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September 15, 2019, 05:40:51 AM
Gambling money is not dirty because we also risk our money to earn those,this is not the amount that we can just get easily because the truth is we mostly lose than winning in gambling

For me dirty money came from illegal activities so not unless the gambling is considered illegal in your place the that’s another story I guess



But for me?even if gambling is illegal declared in my country yet I will gamble and won’t consider this a dirty money ,no matter what they say or do
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September 14, 2019, 11:58:04 PM
If you think that way, then there is much more "dirty money" on the streets....

Btw. lottery is the same, but why is lottery more accepted in our society then gambling Huh This is something i don't understand at all Roll Eyes

Many people do not consider lottery as a form of gambling.  They consider  the gambling and lottery two different things and therefore they feel no hesitation in playing the lottery and participating in the lottery.   Although I totally disagree with their point of view as lottery is similar to gambling.
If gambling is a dirty money then lotteries are the same.
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September 14, 2019, 07:44:40 AM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]


for the Islamic view, money from gambling should not be used let alone spent on daily needs. but in my opinion no matter how big the winnings obtained from gambling of course the money will not last long, without us knowing money from gambling results will run out faster because most are only used for pleasure

If gambling is forbidden in your country, obviously you will not be gambling.

You are not just neglecting your responsibility in your religion but you are neglecting the belief your family and your society has shown to you.

Don't gamble if you know that it is not an activity you should do. If an Islam wanted to gamble, better quit being an Islam so he can do what he wants. It is not just dirty money but dirty personality you will be having if you commit that forbidden act.
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September 14, 2019, 07:34:52 AM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]


for the Islamic view, money from gambling should not be used let alone spent on daily needs. but in my opinion no matter how big the winnings obtained from gambling of course the money will not last long, without us knowing money from gambling results will run out faster because most are only used for pleasure

Yes, I agree. It's like a "hot money" that will not stay with us in a long time. Maybe that is why many gamblers cannot save their win money because they are spending to buy anything they want. Besides that, if someone considers gambling money is dirty money, then we cannot say anything because we have different opinion and perspective about gambling. But if we don't talk about religion, I think money from gambling is not dirty money, especially if gambling is allowed in our places.
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September 13, 2019, 06:24:06 PM
Gambling is an age old activity. As long as a person gambles in moderation on an occasional basis as a form of entertainment, then it is ok. But there are some people who can't control themselves and bet more than they can afford to lose. In the end, these gambling addicts end up losing their money, house, jobs, families, etc. Gambling can have negative effects, but so can alcohol, tobacco, etc. Lottery is a form of gambling and millions of people around the world buy the occasional lottery ticket. Is that a bad thing? As long as it's done in moderation, then it can't cause too much harm.
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September 13, 2019, 05:30:30 PM
If talking about religion for the problem of gambling, of course it would be wrong.
So money from gambling is not dirty money, as long as you don't associate it all with religion.
That is their beliefs and what their elders say.
With that, we can't push them to change their mind or give them some education and have to know also that some gamblers are involved in illegal activities. With all that matters and differences, we should have to take it aside and to believe what we have to think about gambling.
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September 13, 2019, 04:45:57 PM
If talking about religion for the problem of gambling, of course it would be wrong.

I strongly agree if people who say as long as the way is right without harming others, it can still be considered true.

The example said @Ranly123, I very much agree with the idea.

So money from gambling is not dirty money, as long as you don't associate it all with religion.
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September 13, 2019, 04:59:22 AM
Depends on their beliefs because even it is dirty money it still money and we can buy needs because of money.
Money is not dirty. The dirty one is how they earn money.

Sadly, the OP said that Gambling money is dirty, but he uses the BSpin Casino signature.
Let me know the opinion of the OP. Is promoting gambling a dirty thing?
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September 13, 2019, 04:25:54 AM
Today's generation, money is what we need to survive. So whether it's from gambling or not, as long as it's legal then I will consider it clean. Money from crime is what we should consider dirty since it came from a source in which it was taken forcibly.
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September 13, 2019, 04:14:49 AM
Going by the ethical ways or in lime light of religious belief, it is very wrong for anyone to get their self involve into gambling because its forbidden in the holy books. Christianity and Islam vehemently worn their worshippers against gambling but, many have took to the same way to make their money even though it is forbidden. Basically, any money earned from gambling is actually dirty money and should not be use to donate to the religious house.
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September 13, 2019, 04:08:34 AM
If you are an ultra-religious person or works in religious organizations, you will definitely not accept donations of any kinds coming from gambling it's a big no-no to you and the organization that you represents.

But if you are an average person and a liberal one you will not treat gambling money as dirty money, as long as that money can help you and your family, it's how you look at it and it's on your belief.

Gambling issue is not necessarily a religious debate. Gambling addiction can affect any society. So both secular and religious views should be welcomed in debate like this. Who knows, you could find good ideas from all contributions.
I'm not against gambling. I don't see the need to be against it if people are taught to gambling in moderation
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September 13, 2019, 03:15:25 AM
If you think that way, then there is much more "dirty money" on the streets....

