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Quote from: boyptc on November 14, 2024, 03:35:24 PM

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These streamers have channels with a huge number of real subscribers so that the streamers can get deals from the gambling platforms that they will promote in each show episode. It is unlikely that this number of subscribers are forced to remain on the channel, or that they are all new to the field, given the number of live views. The number may reach thousands on some channels.
Who watches those streamers? And who is susceptible to them?
I find my question about “Who are the people who follow and are influenced by these channels” valid and worthy of an answer?

It is likely that the viewers of those streamers are also gamblers that are looking to have some fun with the casino that they're affiliated with it. So, the other classification are the ones that like to watch them because they're very entertaining.

The latter are the ones that don't mind watching them and without being influenced of going on with the casino that they promote.

There are still people that don't get easily influenced by the people they follow because of beliefs and stands that they have for themselves. But if it's about entertainment value, they're on it.

Watching streamers play in casinos has a significant impact on the behavior of viewers, especially young people. The direct marketing of live gaming creates a false sense of ease and quick wins, which may encourage some to try gambling for themselves. Additionally, gambling is often portrayed as an exciting and lucrative lifestyle, which increases its appeal to young people.

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Quote from: Miles2006 on November 14, 2024, 04:55:09 PM

Quote from: Oluwa-btc on November 14, 2024, 03:49:50 PM

Exactly they are just promoting the fun with the fact that it'll definitely lead a gambler to losses thereby making them make a whole lot of money from their streaming and this is why alot of gamblers shouldn't relent on gambling with what they can afford to lose. Because the streamers are paid to do their job of making sure more people see reasons to gamble thereby fueling the room for addiction.

Addiction is by choice definitely anyone can develop addiction by mere watching regular gambling streams and it still has to do with the viewers choice.

I think we should not forget one thing in this case which is not everyone knows and realizes that the activity has the potential to make them addicted, meaning addiction is not a matter of choice when we talk about someone who really does not know that gambling has the potential to make someone addicted, I think it might be right to say that addiction is something that happens without the person realizing it, and this is also one of the reasons why overcoming addiction problems is very difficult, none other than because they do not realize that they are already trapped in a cycle of addiction that endangers their lives.

On the other hand, as we know how bad the impacts that can be caused when someone is addicted and logically who wants to experience a downturn in their life? no one, so it is impossible for someone to intentionally do anything that can lead to addiction unless they do not know and realize that the impact of their actions can make them addicted.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on November 15, 2024, 08:07:11 AM

Sometimes it's not a choice anymore. We are too hooked on watching streamers and envy what they won or the results of their games so we took our game to another level without even thinking about the effects of it in the future. Some gamblers won't even realize they are gambling addicts now and all they know is that they still enjoy playing or they are not done chasing their losses.
Although I don't believe that streamers should be blamed when one gambler gets addicted or the culprit for putting more wood in the fire. A gambler using his own common sense should realize that those could be fakes and they are winning most of the time because they are planted there and all they will do is show the public their wins even though it's not real money. We won't be able to mimic them because somehow it's all scripted.

Absolutely, gamblers are fully responsible for their own actions rather than blaming influencers, because in the end, it’s our decision to follow what they say. Money can definitely influence people, especially when streamers show off huge winnings. We might feel like they misled us, but the real question is: why don't we stop ourselves if we knew that is wrong? If we’ve become addicted to gambling, it’s likely because we allowed it, not because someone else led us there.

But on the other side, streamers also have some responsibility, knowing there are young audiences watching them, which means they need to be careful in their doings as well.

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Quote from: Miles2006 on November 14, 2024, 04:55:09 PM

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Quote from: SamReomo on October 21, 2024, 06:36:36 PM

Yes, I believe that can be true because I've personally seen those streamers spending a lot of money on bets and they even lose some money sometimes and make a lot at other times only to show that how good they're at gambling. It's better to avoid those streamers to be safe from losses.

