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I realize that every group or religion or whatever it is has at least a different view of gambling, despite the fact that despite different religions there are still those who consider gambling money dirty and I admit it. IMO, there is nothing wrong about this even though at this time we can say it is an old-fashioned view, but because of the religion and advice of parents about gambling, then I think that old-fashioned view or not depends on the perception of each individual because gambling continues to grow and increasingly many people who gamble I feel gambling is part of the lifestyle for those who like to gamble.
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This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.
My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]
I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.
And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]
What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?
Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/
My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]
I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.
And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]
What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?
Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/
In a religious point of view it is. However, gambling has been part of our culture and daily lives and also it is a big business industry which I think helps the economy. Even some big casinos help charities and foes their social responsibility. So, I think it depends on what view are you looking at gambling.
Meanwhile, the benefit and help which the gambling company provided to our societies are one of the reason why I don't consider gambling money as dirty money.
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In a religious point of view it is. However, gambling has been part of our culture and daily lives and also it is a big business industry which I think helps the economy. Even some big casinos help charities and foes their social responsibility. So, I think it depends on what view are you looking at gambling.
This will be depending on which country and what community you’re living mate because there are countries that consider gambling is really illegal so that’s another storyAnd there are community as well that treat gambling as part of their daily living,so in which you live there’s appropriate treatment for gambling
So from that you will differentiate if gambling money is dirty or not
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.
My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]
I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.
And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]
What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?
Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/
My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]
I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.
And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]
What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?
Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/
In a religious point of view it is. However, gambling has been part of our culture and daily lives and also it is a big business industry which I think helps the economy. Even some big casinos help charities and foes their social responsibility. So, I think it depends on what view are you looking at gambling.
I count gambling money is dirty because it is from different kinds of people who goes there. Most gamblers go for gambling to multiply their money. Gamblers are selfish,they want to have the money in there. There are lots of baf attitude just to win in gambling site. Example,Some are from robbery.so l count it as a dirty money.
But we cannot blame the gamblers because they always play gambling every day. That will be their responsibility to take care of their money, but we can suggest they not used their money in a huge amount. If they don't want to listen to us, then it is up to them because that is their money.
Some of the gamblers are selfish, but the others are not, and we cannot judge all of them are selfish. Yes, we realize that many of them have a bad attitude when they are playing gambling, but as long as they can control themselves in the gambling games, I think we could let them decide to continue or to stop playing gambling.
The money is dirty, or not will depend on where we see the money come from, and we should respect what they did.
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.
My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]
I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.
And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]
What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?
Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/
I remember my dad when brought me to a Casino in Cebu and all the winnings that we have are all accounted and never mixed with the regular money that we have. We bought food, we use it pay the hotel bill, buy some local items to bring home, but never put it together with the money that never came from gambling example put is inside the same wallet, my dad says its bad luck, literally its like dirty money, he set it aside from the clean ones. My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]
I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.
And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]
What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?
Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/
People should start questioning motifs of people more than blindly reading everything on the internet.
The sources quoted by the OP are questionable and biased opinions by people who have their own propaganda against gambling. If you are fed by this propaganda be happy with it and dont gamble but for those who are gamblers they are fully aware of what they use to gamble with and it is their own personal choice to gamble or not.
Truely sometimes addiction makes people do wrong things and get money from wrong sources. But there is no need to comment on that because they chose to go to the wrong side of the world instead of stopping their desire to gamble.
The sources quoted by the OP are questionable and biased opinions by people who have their own propaganda against gambling. If you are fed by this propaganda be happy with it and dont gamble but for those who are gamblers they are fully aware of what they use to gamble with and it is their own personal choice to gamble or not.
Truely sometimes addiction makes people do wrong things and get money from wrong sources. But there is no need to comment on that because they chose to go to the wrong side of the world instead of stopping their desire to gamble.
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Truely sometimes addiction makes people do wrong things and get money from wrong sources
Interesting.
The addiction thing is probably responsible for people (kids especially) stealing money to gamble. This could explain why addicted kids in my school days would always have money issue with their parents. It's most likely due to addiction because the kids would never stop taking things without their parents permission
Well, I don't agree because you did not steal it and you did not take that money by force and if you win then it is because you are lucky. The gambling industry is legal because if not then the people who work there is receiving dirty money if that is your perception to the money coming from it. It is just when you won huge from gambling, it is not something you can be proud of yourself.
While your solution makes sense we must also understand that some people have personalities that make them more likely to get addicted to something, so even if you were to replace habits that you may think as negative those people will just redirect their addiction to something else and as we know something that may be considered to be harmless can still be very damaging to people if moderation is not exercised, so no matter how much we try there are some people that cannot be helped no matter what we do.
I think all this is based on mindset. No one is born with an addictive nature. Those that become addicted or suffer addiction didn't consider playing with wisdom. You have mentioned moderation in your post and this is the very thing most gamblers suffer from.To those who play for fun and yet get addicted, they feel their all-round happiness and joy is tied to gambling, so they are willing to stay all day gambling and in no time they become addicted and to those playing for money, theirs is always worst because they are just desperate to make it at all cost. These kind of people are the reasons behind gambling being seen as bad and dirty.
People should start questioning motifs of people more than blindly reading everything on the internet.
The sources quoted by the OP are questionable and biased opinions by people who have their own propaganda against gambling. If you are fed by this propaganda be happy with it and dont gamble but for those who are gamblers they are fully aware of what they use to gamble with and it is their own personal choice to gamble or not.
Truely sometimes addiction makes people do wrong things and get money from wrong sources. But there is no need to comment on that because they chose to go to the wrong side of the world instead of stopping their desire to gamble.
