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Wish I could figure out where they come up with the payouts for the pools. Sometimes they match the pool info, sometimes they don't.

For example, yesterday's waffle number matches the info from the wafflepool website (0.00020943). Clever doesn't - its below the Clever reported number. 0.00023200 on the zen website, 0.000253 on the clever website. Even if they take the number from some other time period it would be tough for it to be that low since the previous day was 0.000247.
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Well, Josh has refused to allow me to bet. What a surprise.

He apparently can at least do enough arithmetic to know that he could never actually win a % to ROI comparison.
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I am going to see if he will let me take that bet.

I mean, if it is % of ROI in my own specified timelimit, then he cannot win.



Posted in the thread and emailed Josh.



What are the current payouts for Zenpool? What about a Prime that DD's perfectly?

About 0.00015 after fees. About 0.00035 before fees. That's with DD to Clever or LTC Pool. ZenPool alone today is 0.00024932

Do Prime's get charged extra maintenance on that DD?

No. Maintenance is always 0.08 USD. ~BTC0.0002105 today.
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I am going to see if he will let me take that bet.

I mean, if it is % of ROI in my own specified timelimit, then he cannot win.



Posted in the thread and emailed Josh.



What are the current payouts for Zenpool? What about a Prime that DD's perfectly?

About 0.00015 after fees. About 0.00035 before fees. That's with DD to Clever or LTC Pool. ZenPool alone today is 0.00024932

Do Prime's get charged extra maintenance on that DD?


edit: Josh has replied via email again, but without clarifying if he understands or accepts the terms or if he will even take the bet with me.

He just said something about his legal team would need to prepare a draft first, but not if he would actually send that draft to me or anything.
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I am going to see if he will let me take that bet.

I mean, if it is % of ROI in my own specified timelimit, then he cannot win.
And before or after fees? It's house-rules so he will game them.

By previously hosting and converting indie hardware, he's already taken a chunk of the indie competition out.

After all, a 5MH GridSeed performs better than a 5MH Hashlet -- now scale that.
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I am going to see if he will let me take that bet.

I mean, if it is % of ROI in my own specified timelimit, then he cannot win.



Posted in the thread and emailed Josh.



What are the current payouts for Zenpool? What about a Prime that DD's perfectly?

About 0.00015 after fees. About 0.00035 before fees. That's with DD to Clever or LTC Pool. ZenPool alone today is 0.00024932
MOB
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I am going to see if he will let me take that bet.

I mean, if it is % of ROI in my own specified timelimit, then he cannot win.



Posted in the thread and emailed Josh.



What are the current payouts for Zenpool? What about a Prime that DD's perfectly?
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When calling people out on names pointlessly, it's important to get them right. His name is Homero Josiah. Wink

You're creepy. There's a different name here:
https://twitter.com/gawceo/status/530709608147714048


Did you make this fake picture? The trolling in this thread has no limits. GAW never made the one with "$80 - 100" on it. Nice try.
https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fh04WStE.png&t=546&c=1aP8FmC1VO42yw

I do think I saw some numbers there at one point. That pic got changed a lot in the first few hours. It does have the dates now and I believe those inflated prices were listed sometime shortly before or after the dates were edited in. I could be wrong though.

https://hashcoin.com/img/[email protected]
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I see, thanks. It's strange that they allowed people to see who casted the upvotes but not downvotes.

It's probably a good thing. There would be all sorts of retaliation if they could see who downvoted.

i'm still invested in gaw...and so totally confused about hashcoin, but if i can sell all my HC's asap @ hopefully 20 I should hit ROI and maybe some profit Smiley not holding my breath for it but would be nice...i still think its gona flop just like every other alt coin has/will
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I see, thanks. It's strange that they allowed people to see who casted the upvotes but not downvotes.

It's probably a good thing. There would be all sorts of retaliation if they could see who downvoted.
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I see, thanks. It's strange that they allowed people to see who casted the upvotes but not downvotes.
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It will likely result in some bans because someone is downvoting the CEO Smiley

But I think this tells us how he can win that bet.

How do you know they are downvoting him? I can see positive points under his comments.

