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Quote from: capedbaldy on May 25, 2022, 01:38:45 PM

I'm sure it makes the hardest part to get gambling addicts to consult in psychology because they will be very difficult to recover if without the desire in each of them, I might be willing to set aside money for medication only but not for loans for gambling and alcohol.

It's hard but if going through the process, there's ample time for them to recover and heal. If a rough thing was done and just as what has been addressed.
There's no other thing, the best thing to do and that's to consult for medication and seek professional help. Your own will of stopping will be there but that won't be enough as you need someone to take care for you in a guided manner.

When it comes to addiction problems then there's no one that could help you out but rather yourself and its true that if you cant able to solve it on your own then this is the time you would really be seeking help from

your loved ones and if ever this one doesnt work either then seek for professional help and any other forms of gambling addiction solution or something in related.In speaking with actions made out by any addicts out there

then it isnt really that surprising because you are really out of your mind on thinking the right things to be done and whats not specially your mind isnt really that on a good state.

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Quote from: capedbaldy on May 25, 2022, 01:38:45 PM

I'm sure it makes the hardest part to get gambling addicts to consult in psychology because they will be very difficult to recover if without the desire in each of them, I might be willing to set aside money for medication only but not for loans for gambling and alcohol.

It's hard but if going through the process, there's ample time for them to recover and heal. If a rough thing was done and just as what has been addressed.
There's no other thing, the best thing to do and that's to consult for medication and seek professional help. Your own will of stopping will be there but that won't be enough as you need someone to take care for you in a guided manner.

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Quote from: madnessteat on May 25, 2022, 06:16:26 AM

If a person is gambling with credit money, it means he does not recognize the problem of addiction. Instead of lending money to such a person, thereby reinforcing his addiction, it is better to convince him to get treatment and help him in this case not only financially but also psychologically. Only close people can help a person who is in a difficult life situation.

I'm sure it makes the hardest part to get gambling addicts to consult in psychology because they will be very difficult to recover if without the desire in each of them, I might be willing to set aside money for medication only but not for loans for gambling and alcohol.

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Quote from: maydna on May 25, 2022, 08:30:10 AM

Right, I agree with you. It is better not to lend money to those who want to gamble and drink alcohol. They don't want to lose their own money but borrow money from other people. For this, I have experience, but the person who borrowed the money didn't tell the truth about what he wanted to do with the money, so I didn't borrow mine. It would be better if they used the money to buy food for him and his family than for gambling or alcohol.

I would not be willing to lend if he used the loan for his purposes not for gambling and alcohol. But if someone lies to me because of a loan to use both of them then I will never care about that person other than collecting the loan, nothing more than that.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on May 25, 2022, 10:03:38 AM

Why does his family don't seek a professional to take care him? gambling addictions isn't a joke and only can be solved by prohibition.

Quote from: maydna on May 25, 2022, 08:30:10 AM

Right, I agree with you. It is better not to lend money to those who want to gamble and drink alcohol.

You wouldn't know what they're doing with your money and it's dumb if they tell you if your money used for gambling, the best way is don't lend your money to anyone including your friends. If they're forcing you and you don't have any choice, then lend him only few portion e.g. 20-50%, don't give full amount.

I wouldn't blame the family here. It's easy to ask a wife who was abused by a husband why she didn't fight back or call the police and it's the same with the gambler's relatives. They see a problem and usually try to talk to him but most people are afraid of losing someone's trust if they commit him to a facility.

This is really unfortunate what happened to this poor guy but also not entirely the fault of the casino. If you really want to stop you can change your email, even cut off your internet just to stay away from gambling. Casinos will try to tempt you but you're the one who decides. You are in control.

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-snip- but if you're addicted to gambling then you should really go to therapy to help yourself.

Not every addict realizes they are addicted to gambling, some addicts think it is normal. If you are not aware that you are addicted, how can you go to a therapist or a health expert? The addict needs help, his close people need to remind them that he is already addicted to the gambling activity. Sadly, not all close people want to remind this or give help, some may not really care. So, this problem isn't as simple as you think, it is complicated, dude.

Addicts never admits that they are addicted to gambling. They see it as general thing because not only them are betting, but people are also betting. Gambling is really bad for some people who can't control it, rather the more advise they get, the more they play gambling. Some people have full hope there as their means of getting their first million. Gambling is everywhere in the world presently and the number of people addicted are increasing in numbers steadily.

Most, if not all, addicted to gambling do admit that they are already engaged too much, they will continue to deny that

There's already a problem with them. After losing a lot of money, they will try every resource
that they can get in order to continue these vices.

