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Topic: [LEAKED] Private Bitcoin Foundation Discussions On Blacklisting, more (ZIP dump) (Read 61123 times)

newbie
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What useful was added into Satoshi's client since the foundation was created?
newbie
Activity: 49
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 So far i have seen no untoward behaviour. the majority of posters are anti-tainting. And the pros have yet to demonstrate any benefits. But having the discussion is not prohibited and doesn't mean the Bitcoin foundation is evil just because it was discussed.
newbie
Activity: 49
Merit: 0
I strongly oppose this being supported by the foundation. I don't think it will solve the problems that its supposed to solve considering there is already a public ledger. But to come to that position without discussing it with the community would be definite grounds to rebel against the bitcoin foundation.
newbie
Activity: 49
Merit: 0
That being said nothing I have seen has shown Mike Hearn was not pushing for redlisting. Just calling for a discussion of what the official position of the Bitcoin foundation should be.
newbie
Activity: 49
Merit: 0
People saying they have no right to represent us are absolutely correct they aren't elected by the general assembly of bitcoiners. However they work as a decent interface from a decentralized form of organization (us) to the centralized form of organization (the governments). As long as they represent the viewpoints of the collective all is well. And if they don't we can pull our support.
newbie
Activity: 49
Merit: 0
There is a lot of hate directed at the Bitcoin foundation right now. I joined the foundation so that I could participate in this discussion precisely. (A $25 fee is worth being able to actually have a say).
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 1082
Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile
I always lose my comprehension when good people claim they have to go because there are bad people. Letting the whole thing rule by these "bad people" at the end. Thats not a smart move in my eyes and those leaving people look to me like they are one of the reasons when things go bad afterwards.

Yes. But what is more important? Bitcoin or the idea that it was built upon? The US Constitution or the ideas that it was written upon? (Forgive the country-centric view point.)

Allow your citizens to burn the flag, or you might as well burn it yourself.

The bitcoin foundation wont vanish until most miners drop their support. And i dont see that coming. So at the end leaving the foundation is like those guys that dont go voting. Its useless to vote in the US because of their voting system but other countries have other systems. If someone isnt voting he often claims he dont want to support the system. But he isnt changing anything with it. Even only 13% voting peoples in the last european parliament vote in slovakia didnt change anything about that the election was valid. Even worse... each non voter means this vote voted 30% winning party, 20% second winning party and so on. So non voters even support the system because they dont vote small parties instead that want to change things.

So no... i dont think that the winning parties will cry about it. They are happy about them in fact.

The same goes for the foundation i think. If one leaves because things go wrong... means the remaining members have more power to make it the bad way.

Only saying. I dont wont to force anybody in when he doesnt feel like it of course. Its only factual not a good move.
sr. member
Activity: 274
Merit: 250
I always lose my comprehension when good people claim they have to go because there are bad people. Letting the whole thing rule by these "bad people" at the end. Thats not a smart move in my eyes and those leaving people look to me like they are one of the reasons when things go bad afterwards.

Yes. But what is more important? Bitcoin or the idea that it was built upon? The US Constitution or the ideas that it was written upon? (Forgive the country-centric view point.)

Allow your citizens to burn the flag, or you might as well burn it yourself.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1078
I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.
IMHO bitcoin foundation is just a foundation.  The real decision power of btc is in the peer-to-peer network of computers hashing out those blocks---the miners.  I mean, even if btc foundation released some software that everyone disagreed with, it'd be up to the miners to receive the update or not.  Am I missing something?
newbie
Activity: 52
Merit: 0
This is not good for bitcoin hopefully it will be straightend out.

The best thing for bitcoin would be to disband the Bitcoin Foundation. Thanks a lot for posting threads from their closed forum here.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 1082
Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile
I always lose my comprehension when good people claim they have to go because there are bad people. Letting the whole thing rule by these "bad people" at the end. Thats not a smart move in my eyes and those leaving people look to me like they are one of the reasons when things go bad afterwards.
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1001
This is not good for bitcoin hopefully it will be straightend out.
newbie
Activity: 27
Merit: 0
I know I've said it before but I don't think it can be said enough: Let's not make the mistake of trading one master for another.
newbie
Activity: 27
Merit: 0
We have come together into this new financial system to escape that very kind of control. Let's not allow that control to creep back into our lives. Not even a little. These threats to bitcoin will never stop. When we squash one, it will surely just pop back up with a different name. So we must never consider the battle to be won and we must always remain vigilant .
newbie
Activity: 27
Merit: 0
The current influx of governments, organizations, and individuals that are attempting to exert control over bitcoin both directly and indirectly demonstrates just how far we've come. They see the value in bitcoin and are taking us seriously now.
full member
Activity: 133
Merit: 100
Bitcoin Enthusiast
Every business should have a drug test kit to test cash for drug residue.  If it contains any they should not take it.  It could have been used in a crime.

Wasn't the crime initiated during the printing of said cash?



According to one of the alphabet agencies, the two most common things found on US dollar bills is cocaine and feces, so by the same logic, it the cash wasn't used in a crime . . . Wink
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
For whatever it's worth, there appears to be a mass exodus from the Bitcoin Foundation...

Read about it here.


Just correctly the link for your, bud: https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/951-post-your-bitcoin-foundation-resignations-here/
full member
Activity: 133
Merit: 100
Bitcoin Enthusiast
For whatever it's worth, there appears to be a mass exodus from the Bitcoin Foundation...

Read about it here.
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
Every business should have a drug test kit to test cash for drug residue.  If it contains any they should not take it.  It could have been used in a crime.

Wasn't the crime initiated during the printing of said cash?

legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1009
Are you listening, Gavin?
Bitcoin is fundamentally broken if its future depends on whether or not Gavin is listening.

Fortunately, there are viable alternatives to Bitcoin Core now.
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