This is such an unfortunate event. Having a family member fool and betray you just for the sake of entertainment is enraging. This just proves that players really have to be mentally healthy before entering gambling. One must have a strong discipline and self-restraint if he wants to gamble. Because it is really known that gambling could be addicting. Just like any other hobby, if not managed well, it can be destructive instead of beneficial.
I hope the gambler gets the rehabilitation that he needs in order to survive this phase of his life. Gambling addiction is no joke and professional help and intervention of those knowledgeable about it is necessary in order for the victim to be in great shape again.
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Basically, people find it difficult to stop gambling because of acute addiction because of their adrenaline. The sensation of being able to win a gambling game, the feeling of tension during the game and the desire to replay the sensation are things that can beat common sense. Obviously, all gamblers never like the word LOSE, even those who are addicted to gambling will still continue to bet even though the dealer always wins. People who are addicted to gambling say that, even if their losses pile up, there is a feeling that brings them back to the card table or slot machine.
This is a problem that most person's are facing because of gambling.I have been a victim of this circumstances before.I played and lose game to virtual,and had no other choice,but to scam my family to give me money.Because the money I used for the gambling was my house rent,therefore,scamming my people was the only thing I could do to get the money back.
Gambling addiction is very bad for gamblers,because it can make you sell your valuable assets.I f we could run from gambling,it would have been the best advice for every gambler.
And imo, it shouldn't be normal. It just kind of seem odd to me how scamming your family becomes something you turn to just because of addiction. There's a line where you can determine whether you're getting addicted or not imo, and if you chose to cross that, then that just means the fault lies in you.Gambling addiction is very bad for gamblers,because it can make you sell your valuable assets.I f we could run from gambling,it would have been the best advice for every gambler.
I don't even think selling valuable assets is the problem with addiction. It's the fact that you lose yourself, wanting to do whatever the addiction you have is related to. Losing yourself is basically the same as saying "fuck this life" and doing it in action.
This is a problem that most person's are facing because of gambling.I have been a victim of this circumstances before.I played and lose game to virtual,and had no other choice,but to scam my family to give me money.Because the money I used for the gambling was my house rent,therefore,scamming my people was the only thing I could do to get the money back.
Gambling addiction is very bad for gamblers,because it can make you sell your valuable assets.I f we could run from gambling,it would have been the best advice for every gambler.
Gambling addiction is very bad for gamblers,because it can make you sell your valuable assets.I f we could run from gambling,it would have been the best advice for every gambler.
The gambler in the article happens to play in a corrupt casino, the casino knows that he is betting huge and they want to bait him into coming back by giving him a lot of promotions and free bets since he is a compulsive gambler and an offer like this is hard to refuse, I don't think even if there are no promotions coming in, he will stop playing and will continue to scam his family.
Taking a vacation from gambling is not the right way to cure a compulsive gambler, he needs the guidance of a professional who will devise task and gives him medicine to stop his urge to play.
if he is quickly treated by a professional psychiatrist then it is ensured that he will not fall into a big loss that makes his family lose...Taking a vacation from gambling is not the right way to cure a compulsive gambler, he needs the guidance of a professional who will devise task and gives him medicine to stop his urge to play.
I've seen people addicted to gambling, drugs and women. they really made his life and family miserable. nothing can save them (addicts) unless they have a strong will to quit the thing that makes them addicted (even vacations won't be strong enough).
Nothing good will be earned if you are addicted to much on anythings so I think what's most effective way to cure addiction is to rehab those people who's sufferinf this. Although this will be hard for the affected person but for sure inside of that institution he will be taken car of mentally and physically for sure he will be a changed man after the healing process.
Yeah, I agree with this, but if the gambler can still manage his addiction, there is no need. As you can see in the story, I could say that he can first control his addiction because he really stopped playing. What triggers him is the emails. In addiction, even though you can really manage it well, if it triggers with something you can't stop it. That's happened to him and it is very sad that he swindled his family. This guy should go to rehab and also try to sue the website since they keep sending emails although he already closed his account.
