Topic: Gambling addiction causing victim to scam his family - page 2. (Read 2058 times)

Quote from: AakZaki on June 01, 2022, 08:35:28 PM

Such person is really need a professional to take care of him, I'd say beggars are more better than gambling addicts because beggars didn't make anyone got harm from his action, they only need money to buy foods, if not they will eat from leftover foods. If gambling addict can't change his mind and become more realistic to manage his money and his action, he could be lunatic/insane person.

Begging is not a good choice either, some people don't just depend on it for food, there are places in the other parts of the world that carry begging as business, some have used begging to cash out to buy cars, you see how lucrative the business is right.
About a gambler being addicted person as insane is sometimes through, the way they do things makes me think their behaviours are not like that of a normal person, I mean who goes back to something after losing a lot of money and ignores all advice.

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when addiction surrounds your whole mindsets, stealing, robberies, lending and scamming are part of what people can do.
Gambling addicted person is so desperate to find ways to produce money to continue these vices, they are no longer afraid of any consequence, they just wanted to please the lust inside their minds.

It's an effect that happens to people who don't control themselves. I think not everyone has such a problem even if they gamble. It all depends on how they control themselves and their financial management. It will be very difficult for people who have had bad behaviors like the ones you tell me about. They will be difficult to heal, it may be that they will be crazy. Perhaps one way is to be taken to a soul master, although it takes a little time.

I do not agree with what Pamadar says. Problem gamblers are different from those who are hooked on heroin or crack cocaine. They don't get to the point of stealing, for example, because gambling doesn't give physical addiction. People hooked on gambling may engage in destructive behaviors such as borrowing money to keep gambling, but they don't go around mugging people on the street like people addicted to certain drugs do because their body is asking for the fix.

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when addiction surrounds your whole mindsets, stealing, robberies, lending and scamming are part of what people can do.
Gambling addicted person is so desperate to find ways to produce money to continue these vices, they are no longer afraid of any consequence, they just wanted to please the lust inside their minds.

It's an effect that happens to people who don't control themselves. I think not everyone has such a problem even if they gamble. It all depends on how they control themselves and their financial management. It will be very difficult for people who have had bad behaviors like the ones you tell me about. They will be difficult to heal, it may be that they will be crazy. Perhaps one way is to be taken to a soul master, although it takes a little time.

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Quote from: livingfree on May 31, 2022, 05:13:30 AM

It's because they've got their mindset looking only into gambling and they don't think of the setback that choice they choose.

The emotion crumbles as they force what they want to happen even it will be a big risk that will not just include them but also their family.

It's actually worrying when a gambler goes up to that point and he hears none that gives feedback to his actions as he only listens to himself and with no one.

those are already deep in their gambling activities. just like any vice, if a person is already addicted to it, their logic reasoning is already outside the window. so if you are a gambler and you feel that you are heading to possible addiction, you need to contemplate of what's going on with your life before it is too late to pull back from this addiction. this is the reason why many are looking at gambling on a negative aspect because of what they are seeing to the people who are gambling addicts.

But it's gonna be hard to accept that a gambler is already on that point.

The denial part is way longer than what we can imagine because that's how they're doing it and not thinking that they're already on that point even the signs are clear.

Well, it's a matter of acceptance on their end and they will only do that when it's too late and the damage has already been done and there goes the regret.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on June 01, 2022, 01:50:36 PM

Quote from: dunfida on June 01, 2022, 09:43:45 AM

So,its better to stop yourself midway if you are aware that you are on the verge of addiction or something that connects out on possible bad scenarios or outcomes when you do make yourself get addicted
and able to commit out those kind of mistakes or crimes just because you are really that aiming to play even more.

It isn't easy for a player to stop themselves when they are on the verge of addiction unless they have a strong will and some self-discipline. I think it is better to get have a medical check-up on gambling addiction, this way doctors can prescribe medication that will help them control the urge for gambling.

Its not really an easy situation because once you do get yourself addicted with gambling then there's no way that you could really get away from it easily unless if you do make yourself realized on midway
but its just on rare case that someone could able to do so because usually people wouldnt really tend nor care to listen up on others suggestion and advises but rather ignore them and just continue
on things that they would do as long they do have that gambling intent into their mind then its really almost impossible for them to be completely stopped or something in related
in such situation.

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Quote from: dunfida on June 01, 2022, 09:43:45 AM

So,its better to stop yourself midway if you are aware that you are on the verge of addiction or something that connects out on possible bad scenarios or outcomes when you do make yourself get addicted
and able to commit out those kind of mistakes or crimes just because you are really that aiming to play even more.

