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It's because its what paying that's what, especially for small-medium level streamers. Streaming at the end of the day is a competitive business and with how the scene is already, a lot of people just can't make it as a fulltime thing. So what do they look for? Partnerships that pay more. And casinos are one of them at least. And how would casinos promote their owns better? Ofc with rigged accounts/odds. Even just setting a player account to have no balance limit is more than enough. Naturally streamers would say "No, we'd never do that Grin " but people aren't blind lol.

As for minors seeing their streams, they stream casino advertisements, I don't think they'd give a crap really. Granted at that point it's half and half between the platform and them imo.
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The truth is that streamers play for casino money. And everything they "lost" goes back into the owner's pocket, and everything they "won" is the broadcast fee. The illusion of transparency is created and that the streamer contributed his money, but this is not true and in 99% of cases it is a performance for those watching this stream. Streamers also get their percentage from the referral system. This is ordinary aggressive marketing, I often saw ordinary bloggers on YouTube who abruptly changed their profile of hobbies and streamed their gambling games, but they are not very good actors.
Streamers are paid professionals; as said, they play for the casinos, pretending as if they're spending their own money. There might be an exception with a few streamers, but most were paid streamers. This is mutually beneficial, as mentioned; the gambling platform gets users directed to the streaming, and for the streamers, they'll get referrals and other ways of earning. More number of gambling platforms are getting launched regularly, and this increase the competence in the market. To keep the users with them and to attract new users, the gambling platforms do all possible ways of marketing. One such kind is streaming, which is unethical from a user perspective, but from a business perspective, they need to make money for which they're taking the efforts.

You're right there; many of us notice what streamers are doing. Maybe those streamers think that all their viewers are stupid and they will be fooled by the fraud they are doing.

There is also a point that some people say that what streamers do is because they have paid ads for no other reason; the second is that they show that they always win in live streaming only because of the demo account or the video that is still shown; sometimes it's already recorded.
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The truth is that streamers play for casino money. And everything they "lost" goes back into the owner's pocket, and everything they "won" is the broadcast fee. The illusion of transparency is created and that the streamer contributed his money, but this is not true and in 99% of cases it is a performance for those watching this stream. Streamers also get their percentage from the referral system. This is ordinary aggressive marketing, I often saw ordinary bloggers on YouTube who abruptly changed their profile of hobbies and streamed their gambling games, but they are not very good actors.
Streamers are paid professionals; as said, they play for the casinos, pretending as if they're spending their own money. There might be an exception with a few streamers, but most were paid streamers. This is mutually beneficial, as mentioned; the gambling platform gets users directed to the streaming, and for the streamers, they'll get referrals and other ways of earning. More number of gambling platforms are getting launched regularly, and this increase the competence in the market. To keep the users with them and to attract new users, the gambling platforms do all possible ways of marketing. One such kind is streaming, which is unethical from a user perspective, but from a business perspective, they need to make money for which they're taking the efforts.
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Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
YouTube should be blamed because any age below 18 should not be able to see such contents. I think that is how it should be but I am not surenif Google takes that seriously.
Here in our country, famous platform is Facebook from Meta, that's why I'm worried for some personalities online that some children or minor can see their stream randomly on the feed.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.
Not only in Philippines, but I can also boldly say that even here in Nigeria, gambling platforms seems to be the highest been promoted by content creators and social media influencers, as it seems these gambling platforms offers good payment to these influencers in exchange for promotion. However, when it comes to the authenticity of the game been played during live stream if weather is it true or not, for me I will say that though some may be real, I also think others may not be real, as likely to be either a demo or configured account made for just that purpose. Hence, what's importance of for we gamblers to always strive to gamble responsibly, not minding what been displayed during live streams.
Jeez! That's why every time I see some content creators or any big personalities I followed before and started to promote gambling, there's just 1 tap away from unfollowing them, I don't tolerate those kinds of action.
I already seen a lot of content creators being offered to promote this gambling but I can see some of them are being denied even how huge the offer is, that's why I really admire them.
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Yes, I believe that can be true because I've personally seen those streamers spending a lot of money on bets and they even lose some money sometimes and make a lot at other times only to show that how good they're at gambling. It's better to avoid those streamers to be safe from losses.

One thing you should know is that these are some of the streamers strategies inorder to get  more followers and people turning up for what they are promoting, What they do is, already this promoter's are being paid for whatever thing they are to carry out so be it showing to the World that they got topnotch skills and Potentials in gambling is one strategies you should keep in mind, so they can make some fake use of placing bets and winning as well, so while promoting fun they are also fuelling addiction.
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The truth is that streamers play for casino money. And everything they "lost" goes back into the owner's pocket, and everything they "won" is the broadcast fee. The illusion of transparency is created and that the streamer contributed his money, but this is not true and in 99% of cases it is a performance for those watching this stream. Streamers also get their percentage from the referral system. This is ordinary aggressive marketing, I often saw ordinary bloggers on YouTube who abruptly changed their profile of hobbies and streamed their gambling games, but they are not very good actors.
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The streamers was used by the gambling site for the marketing purposes,because they play on the demo accounts.
Are you sure that the steamers are using demo account? I have watched some before but I was not patient to wait to read the comments and replies from any streamer before. Have you seen a streamer commented before that they are using demo account? If it is demo, I think that is good and if the streamers are asked, they will say it is demo.

