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Quote from: lienfaye on September 21, 2019, 05:46:59 PM

Quote from: tvplus006 on September 21, 2019, 05:17:40 PM

I think that if a person adheres to the rules of his religion, then he will not play gambling. The rest can gamble either for fun or for making money. Because it is very difficult to combine earnings and entertainment.

It totally depends on the religion and their belief. There are other ways to entertain ourselves if we are just treating gambling for fun but because there's money to risk it became exciting. In my view, money that earned from gambling is not different in other source to earn, its just that how you accumulate it is more on luck since you have no assurance if you'll going to grow your money or not.

Many people do not care about the religion and only care about what they think is right.
If gambling is not allowed in anyone's religion, then the profit from it will also be wrong and illegal.

Many people think that you should work to get the money and anything which you get from speculation is not the right form of income.

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Quote from: tvplus006 on September 21, 2019, 05:17:40 PM

I think that if a person adheres to the rules of his religion, then he will not play gambling. The rest can gamble either for fun or for making money. Because it is very difficult to combine earnings and entertainment.

It totally depends on the religion and their belief. There are other ways to entertain ourselves if we are just treating gambling for fun but because there's money to risk it became exciting. In my view, money that earned from gambling is not different in other source to earn, its just that how you accumulate it is more on luck since you have no assurance if you'll going to grow your money or not.

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Quote from: jostorres on September 21, 2019, 12:07:38 PM

I don't think there is anyone on earth that will be glad to disobey what their religion is against. Let's understand that most people do this for money and we can't change that. You can call it living a two faced life or having double standards and I will say I do not really care what anyone thinks.

I am not gambling for money, I do it for entertainment even though it is against my belief but I cannot trade my joy for a religious belief that I do not know so much about. I hope I don't get bashed for this post but this is only my candid opinion. I have some friends that gamble because they are in need and gambling happens to be a sure way to make money, so you will advise them to stay off? Because of personality? Who cares about personality anyway? All that matters is the money and nothing else.

I think that if a person adheres to the rules of his religion, then he will not play gambling. The rest can gamble either for fun or for making money. Because it is very difficult to combine earnings and entertainment.

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Quote from: acroman08 on September 20, 2019, 07:47:10 PM

but some religious people don't care about if the process is fair. the reason why they consider gambling money dirty is because it is said
on they're bible, quran etc.. that gambling is a form of sin which is greed it won't matter to them if it was fair as long as it came from gambling it is a sin for them.

That is already a dogma. The problem with these kinds of beliefs is that they are unchangeable, they are already set in stone. In the real world, however, it is not like that. Times are changing, so are systems, fads, cultures, traditions, perspectives, etc. Gambling could have been perceived centuries ago as dirty. Today, it is not like that anymore. Even religious personalities are playing bingo, slot machines, and lotteries. I mean faith should be dynamic also.

Indeed it has become a dogma in every religion, where if it is said to be haram it will still be haram, changing times will not change that dogma. And your statement about faith that there is no dynamic faith, if people feel that their faith is dynamic means that they actually don't have faith. Maybe you should study philosophy and understand meaning of faith more deeply.

Yes different people have different faith related to gambling. They consider it fair and some people consider it as haram. It’s all about religion some does call source of earning and some totally different. People should make clear from their elders of religion before gambling as Faith is recognitions of a nation so better have clear idea about gambling but for me we don’t get in gambling for free we work and earn.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on September 17, 2019, 02:23:51 AM

Like my religion will say, you cannot serve God and mammon. If you are for gambling, then stay for gambling and if your religion is against it, then flee from it. There is no point living a double standard life and living in confusion.

If the reason to play is for money, there are other ways to make money, mustn’t be on gambling alone. I dislike it when people live a confused life. If my culture or belief was against gambling, I would not have any reason to be a part of it. The above poster has explained better on this, that will be like a stain on your personality, so you are advised to quit and focus on your religion.

I don't think there is anyone on earth that will be glad to disobey what their religion is against. Let's understand that most people do this for money and we can't change that. You can call it living a two faced life or having double standards and I will say I do not really care what anyone thinks.

I am not gambling for money, I do it for entertainment even though it is against my belief but I cannot trade my joy for a religious belief that I do not know so much about. I hope I don't get bashed for this post but this is only my candid opinion. I have some friends that gamble because they are in need and gambling happens to be a sure way to make money, so you will advise them to stay off? Because of personality? Who cares about personality anyway? All that matters is the money and nothing else.

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Quote from: acroman08 on September 20, 2019, 07:47:10 PM

but some religious people don't care about if the process is fair. the reason why they consider gambling money dirty is because it is said
on they're bible, quran etc.. that gambling is a form of sin which is greed it won't matter to them if it was fair as long as it came from gambling it is a sin for them.