Btw. lottery is the same, but why is lottery more accepted in our society then gambling Huh This is something i don't understand at all Roll Eyes
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September 13, 2019, 03:10:50 AM
To define 'dirty money' is money obtained unlawfully or immorally.
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong

But OP also mentioned Islam in which I think he’s Religion and since it was forbidden from Muslim then it become Dirty money.no matter how good we deal with gambling yet it will be a Negative as not allowed by their religion and that’s the sad reality
Also there are countries that treat gambling as illegal activities so this also applied to the people live in those countries
It’s not about what religion think about gambling but what we think. In my religion, gambling is a taboo an anyone found gambling is deal with accordingly but I thank God for crypto gambling that helps us play anonymously without the awareness of anyone.

I asked my parents the reason gambling is highly detested among many people and religion and the reason she gave did not make any sense to me, this is probably the reason I concluded within me never to adhere to their opinion, but to follow my mind. Gambling to me, isn’t a bad idea and the money earned is very clean because I worked for it. So what people, religion or society believes is not as important as what we particularly believe.
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September 13, 2019, 02:31:48 AM
Governments created fiat money,governments allowed gambling sites,people lose or win from gambling that is simple structure of gambling.

So money coming from any source created by the same one so its not a dirty money though.
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September 13, 2019, 02:20:37 AM
Gambling exists since humans started their societies all over the globe, and in spite of how we might paint gambling with all the preconceptions and modern trends, it is just a game... can we consider this money as dirty money? what about anyone that wins the lottery, or plays scratch and win someting? I think this becoming just an anti-gambling religion...
(of course tht gambling has it's dark side, but everything that is done out of balance has a dark side, food, lazyness, even too much exercise can become additions)
 
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September 13, 2019, 01:56:13 AM

But OP also mentioned Islam in which I think he’s Religion and since it was forbidden from Muslim then it become Dirty money.no matter how good we deal with gambling yet it will be a Negative as not allowed by their religion and that’s the sad reality
Also there are countries that treat gambling as illegal activities so this also applied to the people live in those countries

It is about intent I always say as I understand and learn. And yes, strictly speaking this means as long as the income is from gambling even in a small way, then it is not possible for them to use it in a clean way.
But still it’s from gambling and no matter how they want to use it cleanly yet it came from prohibiting of their religious beliefs
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But this is all personal matter to me, the state should not meddle when the state gambles with the economy all the time!
Well for Op it’s not personal because it’s religious,and what are good for gamblers are bad from the religion because it’s written in their Koran as guess it is since I am not a Muslim but have a friends who’s gives me idea about the prohibition of this activities to them
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September 13, 2019, 01:45:08 AM
My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]
Searching answer based on religious view wouldn't be a wise approach for us. Not only gambling is forbidden in Islam but also there is much more earning related things are forbidden too. AFAIK using or producing alcohol is also forbidden in Islam. So as a trader if you buy alcohol supplier company's share for trading then obviously that's gonna be forbidden in another view. So if we go with this jurisdiction than we will have to say that trading is also forbidden but most of the Islamic countries have their own stock exchange. In my view investment strategy totally depends on investors own where few of us careful about risk factor and few of us are ready to take the high risk with gambling.

   
I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.
Its completely his own thinking about gambling where you will easily find many people who are enough positive about gambling related earning.
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September 13, 2019, 01:36:27 AM
If you are an ultra-religious person or works in religious organizations, you will definitely not accept donations of any kinds coming from gambling it's a big no-no to you and the organization that you represents.

But if you are an average person and a liberal one you will not treat gambling money as dirty money, as long as that money can help you and your family, it's how you look at it and it's on your belief.
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September 13, 2019, 01:35:40 AM
To define 'dirty money' is money obtained unlawfully or immorally.
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong

But OP also mentioned Islam in which I think he’s Religion and since it was forbidden from Muslim then it become Dirty money.no matter how good we deal with gambling yet it will be a Negative as not allowed by their religion and that’s the sad reality
Also there are countries that treat gambling as illegal activities so this also applied to the people live in those countries
Yeah we respect those religious rules, but all the choices go back to everyone wants to follow it or not. I myself assume that dirty money is money generated from crimes such as theft, robbery, cheating, scamming and others thing that harm others people.
Yeah I understand you point mate but religion has their own rules and breaking it means crime(not literally)to them because that’s go against the will of the followers
But anyway in the end everyone will still have a conflict answering this matter because we have different views and stand about matters and added is our religious and non religious belief that will always hinder us from understanding
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September 13, 2019, 01:10:08 AM
This kind of topic is like they said about Bitcoin, "Criminals are using Bitcoin to commit illegal doings" then other said "How about fiat then? The US Dollar?"

Then if we will compare it with gambling, this is really what it meant. Where the money came from before using it to gambling? Is it came from illegal doings?
Because if YES, then I can say that it will become a dirty money. Not on the act of doing gambling as long as you gamble your money in legal and legit ways.
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