Exactly they are just promoting the fun with the fact that it'll definitely lead a gambler to losses thereby making them make a whole lot of money from their streaming and this is why alot of gamblers shouldn't relent on gambling with what they can afford to lose. Because the streamers are paid to do their job of making sure more people see reasons to gamble thereby fueling the room for addiction.

Addiction is by choice definitely anyone can develop addiction by mere watching regular gambling streams and it still has to do with the viewers choice. IMO they earn their money and play games some might be false will others play with real amount, unknowingly they’re promoting addiction which i don’t support. Observe carefully addicted gamblers are the ones who chase after gambling streams meaning they’re already addicted, I can’t remember the last time I spent my time watching gambling stream and i don’t find it 100% good at same time you’ll get tempted playing their games but no win guarantee.

Sometimes it's not a choice anymore. We are too hooked on watching streamers and envy what they won or the results of their games so we took our game to another level without even thinking about the effects of it in the future. Some gamblers won't even realize they are gambling addicts now and all they know is that they still enjoy playing or they are not done chasing their losses.
Although I don't believe that streamers should be blamed when one gambler gets addicted or the culprit for putting more wood in the fire. A gambler using his own common sense should realize that those could be fakes and they are winning most of the time because they are planted there and all they will do is show the public their wins even though it's not real money. We won't be able to mimic them because somehow it's all scripted.

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Quote from: livingfree on November 14, 2024, 04:34:49 PM

I think that if someone goes to a random gambling streamer, there is a chance that you'll see some viewers blaming the streamers on how they've ended up losing their fortune.

Losing their composure and how they have became addicted, they can't stand against themselves for blaming their own actions.

Even though there have been warnings about how the loss experienced will be your own responsibility, not because of other people or streamers.
Streamers only cooperate with gambling to promote their gambling and of course the winnings that streamers get are not purely because the system has set them up.

It's a common practice, but some beginners who see streamers earning millions of dollars from their gambling will automatically be triggered to get into gambling with the big money they have, without doing their research first.

Promoting fun or triggering addiction depends on who sees and who does it, because no one will be responsible for the loss caused by the spectacle given by the streamer.

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I believe there are generally two types of streamers in the online gambling space. The first type streams while genuinely risking their own money, showing their real wins and losses. The second type is usually sponsored or plays with fake money provided by the casino, which can make it look like they’re hitting big wins more often than reality. This often gives viewer false impression of the risks involved, similar to what streamers like Rostein are known for, or let me say most stake.com streamer does.

Personally, I can say that the wins that streamer gets can trigger my desire to gamble in the same way or style as them. Many gamblers try to find ways to win and usually the winning strategy can be obtained from watching streamers play or in other ways. Honestly, they can influence the interest of many viewers in gambling, especially if those watching them are gamblers who are looking for ways to win bets.

Streamers can be called influencers who can ultimately influence the interest of anyone who watches their games. Casinos work with these people to get more traffic from gamblers, but not all streamers are paid or sponsored by the casino. Some of them play for fun, others are paid to influence others.

It cannot be denied of course when we see a streamer get a big win, it does make us want to gamble too, the purpose of which is to be the same as the streamer who can get a big win, well for those who I think are still new to gambling they will think that they can be the same as the streamer by making a deposit and playing and then getting a big win, but for people who are experienced I think they won't care too much about what happens to the streamer, even if a big win happens it won't make them want to chase the win by gambling.
You are right, not all streamers work with casinos, some are just for fun or to seek their own popularity in this way, because now that many people are interested in gambling, of course there is a possibility that they can increase their popularity by gambling, especially if they can make their audience comfortable with their fun delivery.

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Quote from: milewilda on November 14, 2024, 02:21:27 AM

When you are really just that sensible into the things that happening around then you wont really be that making yourself that get easily addicted with gambling. You could really be able to adjust accordingly and as long you would really be that mindful about on whats happening and on the moment you've seen that you are gradually becoming that addicted, then this is the time that you would be making out some adjustment.
There would really be those individuals that do easily that getting boosted up whenever they do see someone who do make money and do make out engagement and lose up their control just because they've been expecting that too much. It isnt really that bad on having that kind of engagement with gambling but of course you will really be needing that self control and moderation.

