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Ucy
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September 12, 2019, 11:47:45 PM
You shouldn't be promoting it then.

There is nothing wrong in playing national lottery for example or betting with friends on who will win a game. I think gambling becomes wrong when you do it excessively.
Doesn't competition sound like gambling to you? I mean, we create businesses to win in market competition. Only few most prepared (out of millions businesses) end up out competing others in the competition. I guess this type of competition qualifies as skill-based gambling.
Life is a gamble. We gamble all the time whether we agree or not.
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September 12, 2019, 11:07:04 PM
Gambling money becomes dirty money if it was from illegal act in which it's not tolerable by law. It's difficult to regulate since a gambling sites can operate without the approval of the government. Personally as a gambler, I don't mind on it too much since I'm playing fairly through crypto gambling site. It's better to be anonymous in while gambling so if there will be such leak, your identity won't be revealed.
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September 12, 2019, 09:28:07 PM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]




Those church members would not even know that every people that donate huge money to them can verify it's not made illegally. In my country, our priests are always thankful when politicians donate huge money to them knowing that politicians get a lot  of dirty money. So why would we even be concern to be honest?  Yes, gambling is dirty money because most gamblers there does not use  hard earned money when they bet.
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September 12, 2019, 08:25:33 PM

I don't see it as something which is old fashioned as the religion (Christian and Muslim) is concern, gambling fund are dirty money but in a society where the economic is break down and alot of people are jobless. People consider gambling or working at a gambling company as a means of surviving which the reason why a lot of young folks are into sport gambling these days but its still better than stealing.
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September 12, 2019, 07:58:08 PM
You might see gambling money as a dirty money but in my own case I don't see it that way because I see playing gambling as a trading which one can make profit or make loses at the end of the end your play. But if that is the way you see it based on what your mother told you then don't bother to participate in gambling.
Well, it has to understand that people are different from each other and also their appreciations towards gambling. Not to condemn them just because they keep saying gambling is bad unless it has come from illegalities. Though we think gambling is full of trick but not actually it makes them illegal.

Well, it sometimes to ignore them...we play in fair and there is no reason we think it bad.
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September 12, 2019, 07:54:57 PM
You might see gambling money as a dirty money but in my own case I don't see it that way because I see playing gambling as a trading which one can make profit or make loses at the end of the end your play. But if that is the way you see it based on what your mother told you then don't bother to participate in gambling.
I think It depends on the understanding of those people. Well on my own point of view it is not dirty money as long as you are fair on your opponent. I can call it clean money and I earned it in a fair game. The only dirty money is those come from who those committing crimes just to make money and also those come from dark web I guess. Cheesy In gambling, I don't think so.
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September 12, 2019, 04:55:39 PM
To define 'dirty money' is money obtained unlawfully or immorally.
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong

Dirty money can be classified indirectly and as mentioned it do pertains with religion.It might not be a serious matter on most religion but other
do consider this as a sin so therefore any money that being generated or earned by means of gambling will be considered dirty
We have seen that there are people who do make a living with gambling and i agree on what you said that money that havent been obtained by means of
illegal aspect cant be considered dirty.

it is more of personal perception when you identify gambling as dirty money. and what the op described is directly related to religion. we cant blame others whose religion has strict standpoint when it comes to gambling but they should not pick out other gamblers and labeled them as sinners! we only need respect in this space.
Whatever you believed in, stick to it if you can but dont let others suffer from your beliefs.
we are already in the age where we should be open to things that are outside of your boundaries. the world doesnt revolve in one religion only!
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September 12, 2019, 04:53:22 PM
For me, dirty money is still money. No matter what they think as long as I am doing nothing wrong and I received that money as a donation, I would accept that since in the first place, I don't of that is dirty money or not, all I know is I am grateful to that person helping me.

but what if you are aware that the your friend is a thief and he stole that money to someone else and he gave you some of it  .

will you still accept it ?  if that scenario happens to me i think i will think twice . 

 but i your friend is a good friend and he earns his money thru his own hardwork but he gambles it and if he won and gave you some , that will be more acceptable  and its not what we call a dirty money   .
To be honest no one would refuse money at any cost but all of them are going to accept it. I am one of those gamblers who use to gamble with small amount but want to increase it still o don’t see anything bad in it I work hard to gain it I spend my time and work in casino for hours then how it can be dirty for me.
No one has the right on what you gonna do with your money as long those money are being won legally then I don't see for it to be dirty.
Unless if you do cheat up someone or the house then that's considered illegal or dirty.
On religious aspect there are religion who do make gambling as a prohibited one and once you engage with that and the money being earned then
its considered not clean at all.
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September 12, 2019, 04:35:01 PM
For me, dirty money is still money. No matter what they think as long as I am doing nothing wrong and I received that money as a donation, I would accept that since in the first place, I don't of that is dirty money or not, all I know is I am grateful to that person helping me.

but what if you are aware that the your friend is a thief and he stole that money to someone else and he gave you some of it  .

will you still accept it ?  if that scenario happens to me i think i will think twice . 
That’s the fact mate and you got it there,if the money came from a bad or not so good ways that’s considered as bad money and if you accept that with your knowledge(or even without yours)still immoral and not acceptable because it looks like justifying bad things to good(like Robin Hood  stealing to feed others)
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 but i your friend is a good friend and he earns his money thru his own hardwork but he gambles it and if he won and gave you some , that will be more acceptable  and its not what we call a dirty money   .
Exactly that is a good money ,not unless your religion is against gambling or your government it will be turn as Sin money still
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September 12, 2019, 11:14:30 AM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