It isn't easy for a player to stop themselves when they are on the verge of addiction unless they have a strong will and some self-discipline. I think it is better to get have a medical check-up on gambling addiction, this way doctors can prescribe medication that will help them control the urge for gambling.

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Quote from: alegotardo on June 01, 2022, 08:33:04 AM

Quote from: Nasuhalugu on May 25, 2022, 04:04:26 AM

Such person is really need a professional to take care of him, I'd say beggars are more better than gambling addicts because beggars didn't make anyone got harm from his action, they only need money to buy foods, if not they will eat from leftover foods. If gambling addict can't change his mind and become more realistic to manage his money and his action, he could be lunatic/insane person.

it depends... there are many beggars who have found a way out of the cruel world in which they live in drugs.
So a beggar can also be an addict and do bad things to other people to maintain his addiction.
But I agree with you about the need for someone to take care of these people, and in the case of gambling addiction, the first help needs to come from the family, because it is surely he who will notice the first signs that something is not right.

I think this is a failed comparison as beggars and gamblers are worlds apart from each other.

Beggars always have that potential of becoming potential criminals due to the nature of their circumstances- they have no food and rely on alms to at least eat one or twice a day (not to discriminate all beggars). Though gamblers also have that potential, they are at less risk of evolving into one since their situation can be remedied IF (emphasized on IF) they change their habits and ways.

Unlike beggars, the only way to remedy their situation is having a good foundational education and get a stable job.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 24, 2022, 11:36:05 PM

Quote from: dunfida on May 19, 2022, 10:08:49 AM

Quote from: fiulpro on May 18, 2022, 01:41:18 PM

What do you think who was in the wrong ?
I think both the bettor and the Boyle Sports were in the wrong.

Both are indeed wrong but there's no law that could really make out immediate or proper action specially if there would no agreements involved like "self-exclusions" which the user had made out some
request for him not to recieve any mails in related with promotions because its totally irresponsible or mistake if they do still sent out despite of such condition or scenario.

As a gambling addict then you could do sort of things which it would be mainly affecting on people around you even with your own family which you could really be
able to scam out specially if you dont have money to spent through gambling.

You are absolutely right, in addiction to games it is very easy to lose control and in less than expected you can see problems with the same family, because what the player wants is to have a lot of money to continue playing because according to him, he has the secret to win, and it is not like that, it is his own addiction, in a tv program I saw as a professional person, a lawyer got his family into trouble, he got into debt and used his parents and siblings to having a lot of money and betting it, of course he lost everything, and when he felt bad he wanted to kill himself, it was because of his brother that he prevented it, however they took him to a clinic and they saved him, because he was poisoned.

I have friends who are addicted to games, every day they only focus on playing games and if there is no money they will borrow money from friends and relatives just to be able to play games. People who are addicted to games will no longer focus on work, if for younger students they often skip school and can no longer focus on studying because they are addicted to games.

Is that this is the danger, because the family and friends the day they have no money, what are those game addicts going to do? if they don't get the way to play they go into crisis and I think they could do whatever it takes to continue playing and this is something that sometimes they can't control themselves, for me the first step is to go to a good psychologist and accept what they have a problem, that they need to do something urgent because that addiction will cause their life to fade away and cause problems that can be irreversible, some of them can even lead to death.

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Quote from: dunfida on May 31, 2022, 05:27:53 PM

Quote from: livingfree on May 31, 2022, 05:13:30 AM

Quote from: alegotardo on June 01, 2022, 08:33:04 AM

people today will not want to change without a big disaster that befell them and their surroundings (family or friends). There have been many cases where gamblers sold family assets just to gamble and lost. This is really worrying because when this disaster happens, people will definitely stay away from that person

It's because they've got their mindset looking only into gambling and they don't think of the setback that choice they choose.

The emotion crumbles as they force what they want to happen even it will be a big risk that will not just include them but also their family.

It's actually worrying when a gambler goes up to that point and he hears none that gives feedback to his actions as he only listens to himself and with no one.

those are already deep in their gambling activities. just like any vice, if a person is already addicted to it, their logic reasoning is already outside the window. so if you are a gambler and you feel that you are heading to possible addiction, you need to contemplate of what's going on with your life before it is too late to pull back from this addiction.

Self control and discipline would be the key because not all people would really be having a good control towards self and not really minding about the possible situations that they might faced up ahead if they would

tolerate such addiction which we know that this is something that could really mess up your entire life but if you dont really care or just simply ignoring it then accept the consequences later on.

Scamming or affecting people around is something very common for a gambling addict to commit on.

