, if they've been abusive because of drugs. What all they need is a rehabilitation. But if it's the actual abuse that they're cheating the casino, they might even go behind bars or total ban on that casino.

Depends on the local law and business law.

Well, it certainly depends on the gamblers perspective towards gambling because I know that most of us (the gamblers) are seeking gambling to make money while entertainment comes in second as that will always follow whenever we are in the middle of our activities, regardless of what games are we playing or if we are inclined to sports betting or luck based games. Abuse for me is the same because it depends on how we interpret that word, and by my words, any excess is already an abuse.

If they don't gamble to make money,what else can people gamble for,I thought the main purpose of gambling is making money,and it is money that people wants to make that makes them always have the urge to gamble,the only people I can say they don't gamble to make money are people who are financially stable,and according to scientist,human want are insatiable,that is to say even people that already have money still needs money, therefore,anybody can gamble,and the main purpose is to make money.
Now people who abuse gambling to me are the once who even when they don't have the money to gamble,they still borrow,steal,become debtors because they just want to gamble,and even after borrowing money,they will still loose the money.Every gambler who gambles on credit have abused gambling to me.

If we really take gambling as our source of income or we think that this could be a good for passive income then I think it will be an abuse of course, first of all it is made for people's entertainment so when things are beyond our control and it started to ruin our lives then it will be an abuse and become and addiction like in meds. Some meds are prescribe and regulated for use because it can cause addiction just like in gambling.

In my opinion, gambling abuse can lead to many serious issues starting with depression and potentially escalating to the point where the gambler might consider suicide. Therefore I believe casinos should take this matter very seriously and closely monitor gamblers' bets and activities to prevent such incidents from occurring.

Gambling should exist for entertainment purposes rather than solely being viewed as a source of income, it can never be a reliable source of income due to its high risks, and one can never be sure whether they will win or lose imo.

I agree with you Gozie51 on the fact that there is no ratio to determine the rate of gambling abuse and what statistics to stand with that make a stamp to be called gambling abuse,  and if you look closely,  it is subjective and peculiar to individuals perception of what make an abuse d activities in gambling,  because what may look normal to you can be branded as an abuse by another person,  same thing with every other activity that requires human satisfaction and grading.

Gambling abuse can mean different things for different people,  but in general,  taking gambling as a means of making income is a bad idea in whatever content you try to view it,  so if you defeat the main purpose of gambling which is for entertainment and dive over into making gambling a means to generate passive income,  at that point you have lost track and you can easily slide into many other negative factors.

I totally understand your analogy between the medicine usage and gambling practice and I think it makes sense. And I would add that the medicine and gambling aren't bad or good, they are simply neutral tools people can make use of. If the consequences are going to be positive or negative, it will depend on how those people are using each of them. Therefore, gambling or medicines shouldn't be forbidden, rather people should be educated on how to use each of them for the right purposes, in a healthy way that will benefit them after all.

Gamblers who cheat should be punished accordingly to the laws defined by the casino and local regulators, the same way drugs users are.

I believe the OP is just making a comparison here. Drug abusers are getting punished.
And when it comes to gambling abusers, they are also getting penalties from the site they abused with.
This is easier for online gambling sites as they will have a record how a certain player will abuse the services of the site.
Just take for example, those sign-up bonuses or free coins. The site itself can have their own security features to fight with abusers.
If not, they have their security team flagging down account of those abusers. So in a way, those who are caught of abusing the system will receive the penalties from the site according to what is stated from their terms and conditions, depending on what kind of violation that a player committed.

If you interpret gambling abuse, then there are many types of abuse that are rife and it all depends on each of us' point of view.
Some countries also have strict prohibitions against gambling activities and are regulated by the laws of that country.
Like the country where I live also prohibits the practice of gambling and anyone who is caught will be subject to imprisonment and a fine of a certain amount of money.
Even so, there are still many gamblers in my country who gamble using online gambling sites to avoid being caught by the authorities.