Gambling addiction causing victim to scam his family - page 7.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on May 21, 2022, 08:16:48 AM

The gambling business has a very tough competition so what Boyle Sport did was not entirely a mistake, it was their trick to attract users to keep using their platform

Its not new actually because many casinos has similar strategy to keep the gamblers playing on their platform. Im also receiving mails from these gambling sites offering their promotion or bonuses to attract me. But im not the type who will bite the offer without thinking because its important that we have control.

Quote from: Tumanggor on May 21, 2022, 08:16:48 AM

I said it was bad luck because he (the victim) couldn't control himself to gamble when he found the email in his inbox. all things (bad or good) that happen to us are purely the fault of personal decision making, external causes have only a minor role imo

Indeed. The gambler itself is the one driving his life hence it happened because its his choice. If you became addicted its your fault for not limiting yourself and worse you scammed your family just to feed your addiction.

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Quote from: fiulpro on May 18, 2022, 01:41:18 PM

Here is the article: https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40875731.html
Apparently Boyle Sports manipulated a man is a very sad way where he ended up loosing all the money he scammed from a family member.

He must prove to the court that the manipulation existed and he is targeted and it's not a system error or glitch all the other casinos experienced malfunction like this, it's on the server or email provider if they subscribed to one.

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The man had problems with Gambling and he tried to stop by closing the account on the website and at the end of the day they saw him stopping but kept sending him mails and at the same time, they apparently sent him a 50$ free betting which at the end ending up to be awful for him since he started it again and ended up loosing all the fortune.

Closing his account will not stop him from gambling he can still play on the other casinos the symptoms and addiction is still there it will not go away by just closing a gambling account

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The whole things is extremely complex like Some Sherlock Holmes story. The person was not infact gullible since to fuel his gambling addiction he scammed his family member and then went to court and pleaded guilty as well blamed it all on the Boyle Sports.
What do you think who was in the wrong ?

Obviously, the guy is the one who scams, the casino has nothing to do with his action, they act as a casino and we all know that they have disclaimers and warnings, this will save them for any future case.

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Like this things should be avoided by the players in gambling. The gamblers should give 80 percentage of money to their family, which depends on him. Rest 15-20 percentage can be spend on your own. It can be used for the gambling or for your enjoyment. Because the risk taking can be happened using the extra money. You can also use the money for your luxuries dresses .

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on May 21, 2022, 07:31:58 AM

I feel bad for the family because the family didn't gambling addicts, but they got a consequence from the addict. I believe the family already warn him to not gambling and ask him to seek a professional, but due to his greediness he didn't care anything including his family. I think it's better if the family kick the addict, so they wouldn't get any problem from this man.

^ Rehabilitation is the best answer to this, anxiety becomes a trigger of greediness and greediness will trigger to commit crimes.
Gambling addictions are not that easy to cure, they will heal in just a matter of time and probably in the rehabilitation center gambling addicts will forget what is the cause of their addiction. Kicking is not a solution, whatever happens, still, that is your bloodline, your family, the only way is to cure him and stop him from his addiction.

I do agree with you that rehabilitation may be the way in order to combat addiction.

Unfortunately, the only way to combat any type of addiction are rehab and constant support from their peers. You have to constantly reassure them that you will always be supporting their new ways in order for them to fully realize their mistake. Helping them coping with their addiction is one thing, but true realization from the addict himself is another.

You really have to create an environment that will at least help them reduce the chance of any relapse and be understanding also at the moment because addiction is a sickness that must be treated as soon as possible.

Before going into some rehab decision then it would be better if that addicted someone should really be accepting and realizing on the mistakes that he had done because we know that
professional services isnt something cheap for most people but for those who had money then they wont really be bothering themselves on getting one specially on a family which does have
good status in terms of finances. Your family is the main people who could really help you if you wont able to help yourself in the first place but its sad that you wont really be
giving out exemptions on who would you gonna stole funds with. lol

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on May 21, 2022, 11:00:14 AM

Gambling has a very negative impact when the gambler is not able to control his urge not to gamble all the time. Everyone might hope that no gambler ends up in a lot of trouble especially if they are just betting for fun, but actually it gets out of hand when winning money is the goal.