Streamers are really just that doing their job on making up some exposure into a certain gambling site or any service. As long they are getting paid and do the job done then its something
that bring out that good income to them. They dont care nor mind into the people who are really that dealing with addiction because of what they do saw.

You are right because with having that thing, we can take care of ourselves and we will not trying to do something before we research for furthermore. We will thinks about the risk behind of that so we will not in rush when decide. And if we already do that but we see the chance for us to become addicted to gambling, we will trying to reduce or even stops ourselves from playing gambling and will distract our minds from gambling for a while.

We don't want to be addicted to gambling so we will do many ways and make sure that we can stay away from the gambling addiction. We will remember that gambling is just an entertainment and when we watch the streamers, that is because we want to know how they play but we don't think to follow what they do because that will be too risk for us.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on November 14, 2024, 03:49:50 PM

Quote from: SamReomo on October 21, 2024, 06:36:36 PM

Yes, I believe that can be true because I've personally seen those streamers spending a lot of money on bets and they even lose some money sometimes and make a lot at other times only to show that how good they're at gambling. It's better to avoid those streamers to be safe from losses.

Exactly they are just promoting the fun with the fact that it'll definitely lead a gambler to losses thereby making them make a whole lot of money from their streaming and this is why alot of gamblers shouldn't relent on gambling with what they can afford to lose. Because the streamers are paid to do their job of making sure more people see reasons to gamble thereby fueling the room for addiction.

Addiction is by choice definitely anyone can develop addiction by mere watching regular gambling streams and it still has to do with the viewers choice. IMO they earn their money and play games some might be false will others play with real amount, unknowingly they’re promoting addiction which i don’t support. Observe carefully addicted gamblers are the ones who chase after gambling streams meaning they’re already addicted, I can’t remember the last time I spent my time watching gambling stream and i don’t find it 100% good at same time you’ll get tempted playing their games but no win guarantee.

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Quote from: xLays on November 14, 2024, 04:13:32 PM

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Quote from: SamReomo on October 21, 2024, 06:36:36 PM

Yes, I believe that can be true because I've personally seen those streamers spending a lot of money on bets and they even lose some money sometimes and make a lot at other times only to show that how good they're at gambling. It's better to avoid those streamers to be safe from losses.

Exactly they are just promoting the fun with the fact that it'll definitely lead a gambler to losses thereby making them make a whole lot of money from their streaming and this is why alot of gamblers shouldn't relent on gambling with what they can afford to lose. Because the streamers are paid to do their job of making sure more people see reasons to gamble thereby fueling the room for addiction.

I believe there are generally two types of streamers in the online gambling space. The first type streams while genuinely risking their own money, showing their real wins and losses. The second type is usually sponsored or plays with fake money provided by the casino, which can make it look like they’re hitting big wins more often than reality. This often gives viewer false impression of the risks involved, similar to what streamers like Rostein are known for, or let me say most stake.com streamer does.

I guess we would know if they are sponsored if they have ads on their streams. For sure we will never get any substance by those streamers paid by the casino to streams their live. Since for sure that they would hype those casino and provably would not care about how their follow ends up. This is how they fuel their interest to gamble since this is their intention to gather more people to sign up on their links and hype the site they are promoting.

Also those people who doesn't have ads and just enjoying their games by streaming and communicating to people watching their stream I guess they are the one who's fun to watch with since provably we can see the real excitement since everything in their game session is random.

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Quote from: xLays on November 14, 2024, 04:13:32 PM

Quote from: Oluwa-btc on November 14, 2024, 03:49:50 PM

I believe there are generally two types of streamers in the online gambling space. The first type streams while genuinely risking their own money, showing their real wins and losses. The second type is usually sponsored or plays with fake money provided by the casino, which can make it look like they’re hitting big wins more often than reality. This often gives viewer false impression of the risks involved, similar to what streamers like Rostein are known for, or let me say most stake.com streamer does.