If I should open a business today I believe I'll like my business to blossom through certain bonuses and price reductions I feel my consumers would really fall for.
So should a consumer walk into my business center and patronize me due to my strategy I applied in my business wich is legit in the business world, should I be blame as for any means the customer used in getting the money he/she used in coming to petronize my business
Or do you expect I should be the one at loss and end up running out of business? No!
So I see no fault in anyway from the side of the gambling company from the actions of the so-called gambler. He's just a greedy gambler, that's all.
So should a consumer walk into my business center and patronize me due to my strategy I applied in my business wich is legit in the business world, should I be blame as for any means the customer used in getting the money he/she used in coming to petronize my business
Or do you expect I should be the one at loss and end up running out of business? No!
So I see no fault in anyway from the side of the gambling company from the actions of the so-called gambler. He's just a greedy gambler, that's all.
That is a very sad story and the bookmaker Boyle Sports is definitely at fault here. Sending 50 Euro free bets to man struggling with gambling addiction every time he is trying to stop gambling seems like abuse. From a marketing point of view I understand the company, it is normal practice to give out things for free to get more customers, or to get old customers excited again. However, if the person is struggling with a gambling addiction than things should be a little different. There should be an option for every gambler to inform the bookmaker or the casino that you are fighting an addiction and trying to stop gambling for a time. I saw some online casinos have a panic button, where you can log yourself out for 24h up to 180 days. Having something similar for all the bookmakers would be a good idea, like that you could prevent yourself from betting and gambling for a longer period of time. And the casino should of course not reopen the account before the period is over.
Here is the article: https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40875731.html
Apparently Boyle Sports manipulated a man is a very sad way where he ended up loosing all the money he scammed from a family member. The man had probelms with Gambling and he tried to stop by closing the account on the website and at the end of the day they saw him stopping but kept sending him mails and at the same time, they apparently sent him a 50$ free betting which at the end ending up to be awful for him since he started it again and ended up loosing all the fortune. The whole things is extremely complex like Some Sherlock Holmes story. The person was not infact gullible since to fuel his gambling addiction he scammed his family member and then went to court and pleaded guilty as well blamed it all on the Boyle Sports.
What do you think who was in the wrong ?
I think both the bettor and the Boyle Sports were in the wrong.
This is a difficult case, were the actions of the casino legal? Were they allowed to send a free bet to those gamblers that decided to close their account? While we know that morally this is wrong, especially when we are talking about a person addicted to gambling, if there is nothing written in the law that forbids this then the casino is legally blameless, which means that most of the responsibility falls with the addicted gambler which could not admit to himself his condition and instead decided to scam a very important sum of money from another person, I hope he receives the help he needs and he repays with interest all the money he stole as the amount stolen is not small at all. Apparently Boyle Sports manipulated a man is a very sad way where he ended up loosing all the money he scammed from a family member. The man had probelms with Gambling and he tried to stop by closing the account on the website and at the end of the day they saw him stopping but kept sending him mails and at the same time, they apparently sent him a 50$ free betting which at the end ending up to be awful for him since he started it again and ended up loosing all the fortune. The whole things is extremely complex like Some Sherlock Holmes story. The person was not infact gullible since to fuel his gambling addiction he scammed his family member and then went to court and pleaded guilty as well blamed it all on the Boyle Sports.
What do you think who was in the wrong ?
I think both the bettor and the Boyle Sports were in the wrong.
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It was established that the two accounts, to which the payments totalling €56,000 were made, were a personal bank account and a Boyle Sports account, both in Thomas O’Connell’s name. The payments varied from €100 to €1000 and averaged at just over €200.
“Contact was almost on a daily basis – sometimes a couple of times on a particular day. He admitted that he took €56,000 and impersonated (the solicitor),” Det. Garda Fuller said. O’Connell was actually a client of the solicitor he impersonated. The defendant had a gambling and alcohol addiction.
The phone calls and texts – supposedly from the solicitor - to the victim were a work of fiction by 48-year-old Thomas O’Connell who did not stop until he got his hands on every euro of the €56,000 the victim had inherited.