Common effects of people who are already out of control for being a gambler, the kind of bad effects

when addiction surrounds your whole mindsets, stealing, robberies, lending and scamming are part of what people can do.
Gambling addicted person is so desperate to find ways to produce money to continue these vices, they are no longer afraid of any consequence, they just wanted to please the lust inside their minds.

So,its better to stop yourself midway if you are aware that you are on the verge of addiction or something that connects out on possible bad scenarios or outcomes when you do make yourself get addicted

and able to commit out those kind of mistakes or crimes just because you are really that aiming to play even more.It is really just normal for a human to find other sources on where he could possibly get.
Any forms of addiction would really be having that kind of outcome if it goes severe and people do only make learning when everything is already been messed up.

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Such person is really need a professional to take care of him, I'd say beggars are more better than gambling addicts because beggars didn't make anyone got harm from his action, they only need money to buy foods, if not they will eat from leftover foods. If gambling addict can't change his mind and become more realistic to manage his money and his action, he could be lunatic/insane person.

it depends... there are many beggars who have found a way out of the cruel world in which they live in drugs.
So a beggar can also be an addict and do bad things to other people to maintain his addiction.
But I agree with you about the need for someone to take care of these people, and in the case of gambling addiction, the first help needs to come from the family, because it is surely he who will notice the first signs that something is not right.

The problem is if this says beggars it will be very difficult to happen. I don't know what it's like in your country but for my country most of these beggars don't have many families and indeed often group together and like to make groups with each other and of course this is not a good choice if it is to remind each other.
Even though not all of them are like that, most of them do take shortcuts like this, but only a few are successful and even count the fingers and the rest end up badly and are addicted

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Such person is really need a professional to take care of him, I'd say beggars are more better than gambling addicts because beggars didn't make anyone got harm from his action, they only need money to buy foods, if not they will eat from leftover foods. If gambling addict can't change his mind and become more realistic to manage his money and his action, he could be lunatic/insane person.

it depends... there are many beggars who have found a way out of the cruel world in which they live in drugs.
So a beggar can also be an addict and do bad things to other people to maintain his addiction.
But I agree with you about the need for someone to take care of these people, and in the case of gambling addiction, the first help needs to come from the family, because it is surely he who will notice the first signs that something is not right.

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Common effects of people who are already out of control for being a gambler, the kind of bad effects

when addiction surrounds your whole mindsets, stealing, robberies, lending and scamming are part of what people can do.
Gambling addicted person is so desperate to find ways to produce money to continue these vices, they are no longer afraid of any consequence, they just wanted to please the lust inside their minds.

Such person is really need a professional to take care of him, I'd say beggars are more better than gambling addicts because beggars didn't make anyone got harm from his action, they only need money to buy foods, if not they will eat from leftover foods. If gambling addict can't change his mind and become more realistic to manage his money and his action, he could be lunatic/insane person.

That's the reason there are countries that prohibit gambling, they don't want their citizens to get a lot of criminal cases due to gambling. In fact, countries that legalize gambling also have rules for gambling itself which in essence, they really don't want underage children to know about gambling because they don't have control. Meanwhile, gambling addicts are old players but not all gambling addicts have the awareness to control themselves, this is what makes them commit criminal acts that are very detrimental to people around them, especially to their own families.

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Quote from: dunfida on May 31, 2022, 05:27:53 PM

Common effects of people who are already out of control for being a gambler, the kind of bad effects

when addiction surrounds your whole mindsets, stealing, robberies, lending and scamming are part of what people can do.
Gambling addicted person is so desperate to find ways to produce money to continue these vices, they are no longer afraid of any consequence, they just wanted to please the lust inside their minds.

Such person is really need a professional to take care of him, I'd say beggars are more better than gambling addicts because beggars didn't make anyone got harm from his action, they only need money to buy foods, if not they will eat from leftover foods. If gambling addict can't change his mind and become more realistic to manage his money and his action, he could be lunatic/insane person.

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Quote from: livingfree on May 31, 2022, 05:13:30 AM

people today will not want to change without a big disaster that befell them and their surroundings (family or friends). There have been many cases where gamblers sold family assets just to gamble and lost. This is really worrying because when this disaster happens, people will definitely stay away from that person

It's because they've got their mindset looking only into gambling and they don't think of the setback that choice they choose.

The emotion crumbles as they force what they want to happen even it will be a big risk that will not just include them but also their family.

It's actually worrying when a gambler goes up to that point and he hears none that gives feedback to his actions as he only listens to himself and with no one.

those are already deep in their gambling activities. just like any vice, if a person is already addicted to it, their logic reasoning is already outside the window. so if you are a gambler and you feel that you are heading to possible addiction, you need to contemplate of what's going on with your life before it is too late to pull back from this addiction.