Personally, I can say that the wins that streamer gets can trigger my desire to gamble in the same way or style as them. Many gamblers try to find ways to win and usually the winning strategy can be obtained from watching streamers play or in other ways. Honestly, they can influence the interest of many viewers in gambling, especially if those watching them are gamblers who are looking for ways to win bets.

Streamers can be called influencers who can ultimately influence the interest of anyone who watches their games. Casinos work with these people to get more traffic from gamblers, but not all streamers are paid or sponsored by the casino. Some of them play for fun, others are paid to influence others.

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Quote from: serjent05 on November 14, 2024, 03:12:02 PM

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The reality is they are up for fun. But they don't know that there's an equal reaction to it on the opposite side and that's when one of their fans start to contain gambling addiction because they've seen the example through the gambling streamers.

Streamers are up for income not for fun, that is the reality that I believe. I also think that there are not ignorant about the fact that their action has huge effect on their viewers that is why some of the gambling streamers often reminds about responsible gambling.

It's true that they are up for income but as you can see that most of them are just enjoying it. So it is an incentivized way for them to have fun and so the income follows their passion because they've earned it.

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But I think as fans or viewers, we understand that there's a contagious element in there because that's gambling. No one is here to be blamed but it's all about accountability for ourselves for any results that we may get.

True that, we are responsible for our actions.

I think that if someone goes to a random gambling streamer, there is a chance that you'll see some viewers blaming the streamers on how they've ended up losing their fortune.

Losing their composure and how they have became addicted, they can't stand against themselves for blaming their own actions.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 21, 2024, 06:31:29 PM

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

It seems like this kind of thing has become an open secret especially when you see some streamers who like to introduce the name of the site just to attract attention, it is very natural that suspicions will arise where they will stream gambling and always win which makes this absurd.

As for the addiction problem, this depends on the viewers because sometimes in some conditions there are those who consider this just as entertainment so in the end they are not too interested in this kind of condition but it cannot be denied that some will definitely be trapped by marketing techniques like this.
It should be realized that these streamers only work for the promotion of the sites they play so this is just a professional form of work but many people are still naive enough to consider this a reality. Although not all streams do it with accounts that have been set up because there are definitely some who use real accounts but in the end the majority of gambling streamers all have the same goal in my opinion where they must have collaborated with several sites that will be considered by viewers as friendly sites and assume that if you play there you will get benefits quickly.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on November 14, 2024, 03:49:50 PM

Quote from: SamReomo on October 21, 2024, 06:36:36 PM

Yes, I believe that can be true because I've personally seen those streamers spending a lot of money on bets and they even lose some money sometimes and make a lot at other times only to show that how good they're at gambling. It's better to avoid those streamers to be safe from losses.

Exactly they are just promoting the fun with the fact that it'll definitely lead a gambler to losses thereby making them make a whole lot of money from their streaming and this is why alot of gamblers shouldn't relent on gambling with what they can afford to lose. Because the streamers are paid to do their job of making sure more people see reasons to gamble thereby fueling the room for addiction.

I believe there are generally two types of streamers in the online gambling space. The first type streams while genuinely risking their own money, showing their real wins and losses. The second type is usually sponsored or plays with fake money provided by the casino, which can make it look like they’re hitting big wins more often than reality. This often gives viewer false impression of the risks involved, similar to what streamers like Rostein are known for, or let me say most stake.com streamer does.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 21, 2024, 06:31:29 PM

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Yes, I am one of those who say that streamers do promotional broadcasts using fake accounts or accounts that have been provided by the casino, which accounts have been set up behind the scenes so that the chances of winning are high in any type of game that will be played by the streamers, I think the reason is clear that it doesn't make sense to see big wins that are very easy for these streamers to get, plus they do it like they don't feel any tension even though it is clear that they are betting with high stakes.