That is already a dogma. The problem with these kinds of beliefs is that they are unchangeable, they are already set in stone. In the real world, however, it is not like that. Times are changing, so are systems, fads, cultures, traditions, perspectives, etc. Gambling could have been perceived centuries ago as dirty. Today, it is not like that anymore. Even religious personalities are playing bingo, slot machines, and lotteries. I mean faith should be dynamic also.

Indeed it has become a dogma in every religion, where if it is said to be haram it will still be haram, changing times will not change that dogma. And your statement about faith that there is no dynamic faith, if people feel that their faith is dynamic means that they actually don't have faith. Maybe you should study philosophy and understand meaning of faith more deeply.

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Quote from: acroman08 on September 20, 2019, 07:47:10 PM

Quote from: Ryker1 on September 20, 2019, 11:23:02 AM

Well, the words Dirty money is that money came from stolen and something you are committing crimes just for money or those illegal activities that you can earn money. If you had gambled with provably fair with your opponents or even the house edge without cheating the outcome on that is clean money and that is not dirty money. Indeed, the profit on gambling through honest way is not a dirty money.

but some religious people don't care about if the process is fair. the reason why they consider gambling money dirty is because it is said
on they're bible, quran etc.. that gambling is a form of sin which is greed it won't matter to them if it was fair as long as it came from gambling it is a sin for them.

You are right. But if we don't tell where the money is, I think they will not say anything, and we could still give the money to them. I think that will be a solution if one person still wants to donate the money from gambling to them. They will not know about the truth, and we could try to give some money to help them. But that will depend on ourselves on this because some of us will not okay to do that, and besides that, that is the money which comes from gambling.

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Quote from: acroman08 on September 20, 2019, 07:47:10 PM

Quote from: Ryker1 on September 20, 2019, 11:23:02 AM

Well, the words Dirty money is that money came from stolen and something you are committing crimes just for money or those illegal activities that you can earn money. If you had gambled with provably fair with your opponents or even the house edge without cheating the outcome on that is clean money and that is not dirty money. Indeed, the profit on gambling through honest way is not a dirty money.

but some religious people don't care about if the process is fair. the reason why they consider gambling money dirty is because it is said
on they're bible, quran etc.. that gambling is a form of sin which is greed it won't matter to them if it was fair as long as it came from gambling it is a sin for them.

That is already a dogma. The problem with these kinds of beliefs is that they are unchangeable, they are already set in stone. In the real world, however, it is not like that. Times are changing, so are systems, fads, cultures, traditions, perspectives, etc. Gambling could have been perceived centuries ago as dirty. Today, it is not like that anymore. Even religious personalities are playing bingo, slot machines, and lotteries. I mean faith should be dynamic also.

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Quote from: acroman08 on September 20, 2019, 07:47:10 PM

Quote from: Ryker1 on September 20, 2019, 11:23:02 AM

Well, the words Dirty money is that money came from stolen and something you are committing crimes just for money or those illegal activities that you can earn money. If you had gambled with provably fair with your opponents or even the house edge without cheating the outcome on that is clean money and that is not dirty money. Indeed, the profit on gambling through honest way is not a dirty money.

but some religious people don't care about if the process is fair. the reason why they consider gambling money dirty is because it is said
on they're bible, quran etc.. that gambling is a form of sin which is greed it won't matter to them if it was fair as long as it came from gambling it is a sin for them.

As a Filipino, I don't think money from gambling is dirty, unless it is really illegal in your country. In our country, gambling is used widely to pass time, it is even used at nights when there is someone dead, we call that "lamay". It is a tradition in every "lamay" to gamble, either card games sometimes Bingo are being played, accompanied by coffee and biscuits until dawn.

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Quote from: Ryker1 on September 20, 2019, 11:23:02 AM

Well, the words Dirty money is that money came from stolen and something you are committing crimes just for money or those illegal activities that you can earn money. If you had gambled with provably fair with your opponents or even the house edge without cheating the outcome on that is clean money and that is not dirty money. Indeed, the profit on gambling through honest way is not a dirty money.

but some religious people don't care about if the process is fair. the reason why they consider gambling money dirty is because it is said
on they're bible, quran etc.. that gambling is a form of sin which is greed it won't matter to them if it was fair as long as it came from gambling it is a sin for them.

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Quote from: Murat on September 20, 2019, 01:04:30 PM

I think Gambling is prohibited in some religious. That's why people who believe in God or believe in the religion doesn’t like gambling. I know, in Islam gambling is Haram. If someone do gambling and lives hos life on that, he will be thrown to hell.