But not necessarily a demo. All the amount we have on gambling sites are not actually money but numbers. It cost a gambling site nothing to have agreement with a streamer and give him numbers on his account which people will think is money but not money.
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Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.
Not only in Philippines, but I can also boldly say that even here in Nigeria, gambling platforms seems to be the highest been promoted by content creators and social media influencers, as it seems these gambling platforms offers good payment to these influencers in exchange for promotion. However, when it comes to the authenticity of the game been played during live stream if weather is it true or not, for me I will say that though some may be real, I also think others may not be real, as likely to be either a demo or configured account made for just that purpose. Hence, what's importance of for we gamblers to always strive to gamble responsibly, not minding what been displayed during live streams.
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the streamers only do the work of the casino or find customers to be attracted to the site. I have seen streamers playing real or using demo accounts. but most of them use demo accounts and those that are often played slot games, they only show the pattern game but not with the withdrawal of money. many people comment on this. the streamers play real or fake slots. they only play and get paid by the site

The streamers was used by the gambling site for the marketing purposes,because they play on the demo accounts.So this play can be used by them to share with the customers to the site.The streamers know the pattern of the game,but they never do anything to gain money from the website apart from marketing.Sometimes we get a message in telegram like some people was the member of website.They make us to win and we can split the money,but it is not a real one.The streamers never use the website to scam other gamblers.
There were really those telling that it was really just that demo accounts but surprisingly there are really that those individuals who do really fall off with those
kind of tricks or being decieved that they are really that making use of real account balances on which its really that too impossible that these streamers would
really be making use of their own money just to promote something on which its really that obvious that they are funded or make use of demo accounts
but they have that trying out to argue that it was that a real balance on which it could be also possibly be funded. So they wont lose anything or simply risk free.

Yeah right , even if they are really using real account but the fund is also provided by the casino to attract viewers you'll see them winning and seems like they know the patterns, those who will fall for this will experience a good welcome winnings but along the way  when they're already hook up they'll start to experience the bad side of gambling, no longer as entertainment but more or less getting deep and become addicted.
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the streamers only do the work of the casino or find customers to be attracted to the site. I have seen streamers playing real or using demo accounts. but most of them use demo accounts and those that are often played slot games, they only show the pattern game but not with the withdrawal of money. many people comment on this. the streamers play real or fake slots. they only play and get paid by the site

The streamers was used by the gambling site for the marketing purposes,because they play on the demo accounts.So this play can be used by them to share with the customers to the site.The streamers know the pattern of the game,but they never do anything to gain money from the website apart from marketing.Sometimes we get a message in telegram like some people was the member of website.They make us to win and we can split the money,but it is not a real one.The streamers never use the website to scam other gamblers.
There were really those telling that it was really just that demo accounts but surprisingly there are really that those individuals who do really fall off with those
kind of tricks or being decieved that they are really that making use of real account balances on which its really that too impossible that these streamers would
really be making use of their own money just to promote something on which its really that obvious that they are funded or make use of demo accounts
but they have that trying out to argue that it was that a real balance on which it could be also possibly be funded. So they wont lose anything or simply risk free.
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the streamers only do the work of the casino or find customers to be attracted to the site. I have seen streamers playing real or using demo accounts. but most of them use demo accounts and those that are often played slot games, they only show the pattern game but not with the withdrawal of money. many people comment on this. the streamers play real or fake slots. they only play and get paid by the site

The streamers was used by the gambling site for the marketing purposes,because they play on the demo accounts.So this play can be used by them to share with the customers to the site.The streamers know the pattern of the game,but they never do anything to gain money from the website apart from marketing.Sometimes we get a message in telegram like some people was the member of website.They make us to win and we can split the money,but it is not a real one.The streamers never use the website to scam other gamblers.
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I believe the account they use is a tester account, because we can clearly see that they would not think of placing a maximum bet, and it is true that many follow in their footsteps, that is why many people go bankrupt because of gambling.