So with those who bet without feeling tense at all, I think that can be used as one reason to say that yes they bet using fake accounts where all the money in the account is fake money. On the other hand, as we know, how difficult it is to win, especially in casino games and that means the big wins that streamers achieve are unrealistic

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Quote from: SamReomo on October 21, 2024, 06:36:36 PM

Yes, I believe that can be true because I've personally seen those streamers spending a lot of money on bets and they even lose some money sometimes and make a lot at other times only to show that how good they're at gambling. It's better to avoid those streamers to be safe from losses.

Exactly they are just promoting the fun with the fact that it'll definitely lead a gambler to losses thereby making them make a whole lot of money from their streaming and this is why alot of gamblers shouldn't relent on gambling with what they can afford to lose. Because the streamers are paid to do their job of making sure more people see reasons to gamble thereby fueling the room for addiction.

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Quote from: Kavelj22 on November 14, 2024, 02:43:28 PM

These streamers have channels with a huge number of real subscribers so that the streamers can get deals from the gambling platforms that they will promote in each show episode. It is unlikely that this number of subscribers are forced to remain on the channel, or that they are all new to the field, given the number of live views. The number may reach thousands on some channels.
Who watches those streamers? And who is susceptible to them?
I find my question about “Who are the people who follow and are influenced by these channels” valid and worthy of an answer?

It is likely that the viewers of those streamers are also gamblers that are looking to have some fun with the casino that they're affiliated with it. So, the other classification are the ones that like to watch them because they're very entertaining.

The latter are the ones that don't mind watching them and without being influenced of going on with the casino that they promote.

There are still people that don't get easily influenced by the people they follow because of beliefs and stands that they have for themselves. But if it's about entertainment value, they're on it.

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Quote from: Kavelj22 on November 14, 2024, 02:43:28 PM

These streamers have channels with a huge number of real subscribers so that the streamers can get deals from the gambling platforms that they will promote in each show episode. It is unlikely that this number of subscribers are forced to remain on the channel, or that they are all new to the field, given the number of live views. The number may reach thousands on some channels.
Who watches those streamers? And who is susceptible to them?
I find my question about “Who are the people who follow and are influenced by these channels” valid and worthy of an answer?

Obviously people who followed gambling streamers are gambler themselves. A person would not find entertainment from these gambling streamers if they were not into gambling. I believe Gambling streamers are promoting the casino primarily, the fun part is secondary. And whether it fuels gambling addiction depends on the audience's control so I think the fueling addiction is subjective.

Quote from: livingfree on November 14, 2024, 02:37:13 PM

The reality is they are up for fun. But they don't know that there's an equal reaction to it on the opposite side and that's when one of their fans start to contain gambling addiction because they've seen the example through the gambling streamers.

Streamers are up for income not for fun, that is the reality that I believe. I also think that there are not ignorant about the fact that their action has huge effect on their viewers that is why some of the gambling streamers often reminds about responsible gambling.

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But I think as fans or viewers, we understand that there's a contagious element in there because that's gambling. No one is here to be blamed but it's all about accountability for ourselves for any results that we may get.

True that, we are responsible for our actions.

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These streamers have channels with a huge number of real subscribers so that the streamers can get deals from the gambling platforms that they will promote in each show episode. It is unlikely that this number of subscribers are forced to remain on the channel, or that they are all new to the field, given the number of live views. The number may reach thousands on some channels.
Who watches those streamers? And who is susceptible to them?
I find my question about “Who are the people who follow and are influenced by these channels” valid and worthy of an answer?

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The reality is they are up for fun. But they don't know that there's an equal reaction to it on the opposite side and that's when one of their fans start to contain gambling addiction because they've seen the example through the gambling streamers.

But I think as fans or viewers, we understand that there's a contagious element in there because that's gambling. No one is here to be blamed but it's all about accountability for ourselves for any results that we may get.

So, if a gambling streamer keeps on doing that, he's up for it for a living and that's his main niche to start with. But if a fan starts to get that feeling of addiction, there's a need to contain and stop that at least when it's starting to show some signs.

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