“Contact was almost on a daily basis – sometimes a couple of times on a particular day. He admitted that he took €56,000 and impersonated (the solicitor),” Det. Garda Fuller said. O’Connell was actually a client of the solicitor he impersonated. The defendant had a gambling and alcohol addiction.
The phone calls and texts – supposedly from the solicitor - to the victim were a work of fiction by 48-year-old Thomas O’Connell who did not stop until he got his hands on every euro of the €56,000 the victim had inherited.
The gambler in the article happens to play in a corrupt casino, the casino knows that he is betting huge and they want to bait him into coming back by giving him a lot of promotions and free bets since he is a compulsive gambler and an offer like this is hard to refuse, I don't think even if there are no promotions coming in, he will stop playing and will continue to scam his family.
Taking a vacation from gambling is not the right way to cure a compulsive gambler, he needs the guidance of a professional who will devise task and gives him medicine to stop his urge to play.
if he is quickly treated by a professional psychiatrist then it is ensured that he will not fall into a big loss that makes his family lose...Taking a vacation from gambling is not the right way to cure a compulsive gambler, he needs the guidance of a professional who will devise task and gives him medicine to stop his urge to play.
I've seen people addicted to gambling, drugs and women. they really made his life and family miserable. nothing can save them (addicts) unless they have a strong will to quit the thing that makes them addicted (even vacations won't be strong enough).
Nothing good will be earned if you are addicted to much on anythings so I think what's most effective way to cure addiction is to rehab those people who's sufferinf this. Although this will be hard for the affected person but for sure inside of that institution he will be taken car of mentally and physically for sure he will be a changed man after the healing process.
Man, I've heard more awful horror stories about gambling addiction.
In my country, a gambling addict killed his girlfriend, because she found out that he is stealing money from her, in order to gamble.
He cut her body into pieces and tried to deceive the police, but the police caught him. I understand that he was an addict, but what kind of sociopathic monster would kill own girlfriend, just because she found out that he was stealing money from her.
Many gambling and drug addicts had stolen money from their friends and families. I don't know who to blame in that case. The addicts? The gambling industry? Their friends and families, for not helping them fight their addiction? I guess that we have to put the blame on everyone.
He is addict? I mean aside from being addicted in gambling, he also take drugs? Drugs can make someone sick and they can now do more crimes easily but if he didn't take any drugs before he do the crime then he is indeed a sociopath/psychopath monster or whatever term you called it. Girls are mostly innocent but can only be influenced by their boyfriends.In my country, a gambling addict killed his girlfriend, because she found out that he is stealing money from her, in order to gamble.
He cut her body into pieces and tried to deceive the police, but the police caught him. I understand that he was an addict, but what kind of sociopathic monster would kill own girlfriend, just because she found out that he was stealing money from her.
Many gambling and drug addicts had stolen money from their friends and families. I don't know who to blame in that case. The addicts? The gambling industry? Their friends and families, for not helping them fight their addiction? I guess that we have to put the blame on everyone.
Maybe the guy taught the girl to gamble and the girl eventually became addicted to it? It was the guy's fault at the first place so he shouldn't kill his girl for this reason. Money can always be replaced but not the life or body once it stops breathing. The guy was also addicted so I believe that he also commit the same crime which is stealing money, from his girl or to someone else.
I think there is no need to scam his family because it was his own family anyway but he can just borrow money and im sure that his family will lend him some money. Scamming is already a wrong thing to do but it becomes very wrong if it is done on your own family. A few part of the story sounds familiar to me.
I know, there was also a guy that complains that he continues to receive gambling mails from one gambling site despite of exclusion. The gambling site admitted their mistake and I think they have offered compensation to the guy that lost most of his money. On this story here, boyle sports can do the same thing. That should lessen the pain that the gambler feel and helps to close the case early.
I know, there was also a guy that complains that he continues to receive gambling mails from one gambling site despite of exclusion. The gambling site admitted their mistake and I think they have offered compensation to the guy that lost most of his money. On this story here, boyle sports can do the same thing. That should lessen the pain that the gambler feel and helps to close the case early.