If you are considering gambling in terms of religion that these are not old fashioned views. If Gambling is prohibited in certain religion then it will remain prohibited forever and you cannot decline them by declaring them old fashioned. Other then this, no one considered gambling as a dirty money. People risk their real money to get more money from gambling and they do not want it to be called "Dirty money".
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September 12, 2019, 10:58:29 AM
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For me, dirty money is still money. No matter what they think as long as I am doing nothing wrong and I received that money as a donation, I would accept that since in the first place, I don't of that is dirty money or not, all I know is I am grateful to that person helping me.

but what if you are aware that the your friend is a thief and he stole that money to someone else and he gave you some of it  .

will you still accept it ?  if that scenario happens to me i think i will think twice . 

 but i your friend is a good friend and he earns his money thru his own hardwork but he gambles it and if he won and gave you some , that will be more acceptable  and its not what we call a dirty money   .
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September 12, 2019, 10:01:56 AM
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To define 'dirty money' is money obtained unlawfully or immorally.
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong

But OP also mentioned Islam in which I think he’s Religion and since it was forbidden from Muslim then it become Dirty money.no matter how good we deal with gambling yet it will be a Negative as not allowed by their religion and that’s the sad reality
Also there are countries that treat gambling as illegal activities so this also applied to the people live in those countries
Yeah we respect those religious rules, but all the choices go back to everyone wants to follow it or not. I myself assume that dirty money is money generated from crimes such as theft, robbery, cheating, scamming and others thing that harm others people.

Obviously since if you are reading the OP, dirty money is obtained unmorally and unlawfully, and you just ellaborate that. For me, dirty money is still money. No matter what they think as long as I am doing nothing wrong and I received that money as a donation, I would accept that since in the first place, I don't of that is dirty money or not, all I know is I am grateful to that person helping me.
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September 12, 2019, 08:35:57 AM
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There so many religion on the world and every religion have their own faith and rules. Personally I don't hate any religion even that's no mine. I believe so many religion believe gambling is a dirty way to earn money. Money can't be dirty but the earning way could be dirty. I respect them also who had not received money from gambling. Because everyone should respect at least his own religion. So I don't think we should make argue about that.

That's just the fact, money will always be money, it doesn't matter how it was earned. The source of money could be considering dirty that's based on your religious beliefs but not the money itself. Gambling is illegal in some countries that means earning of money through gambling will be considered a dirty (dishonest) form of earning money in those countries but it doesn't automatically means earning money via gambling is wrong or dirty everywhere else.

In my opinion the world is just filled with so many religion and they're just contradicting themselves. The only reason behind gambling been tagged a dirty source of income is that for you to earn money, you have to take another individuals money so this religion are just trying to discourage the act of taking other people money but forgetting same time applies to other form of earning like trading, investing etc.
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September 12, 2019, 08:01:59 AM
#96
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



Yes l also consider gambling money is a dirty money because as a member in the church we are not allowed to gamble because its bad. So a money from gambling is bad too. Because in gambling they used to be greedy, selfish and other bad characteristic  just to win the game.
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September 12, 2019, 07:36:24 AM
#95
To define 'dirty money' is money obtained unlawfully or immorally.
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong

But OP also mentioned Islam in which I think he’s Religion and since it was forbidden from Muslim then it become Dirty money.no matter how good we deal with gambling yet it will be a Negative as not allowed by their religion and that’s the sad reality
Also there are countries that treat gambling as illegal activities so this also applied to the people live in those countries
Yeah we respect those religious rules, but all the choices go back to everyone wants to follow it or not. I myself assume that dirty money is money generated from crimes such as theft, robbery, cheating, scamming and others thing that harm others people.
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September 12, 2019, 06:25:09 AM
#94
Just like i said before if you see gambling from religion side then obviously almost all of religions forbid gambling and they will never accept donation from gambling earning besides they called it as dirty money and it's also sin but i think all of it depend on each person to see gambling earning as dirty money or not and i think there always be debate regarding gambling and religion
Ucy
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September 12, 2019, 06:15:20 AM
#93
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/


I can understand why people still hold those beliefs about gambling, as we know a person that is addicted to gambling can lose everything very quickly but they are a very small portion of all of those that gamble, and it could be argued that those that are addicted to gambling could have gotten addicted to something else and still lose their money even if gambling was forbidden, so while I respect those that have those views I do not have any problem with someone that gambles for fun.


Exactly. Lots of things that are considered legal can lead people to addiction. Examples are soft-drink, sugar, tasty food, games, etc.
Basically enjoying any fun thing that has more harmful than harmless side could lead to addiction.
So I guess one of the solutions to addiction is to gradually replace the addictive things with fun things that are similar but beneficial & harmless to the enjoyers
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September 12, 2019, 05:11:38 AM
#92
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/


gambling in the view of Islam is indeed haram and is not very good. people whose religion is strong surely know that it is strictly prohibited. but we are just ordinary people, people think differently. my advice still think about the trust that you believe right now. for Islam money is not everything, but faith takes precedence.
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September 12, 2019, 04:45:45 AM
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This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/


Ah I understand what and how they think, you don't have to build your happiness on someone's sadness, yeah, I agree with you but did anyone pushes any player to sell house and gamble with that amount of money? Of course no but what to do with people who gamble just for fun? Are such incomes still bad? For example imagine I have dedicated budget (max 50$ monthly) to gamble with, I gamble daily with 2$ just for fun because this casino offers game which I like with it's game idea, structure and design, can't find something 100% analogue for free. Is there still anything wrong here? There are also some gamblers who gamble with thousands of dollars because they are very rich and it's nothing for them, they get extra fun from it.
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September 12, 2019, 04:20:42 AM
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I respect other religions belief about gambling but I dont agree that gambling money is considered dirty because you didnt obtain the money in illegal form, you accumulate those through winning.

I dont feel any guilt everytime I win, its meant for me since I just play and didnt harm others.

Well we have different opinion regarding this and it depends on what you believe in.
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