At one point he had -1 on some posts. Even if someone upvoted him since then you can still add up the upvotes in the mouse-over and see if it matches the total. It the total is less than the sum of upvotes - someone had downvoted. But don't worry, this will be fixed:

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It will likely result in some bans because someone is downvoting the CEO Smiley

But I think this tells us how he can win that bet.

How do you know they are downvoting him? I can see positive points under his comments.
legendary
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Is it me or is this guy a few cans shy of a six-pack? Would you invest in this logic?



No I invested in nodes that actually work with darkcoin. His copycat style for his primes should be flattering to the darkcoin devs
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GAW_CEO
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Industry Innovator

Zenpool: the World's Most Profitable Pool

I have been waiting for someone to do the math on this for weeks, and so far no one has done it.

This post is for all of those skeptics that keep challenging us on our claims that Zenpool is the most profitable pool.

Let's use some basic logic. When you say that “one company is more profitable than another,” what does that mean at this second, or over any time-frame? If Apple has a bad sales day, and our sales are better than theirs on that single day, are we now a more profitable company?

By definition, “most profitable” should mean over a period of time. What is that period of time?

Since they launched!

Let's do some actual math and settle this. If you’re up to the challenge, add up how much money Zenpool has paid out since it launched. Then do the same thing with any other pool over the same time frame.

Zenpool is the world’s most profitable pool. :grinning:


It will likely result in some bans because someone is downvoting the CEO Smiley

But I think this tells us how he can win that bet.
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I think at this stage one can get an overall sense of Homero's modus operandi. There is a pattern going on. So much so one might even be able to predict when his next tack will occur.

The "launch" of this thing will be a swarming success. Lots of money will be flying around, lots of champagne corks popping over the New Year...and then he will tack again.  How long has he been able to hold his breath each time since day one? Some one might want to graph his activities. I cannot keep up with the constant invention of devices that he comes up with but say


 hashitlette 1------success for x months----winds down------|
                                                                                          | tack
                                                                                          |
                                                                                          |----invent hashzenthing two --success for y months---winds down-|
                                                                                                                                                                                               |
                                                                                                                                                                                               |tack
                                                                                                                                                                                               |
--winds down----greatest thing since sliced bread hashcoin-----------urgently need new gizmo to keep everyone roped in--------
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|tack
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-------------really need something new now to keep it going---------?Huh-----------


So what is the frequency of his tacks since day one? Is it shortening? the deeper he gets in? No shortage of domain names, and website developers to immediately throw up the "next big thing" at the stroke of a pen. Any guess as to what that next big thing will be? What can he say or do that can appear to be bigger than appearing to create an appearing to be coin? Space Flights? Real Estate of Mars? Under sea colonies?
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When calling people out on names pointlessly, it's important to get them right. His name is Homero Josiah. Wink

You're creepy. There's a different name here:
https://twitter.com/gawceo/status/530709608147714048


Did you make this fake picture? The trolling in this thread has no limits. GAW never made the one with "$80 - 100" on it. Nice try.
https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fh04WStE.png&t=546&c=1aP8FmC1VO42yw
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Is it me or is this guy a few cans shy of a six-pack? Would you invest in this logic?


It is you.
legendary
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It was this guys first and only post on hashtalk. The "helpful" community banned him within 5 minutes.....poor guy.



Stay away from GAW.

I always wondered if the reason no one at GAW helped these people who accidentally did this was that GAW was actually the ones buying them.  I sold a 80MH/s ZenHashlet on the market and not more than 3 seconds after I click the final accept button it was gone and I sold it for about $1 per MH/s under market value.  

Don't waste time arguing whether GAW themselves or other customers are the people buying the cheap stuff immediately. They both have the same result, hurting people that want to cash out, and helping those that want to stay in.

Of course they aren't going to change things to appease people on the way, they aren't customers any more.

This action does point to the red flag about all of this, and why I wouldn't touch this thing with a 10 foot pole. Every change (hashpoints based on balance, mining hashpoints, bonus power, etc) seems to discourage cashing out and encourage staying in/buying in more.
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