The gambler in the article happens to play in a corrupt casino, the casino knows that he is betting huge and they want to bait him into coming back by giving him a lot of promotions and free bets since he is a compulsive gambler and an offer like this is hard to refuse, I don't think even if there are no promotions coming in, he will stop playing and will continue to scam his family.
Taking a vacation from gambling is not the right way to cure a compulsive gambler, he needs the guidance of a professional who will devise task and gives him medicine to stop his urge to play.
if he is quickly treated by a professional psychiatrist then it is ensured that he will not fall into a big loss that makes his family lose...Taking a vacation from gambling is not the right way to cure a compulsive gambler, he needs the guidance of a professional who will devise task and gives him medicine to stop his urge to play.
I've seen people addicted to gambling, drugs and women. they really made his life and family miserable. nothing can save them (addicts) unless they have a strong will to quit the thing that makes them addicted (even vacations won't be strong enough).
We are in control of ourselves to be attracted or disinterested to play casino excessively without control, so casino companies are not involved in wrongdoing because they are not forcing someone to register a gambling member or not. All decisions are up to each one of them, so don't be influenced by anything that makes us active gambling addicts.
This is exactly what I am talking about. Although our environment throws many triggers and distractions to us, if we put our mind to it on really fighting against the urge to gamble, then we could probably make the fight. But, if we just let our guard down and be drawn to the influences, then we are really to be doomed.
One good way to keep ourselves away from doing these gambling activities is to keep some safe distance to our circles who also gamble because they will be the ones who will influence us to gamble and join them. Keeping some good distance will somehow help ourselves to survive our own battles.
handling out themselves towards on things on what they are seeing on whats in front and as long they are aware then they wouldnt definitely making out theirselves to be that addicted since
they do already know the outcome or possible things that might happen ahead.Yes, this wont really be that simple but having that control and discipline isnt something
that impossible for it to be done.
We are in control of ourselves to be attracted or disinterested to play casino excessively without control, so casino companies are not involved in wrongdoing because they are not forcing someone to register a gambling member or not. All decisions are up to each one of them, so don't be influenced by anything that makes us active gambling addicts.
This is exactly what I am talking about. Although our environment throws many triggers and distractions to us, if we put our mind to it on really fighting against the urge to gamble, then we could probably make the fight. But, if we just let our guard down and be drawn to the influences, then we are really to be doomed.
One good way to keep ourselves away from doing these gambling activities is to keep some safe distance to our circles who also gamble because they will be the ones who will influence us to gamble and join them. Keeping some good distance will somehow help ourselves to survive our own battles.
Here the gambler is wrong. As a means of promotion gambling platforms used to give free betting bonuses. If this bonus have been given knowing that the user is gonna end gambling, then the gambling platform too is wrong. Myself too have similar experience playing with bonus when I was in long break from gambling, and from my experience it is always good to have self control.
I think the blame should only be put to the gambler alone. He cannot control himself from its addiction that end up making wrong decisions. However, on the part of the casino, i have encounter some of the gambling platforms who are offering some bonuses, and its up to you if you will bite it or refuse to accept it. So definitely the final decision is still in the hands of the gambler. And here, the gambler also takes advantage of the offer, so that caused him too much addiction that he end up scamming which i think he is the only one responsible for his own actions. legendary
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I refuse to see individuals like the one described as victims. We can always see the wrongdoer as a victim. In this case a victim of alcohol and gambling. Many child abusers were abused as children. We can see them as victims too. Same for murderers and whatever else we want. We can always find an external factor to blame.
In this case the Sports Bet website is partly to blame for continuing to contact him despite wanting to close the account, but he is to blame for scamming his friend. Alcohol and gambling can get you into trouble but virtually no one who drinks, gambles, or both, scams their friends to gamble.
To consider alcohol, gambling or drugs as the culprits is in reality giving alibis to criminals, as every criminal drinks, takes drugs and/or gambles.