The people who follow them are plain stupid, they should know very well that any sane person in the world would not go max bet with huge amount of money like all streamers do and not care much. I mean sure you can find one that is mad for real and has a lot of money but I highly doubt that all of them are doing the same, most of them are sponsored as you see in the links in their videos which spam a lot of links during the video session. Of course they are very fun to watch especially when you lose a lot of money and lose a bit of hope and you are surrounded in moment of darkness, in such moments they can brighten your mind as they can make you think that there is a chance to win big, of course as I said I don't suggest doing what they do or it is the best shortcut to poverty.
Actually they are really just that doing their jobs on which they are really that getting paid to promote on whatever products or services that they've been commanded into. As long they are really that getting paid
then it does matter the most. Addiction is something that will really be a certain individual would really be that getting involved into on which on the moment that it will really be having that kind of moment or possibility that you do find yourself getting hooked just because of the things that you've done or the actions youve been that doing then it isnt really that totally their mistake basing up on what you have seen.
You are the ones who would really be that responsible towards your own action and if you do find yourself getting addicted then of course it is really that your own fault.People who do really follow up these people
are indeed plain stupid but of course it will really be that depending because if you are really just that seeing  them playing and wont really be trying out to follow on how they do play then you are really just that fine.
On the moment that you are trying out to do on what they are really that been doing then this do really shows up that you are already that being addicted into it and this is something that you should really be refraining on doing so. Disasters do really start with these simple steps or actions that you are doing on which later on it will really be that gradually becoming even more severe until you would really be able to find out that
youve done too much on which regrets will really be always at the end on every actions that you do make and this is why you should really be careful on this one.
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Gambling streamers and influencers actually fuel gambling addiction because they post unrealistic wins, in most cases they make use of demo accounts and make people believe that they are earning a lot of money from the casinos of the platform they are advertising. This is just a marketing strategy and they do it just to make money. A lot of people started gambling because they watched streams on YouTube and other platforms. I think gambling streamers shouldn't be putting out false adverts, it's misleading a lot of people and it's sad that majority of people losing money are teenagers.
the streamers only do the work of the casino or find customers to be attracted to the site. I have seen streamers playing real or using demo accounts. but most of them use demo accounts and those that are often played slot games, they only show the pattern game but not with the withdrawal of money. many people comment on this. the streamers play real or fake slots. they only play and get paid by the site
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But it's a different story with big streamers, rich influencers who use real accounts and capital when doing live streaming, of course in that capital only 10% of the income he gets from his promotional bonuses. In some countries, live streaming gambling is prohibited and if forced will get a stern warning.
But you should also know that Big Streamers also get paid from casinos that endorse them or become their Brand Ambassadors.
The special account that is given to them with special system settings is, of course, unlike the usual account.

It will look like getting wins easily, it's just manipulation as well but with more professionalism,
not like a small streamer who does it alone without help from the casino.
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I believe the account they use is a tester account, because we can clearly see that they would not think of placing a maximum bet, and it is true that many follow in their footsteps, that is why many people go bankrupt because of gambling.

The people who follow them are plain stupid, they should know very well that any sane person in the world would not go max bet with huge amount of money like all streamers do and not care much. I mean sure you can find one that is mad for real and has a lot of money but I highly doubt that all of them are doing the same, most of them are sponsored as you see in the links in their videos which spam a lot of links during the video session. Of course they are very fun to watch especially when you lose a lot of money and lose a bit of hope and you are surrounded in moment of darkness, in such moments they can brighten your mind as they can make you think that there is a chance to win big, of course as I said I don't suggest doing what they do or it is the best shortcut to poverty.
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Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

It's obviously promotions and yea they will equally get paid by the casino in which they are playing on. They don't actually care about whom the audience is even if it's a minor, so long they get enough streams that they wish and then are able to get paid for their promotions. I can't actually blame them for such act as they also just want to make money from their socials. Yea I've also seen a discussion here on the forum about use of fake accounts by streamers. Sometimes you see them getting a very high multiplier in the multiplier games, which makes me wonder if these are all true or just something that the casino do to boost their customers..
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I believe the account they use is a tester account, because we can clearly see that they would not think of placing a maximum bet, and it is true that many follow in their footsteps, that is why many people go bankrupt because of gambling.
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But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
It is common knowledge not only in the Philippines, small streamers who are building their social media accounts mostly promote gambling by playing Demo games. Their goal is to attract beginners who do not understand the system played by the streamer. Then easily spread the original referral link for the benefits that have been established with the gambling site. But it's a different story with big streamers, rich influencers who use real accounts and capital when doing live streaming, of course in that capital only 10% of the income he gets from his promotional bonuses. In some countries, live streaming gambling is prohibited and if forced will get a stern warning.
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Gambling streamers and influencers actually fuel gambling addiction because they post unrealistic wins, in most cases they make use of demo accounts and make people believe that they are earning a lot of money from the casinos of the platform they are advertising. This is just a marketing strategy and they do it just to make money. A lot of people started gambling because they watched streams on YouTube and other platforms. I think gambling streamers shouldn't be putting out false adverts, it's misleading a lot of people and it's sad that majority of people losing money are teenagers.
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Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?
Yes that's true, in fact two popular vloggers, Awit gamer and Whamos was caught cheating, They are not really gamblers and just learn how to gamble because of their popularity, and the casinos pay them to promote or shill their casino through their stream, so don't believe a new popular celebrity suddenly making a lot of money from gambling.

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Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
There was a senator who was planning to pass a law banning streamers from promoting gambling, but after creating a big buzz, we never hear from that senator. Maybe the regulator asks him to stop because if the law is passed, the government tax collection will go down too.
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