The bad side of having no control of your emotions can lead you to do things that are behind imaginable,
just like how the person with OP's story, scamming his own family because of eagerness to continue gambling.

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Why does his family don't seek a professional to take care him? gambling addictions isn't a joke and only can be solved by prohibition.

Quote from: maydna on May 25, 2022, 08:30:10 AM

Right, I agree with you. It is better not to lend money to those who want to gamble and drink alcohol.

You wouldn't know what they're doing with your money and it's dumb if they tell you if your money used for gambling, the best way is don't lend your money to anyone including your friends. If they're forcing you and you don't have any choice, then lend him only few portion e.g. 20-50%, don't give full amount.

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Quote from: capedbaldy on May 25, 2022, 05:31:06 AM

Quote from: Smartprofit on May 25, 2022, 05:04:42 AM

I don't lend money to friends or relatives. If this is a person close to me, I can give him money as a gift.

There is a proverb - "If you want to lose a friend, lend him money."

It's very frustrating when the person you lent money to hides from you, lies to you, or starts talking nasty things about you. Drug addicts and alcoholics often borrow money from acquaintances. This is also true for gamblers (addicted to gambling).

Addiction is terrible precisely because the moral norms of the patient are very weakened. He can commit any antisocial offense (and even a crime).

I am that many people will not give loans to gambling addicts and alcoholics, because there is no guarantee that they will repay the debt once they have the money, but of course they will return to gambling again and will ask for another loan if they meet you, so don't give any loan except you accept lost money from gamblers.

Right, I agree with you. It is better not to lend money to those who want to gamble and drink alcohol. They don't want to lose their own money but borrow money from other people. For this, I have experience, but the person who borrowed the money didn't tell the truth about what he wanted to do with the money, so I didn't borrow mine. It would be better if they used the money to buy food for him and his family than for gambling or alcohol.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on May 25, 2022, 05:04:42 AM

I don't lend money to friends or relatives. If this is a person close to me, I can give him money as a gift.

There is a proverb - "If you want to lose a friend, lend him money."

It's very frustrating when the person you lent money to hides from you, lies to you, or starts talking nasty things about you. Drug addicts and alcoholics often borrow money from acquaintances. This is also true for gamblers (addicted to gambling).

Addiction is terrible precisely because the moral norms of the patient are very weakened. He can commit any antisocial offense (and even a crime).

We have the same perspective about lending money. I do not really lend money to anyone even if it's a close friend or a close relative. I just simply give what I can share wholeheartedly because I have already experienced several times that people don't really know how to pay what is due. Most of the times, they will be aggressive to you if you'll bring up about the money they have borrowed. Nowadays, it's you, the lender, who will be ashamed to asked for what you lent because most of them will say that they don't have money just yet. When in fact, they could afford to buy luxurious items and have extravagant celebrations uncalled for, when they can't really afford it. Simply because they want to show off.

Indeed, it's frustrating and infuriating that these people have the audacity to borrow when they can't even keep a promise. Hence, I didn't really trust from there onwards. I would rather be called selfish than to have nothing left when I need it the most. After all, not everyone you helped will actually help you the way you helped them when they needed it.

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Quote from: fiulpro on May 18, 2022, 01:41:18 PM

What do you think who was in the wrong ?
I think both the bettor and the Boyle Sports were in the wrong.

Both are indeed wrong but there's no law that could really make out immediate or proper action specially if there would no agreements involved like "self-exclusions" which the user had made out some
request for him not to recieve any mails in related with promotions because its totally irresponsible or mistake if they do still sent out despite of such condition or scenario.

As a gambling addict then you could do sort of things which it would be mainly affecting on people around you even with your own family which you could really be
able to scam out specially if you dont have money to spent through gambling.

You are absolutely right, in addiction to games it is very easy to lose control and in less than expected you can see problems with the same family, because what the player wants is to have a lot of money to continue playing because according to him, he has the secret to win, and it is not like that, it is his own addiction, in a tv program I saw as a professional person, a lawyer got his family into trouble, he got into debt and used his parents and siblings to having a lot of money and betting it, of course he lost everything, and when he felt bad he wanted to kill himself, it was because of his brother that he prevented it, however they took him to a clinic and they saved him, because he was poisoned.

I have friends who are addicted to games, every day they only focus on playing games and if there is no money they will borrow money from friends and relatives just to be able to play games. People who are addicted to games will no longer focus on work, if for younger students they often skip school and can no longer focus on studying because they are addicted to games.

at least your friend is borrowing funds and not scamming though borrowing without bringing back is also a form of scam for me and gamblers? yeah they are the one who knows nothing about returning the borrowed money.
yeah not all of gamblers having this attitude but all of addicted gambler does.

