Topic: Germany League - 2nd Bundesliga Prediction Thread - page 18. (Read 16564 times)

That is one reason and I think another reason is that teams from lower leagues are catching up and they are more determined than ever. Look where Darmstadt and Heidenheim are in the 1. Bundesliga. They are ahead of so many 1. Bundesliga clubs that usually should easily leave Heidenheim and Darmstadt behind them. I think willpower is important and of course I wouldn't argue that Schalke or Hamburg doesn't want it, but when they waste so much time in the 2. Bundesliga I wonder how they can do so many things wrong for years in a row and not get promoted again when all the infrastructure and all the resource are available. Instead it is the underdogs who find their way into the 1. Bundesliga.

Hamburg is not playing very well. They have not shown good performance against the teams that have been promoted. Everyone assumed that they would score 9 points. But they only made one point out of that. For a team that has set itself the goal of promotion, these games were very disappointing.

Schalke must now show that with the new coach (Karel Geraerts from Belgium) they have brought in a good coach who can make them win games again. The advantage is that the international break gives them more time for preparation.

Schalke lost 2-1 at home to Hertha Berlin, putting its position in trouble for this year's Bundesliga. They have only 7 points in 9 matches and if it continues like this, they will be relegated from Bundesliga 2 to the lower league. Hamburg, on the other hand, is playing very well to get the upper league opportunity it missed last year. I think one of the teams that will emerge this year will be Hamburg.

In any case, it seems that Schalke is moving in that direction. Schalke have managed to get back into the Bundesliga 1. But only for one season, because they have not worked sustainably. Many clubs see a relegation as a slip-up that only happens once. And that is probably also the problem. You have to admit to yourself and understand why the relegation have happened and then fix the mistakes. But the people in charge who made the mistakes do not want to admit that to themselves.

Actually this match looks quite even between the two teams and Schalke 04 can play quite well because in this match they are superior as home match but Schalke 04 is not strong opponent to be able to beat Hertha Berlin.
Maybe the next match against Karlsruher they can get win if they can still play a good game.

Talking about Bundesliga 2 it seems like St.Pauli or Hamburger who performed quite well by occupying the first and second positions, one of them could be promoted for next season to Bundesliga and looking at the Bundesliga standings there are several lower teams that have the chance of being relegated because they do not have good development there.

Schalke is Hamburg 2.0. Although maybe I am wrong and Schalke is really much worse than Hamburg of course. But it is the same range of problems. They have all this potential, an amazing stadium, they also played in the Europa League in the past and I think they have also sporadically played in the Champions League if I remember correctly, but now the whole club is in shambles and it is hard to explain why these high potential clubs keep struggling so hard.

and schalke 04 has lost again. schalke lost 1:2 against hertha bsc berlin today. over 62k fans were in the stadium.
5000 fans from berlin. but only the berlin fans could celebrate after the match.
and kiel also failed to win against promoted elversberg today. 1:1 ended the match between kiel and elversberg.

here are all the results from the 9th matchday :



source:https://globalsportsarchive.com/competition/soccer/2-bundesliga-2023-2024/regular-season/80272/   

I would rather be interested in understanding how a club lime Hamburger SV does not play in the 1. Bundesliga? They have everything it takes and it is one of the biggest cities in Germany. I liked to watch some games from them in the past. The good old times when Rafael van der Vaart still played there! I liked him as a player when he was playing his best. I thought when Hamburger SV got relegated that it was already devastating but that it would not take long for them to be back in the game, but here we are so many years later.

the hamburger sv is already a mystery : they win against düsseldorf,schalke 04 and hertha bsc berlin . and against the three promoted teams they get a ridiculous point .
before the season almost every hsv fan expected 9 points . but only one point.... that is really much too little .
and the media report today that schalke 04 has found a new coach. Karel Geraerts from Belgium is to coach the schalke team in future. i have never heard this name before. 