I completely agree about some sites giving warnings to their customers to gamble responsibly, that is one thing that might be a good thing for any casino to consider for its customers. It's true that ultimately self-control and finances become difficult, but the casino is not to blame. We must take responsibility for all the decisions we make and accept the consequences. I think one of the impacts of irresponsible gambling cases is the one being discussed by the OP.

We as customers must know all about what we are responsible for and gambling is definitely an addiction, but if it is all under control then it will not cause a big negative because we can control and know the responsibilities that are being carried out.

There have been many victims, now more and more problems are from gambling because I always see the news that gambling always has fatal consequences if it is not controlled, but indeed the casino has warned so it is all our responsibility.

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Gambling has a very negative impact when the gambler is not able to control his urge not to gamble all the time. Everyone might hope that no gambler ends up in a lot of trouble especially if they are just betting for fun, but actually it gets out of hand when winning money is the goal.

I completely agree about some sites giving warnings to their customers to gamble responsibly, that is one thing that might be a good thing for any casino to consider for its customers. It's true that ultimately self-control and finances become difficult, but the casino is not to blame. We must take responsibility for all the decisions we make and accept the consequences. I think one of the impacts of irresponsible gambling cases is the one being discussed by the OP.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on May 21, 2022, 08:05:44 AM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on May 21, 2022, 07:31:58 AM

I feel bad for the family because the family didn't gambling addicts, but they got a consequence from the addict. I believe the family already warn him to not gambling and ask him to seek a professional, but due to his greediness he didn't care anything including his family. I think it's better if the family kick the addict, so they wouldn't get any problem from this man.

^ Rehabilitation is the best answer to this, anxiety becomes a trigger of greediness and greediness will trigger to commit crimes.
Gambling addictions are not that easy to cure, they will heal in just a matter of time and probably in the rehabilitation center gambling addicts will forget what is the cause of their addiction. Kicking is not a solution, whatever happens, still, that is your bloodline, your family, the only way is to cure him and stop him from his addiction.

I do agree with you that rehabilitation may be the way in order to combat addiction.

Unfortunately, the only way to combat any type of addiction are rehab and constant support from their peers. You have to constantly reassure them that you will always be supporting their new ways in order for them to fully realize their mistake. Helping them coping with their addiction is one thing, but true realization from the addict himself is another.

You really have to create an environment that will at least help them reduce the chance of any relapse and be understanding also at the moment because addiction is a sickness that must be treated as soon as possible.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on May 20, 2022, 09:40:00 AM

I thought casinos are good at this and they wouldn't let anyone penetrate such kind of stuffs, but hey there are few who does count. Casinos should have problem gambling experts to identify this people rather than letting them play...

think about the following:

A casino can have thousands of customers (players), but a casino is not in a position to hire thousands of employees to guess who can be addicted to gambling or not. there is no way that any casino employee has this kind of supernatural ability and I also doubt that there is any software that determines who are addicted to gambling, I gave an example of alcohol, there are hundreds of people who are addicted to alcohol and who die every day. but they never banned all alcohol companies because the problem is not with the alcohol companies. i think this art is putting things like it's the casinos fault when in fact it's the gambler who became addicted to gambling

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Quote from: agustina2 on May 20, 2022, 05:57:33 AM

Quote from: Boristhecat on May 20, 2022, 03:40:27 AM

Yes, gamblers should take full responsibility just like shopaholics, alcoholics and other people with addictions. If we start dividing this responsibility between those who advertise (of their product which, when used in reasonable quantities, does no harm) with people who consume it uncontrollably and face unpleasant consequences, we will harm all parties.

Same in cigarette advertisements - "smoking is dangerous to your health"
Same in liquor advertisements - "drink moderately"

Some gambling sites also have a banner or terms pointing to "gamble moderately" or "responsible gambling". Since these companies are promoting their products and services, obviously they won't say stop doing this or that.

We, as a consumer and clients, should be responsible for what we are doing.

