Topic: Gambling Abuse ... - page 7. (Read 1008 times)

It is risky to consider gambling as the main income, because it will not provide the desired income. There will be some defeats that we don't want at gambling. Remember that gambling only relies on luck, unless you bet on sports gambling which can do some player analysis. But in general gambling is influenced by luck. Make gambling as entertainment, so it won't be burdensome, if used as the main income then there will be many losses that can be obtained.

How does this gambling abuse relate to drug abuse? I fail to see the connection somehow. I don't know any gamblers who turned to drugs because they failed in gambling.
Whether and how they should be prosecuted depends on the harm done by them. If they cheated in a game resulted in small loss for a casino, they should be treated like system testers or hackers. They did not cost the casino a lot of money and in return showed a loophole in the system.

About the punishment, each casino has their own ways to determine whether a gambler is abusing them or not. And for those that have been abusing gambling, I think it is the other way.

They're being abused because they don't know that they already have been. It's not a matter though but in terms of taking dosages and drugs, it's not just all about gambling but also their mental health.

Honestly, I've just heard of this drug for the first time.

I have to ask if he is harming others by using gambling as an abuse? If not, then he himself will be responsible.
It is not our authority but the police who will determine whether gambling is prohibited or not, if it is prohibited then it is likely that the police will arrest him.
I feel that if it harms others, in the sense of robbery, deprivation etc. then it should be prosecuted, but there are also gamblers as fun but we do not determine which attitude is correct.

Tramadol is an oppiate. I will suggest to read some about this class of medicine...

If a gambler is able to earn, "making a living" from this activity... let's go ahead! well done! he has found a job and no one should judge and I can't see any abuse....

How many people are really able to reach such level? How many people are able to made this job for several years?

There is nothing that needs to be done, because in the first place the individual chooses how to deal with gambling on his own, just like someone who takes these drugs and abuses them. Gambling and drug addicts are none other than clear examples where self-control does not start from other people but oneself.

back to government regulations that prohibit gambling but that doesn't mean those regulations apply to actually prevent it. For example, we know that drug abusers are arrested and put on trial, but did you know that it's not the roots who are being arrested, but just a group of criminals who have the status of addiction? his drug dealers continue to roam instead of standing behind the institution to be part of the game. Likewise with the cases of gamblers who were arrested, only those who were addicted, while the casino dealers continued to operate.

Anything that exceeds is considered abuse and abuse in gambling can be considered dangerous to finances and mental health, they should not be arrested they are not harming anyone but themselves unless they are stealing to gamble, I prefer to call them victims because if they are in the right mind they will not do something that will harm themselves and their love ones but they lose their capability to think correctly because of their addiction to gambling.

Those who fall into gambling abuse should be rehabilitated, it's not a crime to be addicted to gambling, and their relatives and the authorities should help them to get cured and restore their right mental health

I can still understand if some gambler think gambling is one of side hustle, but if the gambler think gambling is a major source of income, this is really impossible. Major source of income need to be stable and pays well, while earning through gambling is never been stable and pays well is depend on your luck. Maybe yesterday you've hit 1,000x multiply, but you might have gamble for 30 days in a row and never hit 1,000x.

The purpose of gambling like we are trying to discuss is actually subjective as the responses have suggested with individuals different views. So likewise gambling "abuse", like is there any standard for gambling abuse when the law did not make it so. I think abuse is what you feel having negative effect on you or other person that at the extreme might cause loss of life. Drug abuse might have direct cause to death because drug is a substance going inside your body and might harm your health but a gambler may become an addict and it effect needs an extraneous support or contribution if death will ever occur.

I am very familiar with these types of drugs. from what you said, that's absolutely true. the phenomenon of abuse of certain types of drugs is not something foreign to us. I'm pretty sure, in almost every country there is always something called abuse as you say. but actually, there are many types of abuse that occur with various cases, not just the tramadol phenomenon.
IMO, to be honest, the phenomena that occur in your country cannot be separated from a weak government system. we can discuss it, even from a political and corruption perspective. it's just that our discussion is gambling, so we return to the theme of gambling.

Speaking of gambling, we agree that most of the history of gambling on this earth is intended as a means of entertainment for its people. starting from traditional gambling, until it's time to develop to be as sophisticated as it is today. it's just that, what you say we can't really generalize. why, because every person/gambler has different intentions from one another. to me, there is no such thing as the Abuse of gambling. this is definitely different from the comparison you said in this thread. remember gambling is not a type of drug, even those that are prohibited from circulating freely.

Gambling is designed as a means of entertainment, but each user is free to express himself in gambling itself. either those whose goal is just for fun, or those who are serious about making a major income from gambling. the point is, one must know what he is doing from his gambling. whatever the reason, there is no problem with it. The important thing is, one realizes that gambling also carries risks. the most common risk, experiencing defeat.  the risk of not having a good impact, a person becomes a gambling addict. psychologically, humans have their own understanding, will, and how they think. So, the point is there is no such thing as Abuse of gambling IMO. unless, a gambler commits fraud.

I don't think this is true, the sole purpose of gambling is not entertainment. First of all casinos that offer us the opportunity to gamble are private businesses, they need to turn a profit to keep operating, otherwise they go bankrupt. The main purpose of the casino is to make a profit, they need more people to lose at their games than there are winners. An entertainment companies focus is to make the customers happy, a casino is trying to take our money. For the customers it's something different, they want to have a good time and the chance to become rich. It's true that most people feel excitement when playing with money and also feel a rush of happiness when winning, I don't think the majority of gamblers look at it for income. Among my friends nobody would quit their regular job and start gambling as their new profession. At least for me gambling can't be a reliable source of income, I don't have the skills to make enough profit each month to pay all my bills.