This is a never ending story for this club that used to be so big in the Bundesliga. Hamburger SV usually had their problems later during the season, but now they are already experiencing struggles and could not win 3 out of the last 5 games. They could at least be 5 points ahead of the rest by now, but I anticipate they will be in the same position this year as they have been in the last 5 seasons or so? I don't remember exactly, but the club has so much potential that I thought it would not take them too long to get back into the Bundesliga.

the hamburger sv and the promoted teams . it's been a very bad story so far this season . lost twice and zero points .
if the hamburger team should lose in wiesbaden this time as well then you could possibly really speculate about the coaching staff if they are doing everything right .
however, i think that the hsv will win this game. one more defeat and the big embarrassment would be perfect .
then no hsv fan would dare to go to hamburger city anymore 

Kaiserlautern against Hannover will certainly be an exciting match. Both teams have shown a good performance in the last games and both want the 3 points.
The match on Saturday between Wehen Wiesbaden and Hamburger SV will be interesting. Hamburg must finally show that they can also win against the "little ones". So far they have shown the opposite.

today the 9th matchday in the 2. bundesliga starts with the following two games.
three teams fortuna düsseldorf (at home vs osnabrück) and hannover 96 (away at kaiserslautern) can jump to first place in the table with a win today. the red devils from lautern can also take over the lead in the table with a home win today

At Sunday the two former teams from Bundesliga 1 will play against each other. Both have had quite a bad start. Hertha Berlin has continued to develop and is on the right track. Schalke, however, is pure chaos. So far they have not presented a new coach and so Matthias Kreutzer will probably continue as coach. Hertha showed a good game against St. Pauli and I expect them to win this game.

The opportunities created show how these two clubs do not want to beat each other even though St. Pauli's chances are far superior but Hertha's chances are also some pretty good and actually on target they differ slightly.
Neither team seemed to hold back and I liked what they did. Hertha know if they do a defensive scheme in the end this will also harm themselves so Hertha try to play following the fast rhythm that St Pauli does even though the results are not too good for them but I quite salute their intentions that try to keep up with the game that St Pauli does.

Hertha Berlin vs. St. Pauli match was breathtaking. Both teams gave each other little and it was a lot of back and forth. St. Pauli should have scored many more goals. They had so many chances, but somehow they did not manage it. The goal from Hertha Berlin made it a bit exciting at the end. But St. Pauli deserved to win the game and is at place 1 in the table.

Well, there is a reason why they were relegated: Because they played badly. In addition, many players have also left due to the relegation and a new team usually has to be formed.
The team and the management have to realise that they have been relegated and then they have to show 100% performance to get promoted again. Many do not manage that.
Bundesliga 2 is quite strong and many teams often bounce between Bundesliga 1 and 2.

next weekend there will be a really exciting match in the 2.bundesliga : schalke 04 against hertha bsc berlin . the veltins arena will be sold out .
both teams have to win this important match . I can well imagine that there will be a lot of goals in this match on sunday
afternoon because both teams will certainly act very nervously and create good chances to score.
and the hamburger sv has to play against the third promoted team :wehen wiesbaden is the name of the hsv's opponent.
will the hsv disgrace itself again at the weekend? that will be three exciting matchdays.


source:https://www.flashscore.com/football/germany/2-bundesliga     

looking at the table and looking at the positions of the teams that were in the bundesliga last season, it is strange to see that they are not even close to the top, it seems that since they were relegated to the second division, these teams have died, shalke in the last Bundesliga games before being relegated were playing very well that it seemed that if they were relegated they could return to the Bundesliga easily, at least that was my opinion, and today seeing their performance, I'm honestly shocked, I'm wondering what year They returned to the Bundesliga, they probably won't return to the Bundesliga anytime soon. another team that was also in the bundesliga last season and is doing poorly in this second division and Hertha Berlin who was playing well in the bundesliga in the last few games

I thought that when they were relegated they could easily return to the Bundesliga, but seeing their performance, it makes me think that they probably won't return to the Bundesliga in 3 seasons, they're not even in the top 10, they can't reach it, and something very shocking, if memory serves me correctly the third team that was in the bundesliga last season was greuther furth who are also doing very badly in this division, they also can't even get into the top 10 of the table. This makes me think that teams that are relegated to the second division don't just lose their place in the Bundesliga, they perhaps lose a large part of their squad and are unlikely to be able to return to the Bundesliga.

last season hamburg were very close to promotion, in fact I expected them to be promoted, but they were unlucky, I hope that this season they finally manage to get promoted, so they shouldn't make the same mistakes as last season, and It's important to win every game you have and not waste points, a mistake can be costly. Therefore, they must avoid making mistakes

Paderborn : Schalke 04  3:1
Hamburger SV : Düsseldorf  1:0

hamburger sv deservedly won the match against fortuna düsseldorf 1:0 today and is back on top of the 2.bundesliga.
in gelsenkirchen the catastrophe continues. even after the dismissal of the coach there was no point in paderborn.
paderborn won 3:1 against schalke 04 and therefore schalke remains on place 16 in the 2.bundesliga.