It is true, it is prohibited in Islam but in other religion they don't emphasize that gambling is a sin.
I'm a Christian and I gamble, and my family doesn't mind as my father also gambles, in general it doesn't affect our life, so for me, why should people be prohibited when it's fun to gamble, maybe the measure in some religion is more on preventive and they generalize the solution to the possible problem it will bring because if more gamblers are irresponsible, it will ruin his life and his family, thanks God I am not.

Quote from: Murat on September 20, 2019, 01:04:30 PM

My family also Doesn't support gambling. People here says, they will die without eating but never earn by gambling.

If they want to live, gambling is not the solution, people gamble to spend to have fun but not to earn, at least for the majority.

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Gambling can make someone lose everything. gambling can be addictive. gambling can change the way people think. but gambling can also train mentally and adrenaline. gambling should be a fun game. but if it's too serious and sacrificed money for gambling I think it's the wrong way.
Everyone has their own thoughts and beliefs. all depends on personal beliefs. I myself consider gambling just as an exciting game.

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I think Gambling is prohibited in some religious. That's why people who believe in God or believe in the religion doesn’t like gambling. I know, in Islam gambling is Haram. If someone do gambling and lives hos life on that, he will be thrown to hell.

My family also Doesn't support gambling. People here says, they will die without eating but never earn by gambling.

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Quote from: audaciousbeing on September 10, 2019, 12:35:04 PM

The view is not of your mum alone because it cuts across every spheres of human endeavours and the reason is not far fetched which was what was obtainable in the past as at when they were growing up. People who engage in gambling at the time are seen as social menace who are people that are lazy and decide to see gambling as a quick way to get rich and we have seen people also use the route as a means to launder their ill gotten wealth.

Truth be told, even in today's dispensation, there have been argument and release of "dirty money" finding its way into gambling but its not as profound as its being said because today we have the KYC being applied to gambling whether online or offline where gambling sites are made to comply with.

It is just absurd that morality is no longer a thing of paramount importance in today’s world if not, we would admit that gambling is a complete disaster to the society and a plague that should be avoided especially by our children. This shit is addictive and online platform has made it easier for underage kids that should be focused with their education spend unnecessary time on gambling site.

I never liked gambling until few years ago, my friends succeeded I convincing me that it isn’t just an avenue for quick money but can also be played for fun, this I tried and I am impressed but all the same, I in support of the opinion that money gotten from gambling is nothing but dirty money.

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Well, the words Dirty money is that money came from stolen and something you are committing crimes just for money or those illegal activities that you can earn money. If you had gambled with provably fair with your opponents or even the house edge without cheating the outcome on that is clean money and that is not dirty money. Indeed, the profit on gambling through honest way is not a dirty money.

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Quote from: Darker45 on September 10, 2019, 04:06:16 AM

This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). ^[1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. ^[2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?

these are basically to avoid doing gambling , because many lose in gambling eventually many gamblers risk a lot and put them in trouble so many things are said like this so to avoid doing and thinking of gambling

You’re not getting the point here mate,it’s not about the restriction on why OP asked about the topic it’s about what or where can be the gambling money lined if

For me it’s not a dirty money of you use your money camping from work or other good ways of profiteering,and how you handle to play

I f you first feed you family and the extra money goes to gamble that’s ok.

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If Gambling money is dirty money then what happens to all the money that gets back into circulation from gambling winnings and comes to us as clean Fiat money....so are we going to stop using it, I don't think so!

Am sure this is what elders say to discourage the younger ones from gambling and not because it's dirty money.

And as far as I know since gamblers rarely win and come with money from home, then it's most likely that gambling houses have clean money and we use the dirt when we not playing.

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Even though gambling results are dirty money, they don't care because what they need is profits that can be obtained in a short way.
and pleasure will be a reason for those who want good luck, and in my religious teachings gambling is also prohibited but they still bet even though they risk losing everything but that will not scare them.

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IMO, gambling money is dirty money,
I am a religious person and don't play gambling very often,
based on the teachings of my religious teacher, that gambling is the root of all causes of violence,
this is what I think is the cause of money from gambling is dirty.

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Quote from: hahay on September 19, 2019, 02:24:19 PM

I realize that every group or religion or whatever it is has at least a different view of gambling, despite the fact that despite different religions there are still those who consider gambling money dirty and I admit it. IMO, there is nothing wrong about this even though at this time we can say it is an old-fashioned view, but because of the religion and advice of parents about gambling, then I think that old-fashioned view or not depends on the perception of each individual because gambling continues to grow and increasingly many people who gamble I feel gambling is part of the lifestyle for those who like to gamble.

Gambling has now got to be common as a lifestyle of the present generation. From every religious view it is against the religious following or dirty money. There is a saying in my locality, liquor, women and gambling could ruin your life easily. We need to understand the limits and gamble, and it is an easy money though we risk our own money. This too is a reason for people to say it as dirty money.

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