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Topic: GBTC Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer - page 97. (Read 262357 times)

legendary
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March 03, 2014, 01:02:36 PM
Updates Cheesy?

150 on 28th Feb. I guess we may see something really interesting in the coming days
legendary
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March 03, 2014, 12:59:20 PM
 Updates Cheesy?
legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1111
March 01, 2014, 01:05:15 AM
I know somebody explained above that computing how many BTC per day they are buying is a "simple math" Wink So I wanted to try, I have a Ph.D. in mathematics, afterall  Grin and could help you to do this great work. I guess some of you have figured out what is this "historical price of bitcoin" - can you please share? I understand that their total market value is # shares times NAV based on this mysterious "historical price"? TIA

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NAV per share for the BIT (capitalized on September 24, 2013) is calculated based on the historical price of bitcoin. If you would like to see how NAV is calculated, please refer to the private placement memorandum.  



The data is updated on their official page every day, and the data for the previous day is removed. So I have to monitor it everyday to compile the table
hero member
Activity: 994
Merit: 501
March 01, 2014, 12:48:29 AM
1030XBT bought yesterday
SecondMarket is becoming notorious now for completely missing lows and then buying during some extremely overbought condition afterwards.

Maybe they are permabulls..

SecondMarket is buying at particular prices.  Investors are.  They are simply taking orders from those investors. 
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
March 01, 2014, 12:23:00 AM
1030XBT bought yesterday
SecondMarket is becoming notorious now for completely missing lows and then buying during some extremely overbought condition afterwards.

Maybe they are permabulls..
Why would even a permabull buy at 600, AFTER 400? If they are so bullish that they are looking for any buying opportunity, then they should have taken 400 which occurred BEFORE 600 (and would get them more coins also), or even 550 the day before. Instead they waited until after all that until the price was 600. Being a permabull doesn't mean you have to go out of your way to buy more expensive coins. That's not the behavior of a bull; that's the behavior of someone who panicking watching charts.
full member
Activity: 336
Merit: 100
February 28, 2014, 09:18:15 PM
I know somebody explained above that computing how many BTC per day they are buying is a "simple math" Wink So I wanted to try, I have a Ph.D. in mathematics, afterall  Grin and could help you to do this great work. I guess some of you have figured out what is this "historical price of bitcoin" - can you please share? I understand that their total market value is # shares times NAV based on this mysterious "historical price"? TIA

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NAV per share for the BIT (capitalized on September 24, 2013) is calculated based on the historical price of bitcoin. If you would like to see how NAV is calculated, please refer to the private placement memorandum.  

legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 2106
February 28, 2014, 02:36:57 PM
1030XBT bought yesterday
SecondMarket is becoming notorious now for completely missing lows and then buying during some extremely overbought condition afterwards.

they are doing great compared to others:

http://qz.com/182637/meet-the-4-25-billion-asset-manager-that-took-a-bath-on-bitcoin/

 Cheesy
full member
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PrimeDAO - An Adoption Engine for Open Finance
February 28, 2014, 02:33:36 PM
1030XBT bought yesterday
SecondMarket is becoming notorious now for completely missing lows and then buying during some extremely overbought condition afterwards.

Maybe they are permabulls..
1030XBT bought yesterday
SecondMarket is becoming notorious now for completely missing lows and then buying during some extremely overbought condition afterwards.

Maybe they are permabulls..

Or a bunch of idiots
newbie
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Merit: 0
February 28, 2014, 02:24:48 PM
1030XBT bought yesterday
SecondMarket is becoming notorious now for completely missing lows and then buying during some extremely overbought condition afterwards.

Maybe they are permabulls..
sr. member
Activity: 442
Merit: 250
February 28, 2014, 12:45:09 PM
1030XBT bought yesterday
SecondMarket is becoming notorious now for completely missing lows and then buying during some extremely overbought condition afterwards.

They probably have their stash of btc which are bought at lows and they later just sell those btc to the investors (who probably don't care about the price since they're investing for a long term?) at daily prices... That's why they're buying min 25btc directly from sellers.

I'm sure they are smart enough to make profit out of this  Wink
legendary
Activity: 1458
Merit: 1006
February 28, 2014, 10:29:00 AM
1030XBT bought yesterday
SecondMarket is becoming notorious now for completely missing lows and then buying during some extremely overbought condition afterwards.

Or SecondMarket just gets more phone calls whenever "The Bitcoin" figures on the frontpage of the Wall Street Journal and the Financial Times.

Which reflects poorly on the attention span vs raw analytic capacity of the sophisticated investors they cater to.
FNG
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
February 28, 2014, 03:00:34 AM
1030XBT bought yesterday

Thats quite substansial, Obviously Barry does not have concers about the gox situation.

Barry is buying for his customers, not for himself.

Yes I know, but i assume Barry weights in for timing a 1k+ buy order?

I guess they may have something like a limit order.
They try to purchase off exchanges. I believe 25 btc minimum if people would like to sell to them..maybe it was 50
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
February 28, 2014, 02:57:20 AM
1030XBT bought yesterday
SecondMarket is becoming notorious now for completely missing lows and then buying during some extremely overbought condition afterwards.
legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1111
February 28, 2014, 02:41:26 AM
1030XBT bought yesterday

Thats quite substansial, Obviously Barry does not have concers about the gox situation.

Barry is buying for his customers, not for himself.

Yes I know, but i assume Barry weights in for timing a 1k+ buy order?

I guess they may have something like a limit order.
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
February 28, 2014, 02:31:58 AM
1030XBT bought yesterday

Thats quite substansial, Obviously Barry does not have concers about the gox situation.

Barry is buying for his customers, not for himself.

Yes I know, but i assume Barry weights in for timing a 1k+ buy order?
legendary
Activity: 896
Merit: 1000
February 28, 2014, 01:12:01 AM
Nice. I hope we see that trend continue; maybe the media coverage will bring in some investments. Just not on the exchanges.
legendary
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Merit: 1028
Duelbits.com
February 28, 2014, 01:08:40 AM
1030XBT bought yesterday

Thats quite substansial, Obviously Barry does not have concers about the gox situation.

Barry is buying for his customers, not for himself.
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
February 28, 2014, 12:56:21 AM
1030XBT bought yesterday

Thats quite substansial, Obviously Barry does not have concers about the gox situation.
legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1111
February 28, 2014, 12:49:09 AM
1030XBT bought yesterday
legendary
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February 27, 2014, 12:12:10 AM
Yeah, I understand that. But thought they might had people in the line that waited for cheaper coins.

That's a good point seleme.  What I don't know is how fast a BIT investor can inject $ and get Barry to buy; however, I would imagine it is at least one day and possibly more.  If so, BIT is an impractical vehicle (compared to a BitStamp account) for timing the market bottom.

Unless you send them a money and order them to buy at certain point, like putting a limit order at Bitstamp.


Yes, that could be the case. 

I think cypherdoc holds BIT in his 401k.  Perhaps he would know. 
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