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Quote from: capedbaldy on May 25, 2022, 05:31:06 AM

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If a person is gambling with credit money, it means he does not recognize the problem of addiction. Instead of lending money to such a person, thereby reinforcing his addiction, it is better to convince him to get treatment and help him in this case not only financially but also psychologically. Only close people can help a person who is in a difficult life situation.

never lend a people that we already knew being addicted because instead of helping them? we are making them more addicted because of supporting their vices .

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Quote from: capedbaldy on May 25, 2022, 05:31:06 AM

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If a person is gambling with credit money, it means he does not recognize the problem of addiction. Instead of lending money to such a person, thereby reinforcing his addiction, it is better to convince him to get treatment and help him in this case not only financially but also psychologically. Only close people can help a person who is in a difficult life situation.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on May 25, 2022, 05:04:42 AM

I don't lend money to friends or relatives. If this is a person close to me, I can give him money as a gift.

There is a proverb - "If you want to lose a friend, lend him money."

It's very frustrating when the person you lent money to hides from you, lies to you, or starts talking nasty things about you. Drug addicts and alcoholics often borrow money from acquaintances. This is also true for gamblers (addicted to gambling).

Addiction is terrible precisely because the moral norms of the patient are very weakened. He can commit any antisocial offense (and even a crime).

I am that many people will not give loans to gambling addicts and alcoholics, because there is no guarantee that they will repay the debt once they have the money, but of course they will return to gambling again and will ask for another loan if they meet you, so don't give any loan except you accept lost money from gamblers.

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Quote from: fiulpro on May 18, 2022, 01:41:18 PM

What do you think who was in the wrong ?
I think both the bettor and the Boyle Sports were in the wrong.

Both are indeed wrong but there's no law that could really make out immediate or proper action specially if there would no agreements involved like "self-exclusions" which the user had made out some
request for him not to recieve any mails in related with promotions because its totally irresponsible or mistake if they do still sent out despite of such condition or scenario.

As a gambling addict then you could do sort of things which it would be mainly affecting on people around you even with your own family which you could really be
able to scam out specially if you dont have money to spent through gambling.

You are absolutely right, in addiction to games it is very easy to lose control and in less than expected you can see problems with the same family, because what the player wants is to have a lot of money to continue playing because according to him, he has the secret to win, and it is not like that, it is his own addiction, in a tv program I saw as a professional person, a lawyer got his family into trouble, he got into debt and used his parents and siblings to having a lot of money and betting it, of course he lost everything, and when he felt bad he wanted to kill himself, it was because of his brother that he prevented it, however they took him to a clinic and they saved him, because he was poisoned.

I have friends who are addicted to games, every day they only focus on playing games and if there is no money they will borrow money from friends and relatives just to be able to play games. People who are addicted to games will no longer focus on work, if for younger students they often skip school and can no longer focus on studying because they are addicted to games.

I don't lend money to friends or relatives. If this is a person close to me, I can give him money as a gift.

There is a proverb - "If you want to lose a friend, lend him money."

It's very frustrating when the person you lent money to hides from you, lies to you, or starts talking nasty things about you. Drug addicts and alcoholics often borrow money from acquaintances. This is also true for gamblers (addicted to gambling).

Addiction is terrible precisely because the moral norms of the patient are very weakened. He can commit any antisocial offense (and even a crime).

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Quote from: Nasuhalugu on May 25, 2022, 04:04:26 AM

I have friends who are addicted to games, every day they only focus on playing games and if there is no money they will borrow money from friends and relatives just to be able to play games. People who are addicted to games will no longer focus on work, if for younger students they often skip school and can no longer focus on studying because they are addicted to games.

Whether your friend plays gambling games or ordinary games, because the negative impact will be more terrible if he is addicted to gambling games, many people lose their minds if they can't control themselves and are even willing to do anything to be able to play. gamble. So we have to keep gambling just for fun, not to get high wins because it will require high betting capital.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 24, 2022, 11:36:05 PM

Quote from: dunfida on May 19, 2022, 10:08:49 AM

Quote from: fiulpro on May 18, 2022, 01:41:18 PM

What do you think who was in the wrong ?
I think both the bettor and the Boyle Sports were in the wrong.

Both are indeed wrong but there's no law that could really make out immediate or proper action specially if there would no agreements involved like "self-exclusions" which the user had made out some
request for him not to recieve any mails in related with promotions because its totally irresponsible or mistake if they do still sent out despite of such condition or scenario.