Self control and discipline would be the key because not all people would really be having a good control towards self and not really minding about the possible situations that they might faced up ahead if they would

tolerate such addiction which we know that this is something that could really mess up your entire life but if you dont really care or just simply ignoring it then accept the consequences later on.

Scamming or affecting people around is something very common for a gambling addict to commit on.

Common effects of people who are already out of control for being a gambler, the kind of bad effects

when addiction surrounds your whole mindsets, stealing, robberies, lending and scamming are part of what people can do.
Gambling addicted person is so desperate to find ways to produce money to continue these vices, they are no longer afraid of any consequence, they just wanted to please the lust inside their minds.

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Quote from: livingfree on May 31, 2022, 05:13:30 AM

Quote from: livingfree on May 31, 2022, 05:13:30 AM

people today will not want to change without a big disaster that befell them and their surroundings (family or friends). There have been many cases where gamblers sold family assets just to gamble and lost. This is really worrying because when this disaster happens, people will definitely stay away from that person

It's because they've got their mindset looking only into gambling and they don't think of the setback that choice they choose.

The emotion crumbles as they force what they want to happen even it will be a big risk that will not just include them but also their family.

It's actually worrying when a gambler goes up to that point and he hears none that gives feedback to his actions as he only listens to himself and with no one.

those are already deep in their gambling activities. just like any vice, if a person is already addicted to it, their logic reasoning is already outside the window. so if you are a gambler and you feel that you are heading to possible addiction, you need to contemplate of what's going on with your life before it is too late to pull back from this addiction.

Self control and discipline would be the key because not all people would really be having a good control towards self and not really minding about the possible situations that they might faced up ahead if they would

tolerate such addiction which we know that this is something that could really mess up your entire life but if you dont really care or just simply ignoring it then accept the consequences later on.

Scamming or affecting people around is something very common for a gambling addict to commit on.

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Quote from: dezoel on May 29, 2022, 12:15:46 PM

people today will not want to change without a big disaster that befell them and their surroundings (family or friends). There have been many cases where gamblers sold family assets just to gamble and lost. This is really worrying because when this disaster happens, people will definitely stay away from that person

It's because they've got their mindset looking only into gambling and they don't think of the setback that choice they choose.

The emotion crumbles as they force what they want to happen even it will be a big risk that will not just include them but also their family.

It's actually worrying when a gambler goes up to that point and he hears none that gives feedback to his actions as he only listens to himself and with no one.

those are already deep in their gambling activities. just like any vice, if a person is already addicted to it, their logic reasoning is already outside the window. so if you are a gambler and you feel that you are heading to possible addiction, you need to contemplate of what's going on with your life before it is too late to pull back from this addiction. this is the reason why many are looking at gambling on a negative aspect because of what they are seeing to the people who are gambling addicts.

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In my neighbourhood, I have seen a guy selling his parent's house and gambling away all the funds gathered and obviously lost them all. Even worst his parents were struggling with some health issues and when they came to know about it, their son had suicided already in guilt and pressure from his friends for the payment of the remaining amount. Somehow everyone in the society came forward and helped but I can't even share the kind of emotions everyone went through, even though most of us didn't even know what exactly happened.

Gambling addiction sucks. Period. But, gambling itself isn't the problem it's the excessive gambling and the mentality that sucks and makes gambling look like such a bad thing. It's the same with alcohol and tobacco, you consume once in a while and you're fine (most likely) but if you repeat and make it your addiction, you will be in trouble tomorrow if not today.

Stories similar to that happen very frequently among those which are addicted to gambling, however their compulsive behavior is to blame because if they did not got addicted to gambling then they would have gotten addicted to something else and go through similar results, people need to accept gambling for what it is, which is a form of entertainment and stop thinking about the possibility of making a living through gambling as that is something almost impossible to do.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on May 31, 2022, 04:06:42 AM

Trust will be lost from the people around because of bad behavior, people who are addicted to gambling will always think about how to get easy money. The family can only persuade them to stop gambling because they do not want their family members to go the wrong way, without the desire to stop gambling, the advice of the family will be in vain.
The impact of bad behavior makes gambling addicts will be ostracized, both in their family and closest friends. Anyone will not easily trust someone who has not left a bad habit, because it will make them feel used with sweet words from the mouth of a gambling addict.

No matter how much we support gambling it bring with it bad things. The story OP is narrating is not the first nor the last one. There are scores of such stories, in my view gambling is fine as long as you have control over yourself. Once you got addiction of gambling, you can't control yourself and you will end up destroying yourself.

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