In this case the Sports Bet website is partly to blame for continuing to contact him despite wanting to close the account, but he is to blame for scamming his friend. Alcohol and gambling can get you into trouble but virtually no one who drinks, gambles, or both, scams their friends to gamble.
To consider alcohol, gambling or drugs as the culprits is in reality giving alibis to criminals, as every criminal drinks, takes drugs and/or gambles.
I thought casinos are good at this and they wouldn't let anyone penetrate such kind of stuffs, but hey there are few who does count. Casinos should have problem gambling experts to identify this people rather than letting them play, it's the person has to be blame for what happened at the end of the day and by the way, he plead guilty for that.
Reading this news I see that many parts of the story are cut or incomplete. The guy was addicted to alcohol and gambling.
But why aren't they blaming the companies that make alcoholic beverages?
why are they just blaming the casino?
in the article it doesn't mention if he lost all the money after receiving the bonus and also in the article it doesn't mention if he was playing online or in the physical casino and also in the article it doesn't mention if he had medical proof that he was addicted to gambling and alcohol , it seems to me that every article is someone's opinion without being based on evidence, I'm talking about the addictions part, even if the guy has pleaded guilty and also he considers himself addicted until he has a doctor to prove that he really is an addict so he's not an addict, so I ask the same question again:
Did the guy show any medical documents to the casino to say he was addicted? Did he show this to some alcohol company to get all alcohol companies and bars to stop selling him alcohol?
people always blame gambling sites when it comes to addiction, but they forget that there are a lot of guys who are addicted to alcohol and i have never seen it said that alcohol companies should stop selling alcohol to person Z because he is addicted
But why aren't they blaming the companies that make alcoholic beverages?
why are they just blaming the casino?
in the article it doesn't mention if he lost all the money after receiving the bonus and also in the article it doesn't mention if he was playing online or in the physical casino and also in the article it doesn't mention if he had medical proof that he was addicted to gambling and alcohol , it seems to me that every article is someone's opinion without being based on evidence, I'm talking about the addictions part, even if the guy has pleaded guilty and also he considers himself addicted until he has a doctor to prove that he really is an addict so he's not an addict, so I ask the same question again:
Did the guy show any medical documents to the casino to say he was addicted? Did he show this to some alcohol company to get all alcohol companies and bars to stop selling him alcohol?
people always blame gambling sites when it comes to addiction, but they forget that there are a lot of guys who are addicted to alcohol and i have never seen it said that alcohol companies should stop selling alcohol to person Z because he is addicted
What the gambling site did was wrong but at the end of the day they didn't force him to scam so the addiction made him to scam so he can't sue the sportbook for his immoral actions which can never be justified. We all should have self discipline in everything because we are in control of our actions.
^ One of the main factors that cause this for sure is greediness, don't let this will happen, and stop your greediness at all times. You will never be justified in the end if you will chase money in gambling and when you left nothing, that is the time you will for sure commit crimes and even your family is the number one victim. Moderately gambling is the right way to control yourself, it should start with yourself on how to control it.
The story shows how will educate ourselves in gambling, that was an advantage to all of us here because we are aware of others' mistakes and avoid not will happen to us.
The gambler are to blame....
He had the option to go out to get a second job, that would have kept him busy...not having the extra time to gamble... but he decided to rather scam money out of his family and friends and now he wants to shift the blame to the people who offered him the opportunity to gamble.
This is typical of the new thinking of people... "Always a victim" .... never taking the responsibility for their actions. We have the freedom to make choices...and he took the wrong option.
Yes, he is a gambler who is wrong, problematic and also irresponsible for harming or sacrificing others even his own family just for the wrong pleasure which I think he has become the acute trigger and does not think about what will happen next.He had the option to go out to get a second job, that would have kept him busy...not having the extra time to gamble... but he decided to rather scam money out of his family and friends and now he wants to shift the blame to the people who offered him the opportunity to gamble.
This is typical of the new thinking of people... "Always a victim" .... never taking the responsibility for their actions. We have the freedom to make choices...and he took the wrong option.
it doesn't matter if the gambling site is fraudulent or wrong, because what needs to be smart is the user without doing research and also thinking clean.
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