As a gambling addict then you could do sort of things which it would be mainly affecting on people around you even with your own family which you could really be
able to scam out specially if you dont have money to spent through gambling.

You are absolutely right, in addiction to games it is very easy to lose control and in less than expected you can see problems with the same family, because what the player wants is to have a lot of money to continue playing because according to him, he has the secret to win, and it is not like that, it is his own addiction, in a tv program I saw as a professional person, a lawyer got his family into trouble, he got into debt and used his parents and siblings to having a lot of money and betting it, of course he lost everything, and when he felt bad he wanted to kill himself, it was because of his brother that he prevented it, however they took him to a clinic and they saved him, because he was poisoned.

I have friends who are addicted to games, every day they only focus on playing games and if there is no money they will borrow money from friends and relatives just to be able to play games. People who are addicted to games will no longer focus on work, if for younger students they often skip school and can no longer focus on studying because they are addicted to games.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on May 25, 2022, 01:26:05 AM

An online casino is an organization created for profit.

This is a commercial organization. The goal of any commercial organization is to make a profit. It's hard for me to blame Boyle Sports for aggressive marketing. All commercial organizations carry out aggressive marketing. Their goal is to realize their entrepreneurial services and make a profit. This is capitalism.

The player must be responsible and careful. Gambling addiction is a big risk. It is unacceptable to impersonate a well-known lawyer. This is classified as a scam.

In this story, the main responsibility lies with the player (IMHO).

I think when there are people who are familiar with gambling then they will continue to gamble and it is difficult to stop gambling because according to him that way he can get happiness even though it is only a loss that he gets, sometimes rich people gamble just for fun and already understand the consequences.

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Defiantly the fault lies in the bettor, who kept on betting despite the fact he is continuously losing his money. This is not the first time we came across such horrible story, the gambling world is full of such mishaps.

Quote from: fiulpro on May 18, 2022, 01:41:18 PM

... they apparently sent him a 50$ free betting which at the end ending up to be awful for him since he started it again and ended up loosing all the fortune.

Its not just gambling sites which send you such lucrative offers you see it from almost every sites, for instance, Binance send you offer that do 50$ transactions and you have a chance to win 10$ cash back. We need to think wisely before we fell in such traps.

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An online casino is an organization created for profit.

This is a commercial organization. The goal of any commercial organization is to make a profit. It's hard for me to blame Boyle Sports for aggressive marketing. All commercial organizations carry out aggressive marketing. Their goal is to realize their entrepreneurial services and make a profit. This is capitalism.

The player must be responsible and careful. Gambling addiction is a big risk. It is unacceptable to impersonate a well-known lawyer. This is classified as a scam.

In this story, the main responsibility lies with the player (IMHO).

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Quote from: safari88 on May 22, 2022, 03:25:38 PM

Many people blame sites for better management, but in the end only one player is responsible for the losses of the whole and that is the player himself. It's understandable that he wants to put the blame on gambling sites, but if you're addicted to gambling then you should really go to therapy to help yourself.

Nobody is willing to help one's self if nobody is making the first move or try to talk to him or at least do something about it to let that person be aware of what he has become. Of course the blame would always go to that subject person who got addicted and lose control of his gambling expenditures, but these gambling websites must also be responsible enough not to drag their clients into the worse form of addiction, otherwise the business is no different than a fraud.

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Quote from: Silberman on May 24, 2022, 05:01:18 PM

Quote from: Oceat on May 22, 2022, 02:09:45 PM

It's clear that the gambler has a problem in the first place since he was addicted already plus he is not thru with it yet. Then a simple message from the casino would trigger the feeling of a compulsive gambler and since he can't do anything about it even if he lost more than he can afford to lose. That's why if you have a bad feeling when starting to play gambling trust your guts because that's true. In the long run, you will still be the one who can control yourself.

It is a shame that things like this keep happening but this is because people still have the wrong idea when it comes to gambling, if instead of seeing in gambling an easy source of money they just saw it as another from of passing their time then very soon they will realize how betting such a huge amount of money which they cannot afford to lose makes no sense, after all with all of that money you could have done something else that could have brought you more entertainment if used correctly, but since those people not only want to win but also to recover the money they have lost through the years they never consider that alternative view at all.

And in this case it's even worse, because the addicted gambler didn't cause problems only for himself, but also for his acquainted, who was scammed and lost 56,000€ he received from his mother. Probably this gambler knew about the inheritance received by the other man, and that is why he milked every single penny from him to feed his addiction without worrying if there would be money to repay the "loan" later. It's also shocking the fact this scam lasted for 2 years. It's a lot of time to be scammed in silence without going after the police or suing the borrower.

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