Even if they don't say stop gambling, saying gambling responsibly is already a big thing so I salute all gambling companies that have this warning. They are not afraid that people will follow it, making their incomes to get lessen. In the meantime there are still hard headed people that won't follow this advice or any other advices that they hear from their colleagues.

In the story that OP brought to us, the guy would end up his gambling journey if not because of that single email he received. I salute that act because it shows that he is willing to change but scamming your family member or even other people is still not right but I hope he will also stop it. We can give this guy another chance to change his life.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on May 21, 2022, 07:31:58 AM

I feel bad for the family because the family didn't gambling addicts, but they got a consequence from the addict. I believe the family already warn him to not gambling and ask him to seek a professional, but due to his greediness he didn't care anything including his family. I think it's better if the family kick the addict, so they wouldn't get any problem from this man.

This is a personal decision of the player of course we cannot remove the urge to him/her to play gambling and the only people will suffer is the player and the people in their environment because if this particular person losses a game for sure it really hits hard to gain back those losses. If this might happen to one of your friends or family member it is ideal to guide them in the proper way to make sure they will not do the same mistakes.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on May 21, 2022, 08:16:48 AM

Quote from: fiulpro on May 18, 2022, 01:41:18 PM

Here is the article: https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40875731.html
Apparently Boyle Sports manipulated a man is a very sad way where he ended up loosing all the money he scammed from a family member.
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The gambling business has a very tough competition so what Boyle Sport did was not entirely a mistake, it was their trick to attract users to keep using their platform

I said it was bad luck because he (the victim) couldn't control himself to gamble when he found the email in his inbox. all things (bad or good) that happen to us are purely the fault of personal decision making, external causes have only a minor role imo

Because at the end of the day, it is you who will do the act of scamming someone, even if it is a family member, just to feed your desires in gambling. Most of the time, these gamblers are not seeing the logic of what they are doing. As long as he can get money to supply his gambling addiction, he will. But of course, if you are a responsible gambler, you won't do such act. It is easy to say if you are not in the situation, so if you are into gambling, make sure you know your limits before you go deep that you can't even pull yourself up.

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Quote from: fiulpro on May 18, 2022, 01:41:18 PM

Here is the article: https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40875731.html
Apparently Boyle Sports manipulated a man is a very sad way where he ended up loosing all the money he scammed from a family member.
~

The gambling business has a very tough competition so what Boyle Sport did was not entirely a mistake, it was their trick to attract users to keep using their platform

I said it was bad luck because he (the victim) couldn't control himself to gamble when he found the email in his inbox. all things (bad or good) that happen to us are purely the fault of personal decision making, external causes have only a minor role imo

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on May 21, 2022, 08:05:44 AM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on May 21, 2022, 07:31:58 AM

I feel bad for the family because the family didn't gambling addicts, but they got a consequence from the addict. I believe the family already warn him to not gambling and ask him to seek a professional, but due to his greediness he didn't care anything including his family. I think it's better if the family kick the addict, so they wouldn't get any problem from this man.

^ Rehabilitation is the best answer to this, anxiety becomes a trigger of greediness and greediness will trigger to commit crimes.
Gambling addictions are not that easy to cure, they will heal in just a matter of time and probably in the rehabilitation center gambling addicts will forget what is the cause of their addiction. Kicking is not a solution, whatever happens, still, that is your bloodline, your family, the only way is to cure him and stop him from his addiction.

That's why prevention is always better than cure. And as a gambler, we can prevent getting addicted if we educate ourselves first before we start gambling, knowing the risk is very important so we will be able to limit ourselves, yes, winning is very rewarding but not knowing the risk will certainly expose us to a bigger problem in the future.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on May 21, 2022, 07:31:58 AM

I feel bad for the family because the family didn't gambling addicts, but they got a consequence from the addict. I believe the family already warn him to not gambling and ask him to seek a professional, but due to his greediness he didn't care anything including his family. I think it's better if the family kick the addict, so they wouldn't get any problem from this man.