To me I think is pure entertainment for me and aside from that one I caution myself very well from being an addict, once it gets to the level of addiction you start spending serious money but once it is for fun it pays, how hilarious bro have you placed a bet and see the potential win you will be triggered to play continuous, looking at the fact that money is involved, and like you said once you really in need of money, you start imaging different means of getting money and you start spending money you don't have in your head, and the bad condition of the economy has made people hunting for money by all means.

Gambling was designed for two major reasons which are entertainment and profit making. To me, gambling to gain some financial benefit is not gambling abuse but relying on it as a major source of income is where the problem is. We indeed gamble because of fun but we all also want to win and make some good money. Gambling has made some people very rich.

Furthermore, gambling abuse is the inability to control your gambling activities which leads to financial, health, or even family problems. When a man is using almost all his earnings to gamble and leaving his family to suffer from want, he is abusing gambling. When you fail to engage in productive ventures and spend all your time analyzing and forecasting games, you are a gamble abuser. If your gambling activity is affecting your health because you are gambling more than your capacity, you are abusing gambling. When you get to the extent of selling personal properties or borrowing to gamble, you need help.

Gambling addiction or abuse is not a crime in my country. If you like you can gamble with your life, you are not braking any law. Maybe it is illegal in some other country and the law will contain sanctions for that. To me, gambling abusers should have their finance controlled by their spouse or a financial administrator until they show signs of self-control.

Maybe gambling beyond what is meant by gambling is abuse because people cannot use gambling as entertainment. Those who want to use gambling as a place to make money are already abusing the purpose of gambling itself. But they don't need to be caught and tried because it depends on their purpose for gambling. And if they lose a lot in gambling, it is their own fault because no one told them to continue gambling and spend a lot of money.

Fivestar4everMVP well the tree is not the responsibility of the community to cut it off since it hacks become  a bigger problem for the society, because the tree was not a community tree but planted by an individual in the community, and since this individual have failed to trime the tree to the extent of it becoming a problem to the society he has to face some charges, but if you are in a society where laws are ineffective, you have to beer with such problems for some time.

But on the other end where you'rementioned how to tackle problems I 100% agree with you that taking care of a problem is like ending the menace the tree was causing since the tree has become a public problem it was supposed to be caught by the root since caught off some branches is like paving the way for the tree to spread wider it branches and also making it to become a bigger problem.

So also we can relate this to gambling abuse which is the main discussion,  since gambling exhibited higher risk in everything, one needs to put a lot of things in check, so as not to become overly carried away to the point that you either abuse the casinos or yourself by getting addicted or lose a lot of money.

I don't know how someone can gamble outside the act of gambling or what gambling is not meant for. If you bet your money or have staked it in gambling then you are gambling. Unlike the tramadol scenario you made which is quite understable. However, but if patients were to be relieved by tramadol on their pain and some people are also using it as hard drugs to get intoxicated, it means the drug has more than one purpose unlike gambling whose purpose could be more than one, entertainment and profit.


If you gamble in a country where gambling is illegal then you have committed a crime and could be arrested likewise drugs, otherwise no arrest will be made.


Tramadol I think have different effect on different people. It could be intoxicating some people and giving them energy but for others it could bring them down, weak and make them have lesser strength.

Gamblers are most likely entertained when they are winning their bet rather than playing the game itself and also there are some gamblers there that see their winning and will gonna give them some boost to show off. This will also trigger some excitement which will make them go every night or every time they got money to play the games. Most of the people who became addicted thought it was just for mere entertainment and they know to themselves they were playing with the only money they have and when they woke up from reality, it was all over they lose everything they have.

If we go by your analogy, i could liken your statement to someone who planted a tree, and at some point, that tree becomes a problem to him and the society, and the society was supposed to put that tree to death so it doesn't cause problems for them anymore, and the society do instead is to cut of the branches of that tree, and assume it will die that way, and after some months, they discover the problem is still there, then check the tree and discovered that the tree is not dead, but rather have grown new branches, then instead of uprooting the tree from its root to put a permanent stop to the problem, they still went on to cut the branches again instead.

To put an end to problems, we tackle them from their root cause, when someone gambles until he or she turns into a criminal, while sending that person to jail, teach the ones that are onlooking how to gamble responsibly, else, in a few years, you will have to send many young lads to jail believing they just have a habit stealing, meanwhile the root cause of their stealing is due to gambling abuse, irresponsible gambling, due to lack of gambling education.

I wouldn't really call it an abuse of gambling. They just use it as an excuse (even if they don't see it as such), so that they can escape most of their problems (or solve them if they're really lucky). It can technically be called abuse, but a lot of things can be used all the same really.
I mean, they're dead, I don't think there's much we can do about it. And even if we do try to preempt by taking action, everything is only based on "assumptions". And technically the police force or casino staff can't make a move based on such a thing. It's basically the same thing with drug abusers, in most cases, their states are already far too in before people can even notice and stop it.

The key idea to do here is to prevent said situation from happening in the first place, and it doesn't stem from gambling, no. It usually stems from the influences in the environment, from your parents, friends, advertisements, the internet, etc., and that would be a too big of a thing to influence, so most people really just ignore it, not that they don't care though, they can't just do anything with a single persons influence.

Gambling is entertainment that's the way to look at gambling platforms if you see gambling platforms as a way to make money then its abuse, you will deposit more than you can, extend your playing time and even if you are not in a gambling platform all you're thinking is how to beat the house.
Responsible gaming is when you log off everything about gambling should be forgotten, but if you let it hang on then gambling is taking over your mind and your action so it becomes abuse, when you are past your limitation that's where abuse starts.