The sources quoted by the OP are questionable and biased opinions by people who have their own propaganda against gambling. If you are fed by this propaganda be happy with it and dont gamble but for those who are gamblers they are fully aware of what they use to gamble with and it is their own personal choice to gamble or not.
Truely sometimes addiction makes people do wrong things and get money from wrong sources. But there is no need to comment on that because they chose to go to the wrong side of the world instead of stopping their desire to gamble.
I don’t think is dirty money as long as players are playing by their free will and no one is forcing them.The gamblers are all trying to win and since they all are playing by their free will they don’t consider the winning amount of money as dirty or not correct.
Any particular reason why gambling money is considered dirty money? Is it because the profit you get is actually the loss of other person? Well, you see, no one forced anyone to gamble in a casino. They joined on their own will and lost their money. They knew the risk that was associated with it.
I don't think that there is any specific reason why gambling money would consider as dirty money. I think this is just belief of society and religion. But this might be one reason that you mentioned. Because when you are winning, someone is losing other end. Although everyone know the risk of gambling but they feel very bad after lost money. Who know if someone lost money which was hold for family feed. Perhaps that's the reason why society & religion doesn't like gambling. What I believe, any bad thing would not support any any religion and that's why I respect their beliefs.
Buddy, fact is that our parent's generation had ways of making money and they thought those are the only legit ways. They mostly don't consider gambling and some other internet money as actually honestly earned money. So that's why they see gambling as such. It seems to them you didnt really work but you earned lol.
NB//: I'm speaking as it pertains to my country of origin though...thanks.
NB//: I'm speaking as it pertains to my country of origin though...thanks.
I think about sin there are no old or maybe new fashion or maybe mindset. Because it is already fixed and sin is a sin. Maybe what can we do is believe by ourself, i mean if we like gambling, just play and don't listen to other's comments. And for others, even it is a sin but disturb other people who want to do what they want to do is bad thing. As long it is not crime.
There's some contradicting principle when it comes to religion and the law of the land, but every citizen follow the law of the land as will be punish if we will not or break a law. Gambling could be illegal to some countries but in some countries it is not, so this means that every country has a different belief and it could be the religion that could affect the people who runs the government as they are the ones who are making the law. So here's a simple trick, if gambling is illegal in your country and you want to play, then transfer to another country that is gambling friendly and if your religion does not allow you to gamble, you always have a choice to change religion.
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.
My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]
I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.
And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]
What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?
Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/
My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]
I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.
And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]
What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?
Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/
Yes I'm still considered gambling as a dirty or not good to people. Gambling teach us to be greedy when it comes to money it can lead to addiction so if you get addicted with gambling then it is for you to get out. So if you want to gamble make sure it is just for fun and don't considered it as a way in gaining money. Gambling has been discovered for leisure time only.
I count gambling money is dirty because it is from different kinds of people who goes there. Most gamblers go for gambling to multiply their money. Gamblers are selfish,they want to have the money in there. There are lots of baf attitude just to win in gambling site. Example,Some are from robbery.so l count it as a dirty money.
If you do talk on passing that robbed money from Player A to Player B by means of winning into a particular casino game then i dont see for it to be relevant nor valid.How about on considering on getting some fiat money as change into your bill came from the same aspect? Does it consider dirty? Think twice.
I count gambling money is dirty because it is from different kinds of people who goes there. Most gamblers go for gambling to multiply their money. Gamblers are selfish,they want to have the money in there. There are lots of baf attitude just to win in gambling site. Example,Some are from robbery.so l count it as a dirty money.
Any particular reason why gambling money is considered dirty money? Is it because the profit you get is actually the loss of other person? Well, you see, no one forced anyone to gamble in a casino. They joined on their own will and lost their money. They knew the risk that was associated with it. I guess people makeup those "dirty money" stuffs to avoid people from becoming a gamble addict.
I can understand why people still hold those beliefs about gambling, as we know a person that is addicted to gambling can lose everything very quickly but they are a very small portion of all of those that gamble, and it could be argued that those that are addicted to gambling could have gotten addicted to something else and still lose their money even if gambling was forbidden, so while I respect those that have those views I do not have any problem with someone that gambles for fun.
Exactly. Lots of things that are considered legal can lead people to addiction. Examples are soft-drink, sugar, tasty food, games, etc.
Basically enjoying any fun thing that has more harmful than harmless side could lead to addiction.
So I guess one of the solutions to addiction is to gradually replace the addictive things with fun things that are similar but beneficial & harmless to the enjoyers
If gambling is forbidden in your country, obviously you will not be gambling.
You are not just neglecting your responsibility in your religion but you are neglecting the belief your family and your society has shown to you.
Don't gamble if you know that it is not an activity you should do. If an Islam wanted to gamble, better quit being an Islam so he can do what he wants. It is not just dirty money but dirty personality you will be having if you commit that forbidden act.
Yes. Like my religion will say, you cannot serve God and mammon. If you are for gambling, then stay for gambling and if your religion is against it, then flee from it. There is no point living a double standard life and living in confusion. You are not just neglecting your responsibility in your religion but you are neglecting the belief your family and your society has shown to you.
Don't gamble if you know that it is not an activity you should do. If an Islam wanted to gamble, better quit being an Islam so he can do what he wants. It is not just dirty money but dirty personality you will be having if you commit that forbidden act.
If the reason to play is for money, there are other ways to make money, mustn’t be on gambling alone. I dislike it when people live a confused life. If my culture or belief was against gambling, I would not have any reason to be a part of it. The above poster has explained better on this, that will be like a stain on your personality, so you are advised to quit and focus on your religion.
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