^ Rehabilitation is the best answer to this, anxiety becomes a trigger of greediness and greediness will trigger to commit crimes.
Gambling addictions are not that easy to cure, they will heal in just a matter of time and probably in the rehabilitation center gambling addicts will forget what is the cause of their addiction. Kicking is not a solution, whatever happens, still, that is your bloodline, your family, the only way is to cure him and stop him from his addiction.

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Quote from: MonaLeeTracy on May 21, 2022, 05:28:28 AM

People who are addicted to gambling say that, even if their losses pile up, there is a feeling that brings them back to the card table or slot machine.

It looks like your problem can't be solve anymore if you are already on this state, but in reality there's still a chance for you so don't give up yet and try to push yourself to stop gambling and slowly, recover from that addiction. You don't need to ended up like a broke one, if you made a mistake of scamming your family that's alright, ask for forgiveness and pay them back once you recovered. Please, if you know someone on a situation like this, you can still help them and don't every try to discourage them because gambling addiction is not a joke at all.

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I feel bad for the family because the family didn't gambling addicts, but they got a consequence from the addict. I believe the family already warn him to not gambling and ask him to seek a professional, but due to his greediness he didn't care anything including his family. I think it's better if the family kick the addict, so they wouldn't get any problem from this man.

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Quote from: mindrust on May 21, 2022, 06:42:46 AM

Quote from: rhomelmabini on May 20, 2022, 09:40:00 AM

I thought casinos are good at this and they wouldn't let anyone penetrate such kind of stuffs, but hey there are few who does count. Casinos should have problem gambling experts to identify this people rather than letting them play, it's the person has to be blame for what happened at the end of the day and by the way, he plead guilty for that.

Why would the casino owner care about this at all? The only thing matters for the casino is the profits they make and they make most of their money from the gambling addicts like the guy which OP's telling us about. If you see any casino which promotes responsible gambling and other crap like that, know that it is only for show. They don't do such thing. Rehabilitating the gambling addicts would destroy the whole gambling industry. It is not happening.

Rehabilitation of the gambling addicts won't make any big destruction to the gambling industry. Unless the gambling addicts doesn't have self control, even the rehabilitation program is useless/ineffective to them. If I'm not wrong, 3 gambling addicts out of ten will successfully cone out of gambling addiction through rehabilitation program. The key focus of the gambling site owners were profit, with that in mind we need to play. If we're profiting little, just enjoy it and never get into greed on the small win.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on May 20, 2022, 02:51:45 PM

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In short, self control and discipline could enable a gamble to disregard any distractions and triggers that could lead to relapse into gambling addiction. This is challenging in all actuality, so seeking every needed hep possible is really crucial to walk towards soberness, and even preventing things such as this one in OP from happening. By doing so, gamblers with addiction do not only help themselves alone, but also the people around them as well.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on May 20, 2022, 09:40:00 AM

I thought casinos are good at this and they wouldn't let anyone penetrate such kind of stuffs, but hey there are few who does count. Casinos should have problem gambling experts to identify this people rather than letting them play, it's the person has to be blame for what happened at the end of the day and by the way, he plead guilty for that.

Why would the casino owner care about this at all? The only thing matters for the casino is the profits they make and they make most of their money from the gambling addicts like the guy which OP's telling us about. If you see any casino which promotes responsible gambling and other crap like that, know that it is only for show. They don't do such thing. Rehabilitating the gambling addicts would destroy the whole gambling industry. It is not happening.

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Quote from: KTChampions on May 20, 2022, 05:26:13 AM

Why should a business think about those who misuse its products? What can you say about fast food and those who are addicted to it? Obviously they have huge negative consequences - obesity and related health problems. But are food manufacturers to blame? I think no. And attempts to extend responsibility to normal market participants will harm, first of all, ordinary normal consumers, that is, everyone will be punished except for those who have an addiction.

Food producers are not to be blamed, but at least they can advise the public about the meaning of health. That means they can provide education to the public while selling their products.
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Why would they do this shit? In addition, in modern conditions it is dangerous, because if you offend any group of people, you can be canceled and subjected to harassment. How fast do you think a food manufacturer will get into trouble if he says that obesity is not healthy and not the norm?

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