Germany League - 2nd Bundesliga Prediction Thread - page 77.

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I don't think it will be a disaster for Schalke either. Okay, nobody knows the finances. But at Hamburger SV it was also said at that time that they would only survive financially for one year. And now it has already three...and there will probably be one more. Roll Eyes

But at least they will get some money from the DFB Cup. Today was the draw for the semi-finals. They will play against Freiburg at home.

I do think that promotion is necessary for Schalke. Many of the structures are still from the first league, because they believed they could win promotion immediately again. If Schalke is not promoted this year, then the structure of the club will have to be adapted and downsized. In addition, the generous sponsorship agreement with Gazprom is no longer in place and the new sponsor is paying significantly less for the second league.

Schalke would still be in a very good position if they did not lose points in the last two matches. Schalke's performance was very irregular. They have consistently failed to perform well. And lost points against the weaker team. They have lost 8 matches this season. And they will not be able to qualify for the Bundesliga this season. Now they should think about next season.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on March 10, 2022, 12:52:30 PM

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The victory of Werder Bremen makes it even harder for Nürnberg, Hamburger SV and Schalke. They have to win twice themselves and hope that the other teams (Darmstadt and St. Pauli) also lose twice. That will be very close. It is not impossible and there are still 9 matchdays to go.

Well, this is a scenario that can happen, but due to the conditions that are left and few games left, both teams, both Darmtadt and St Pauli, will not want to give anything away, in fact I think that these teams will go for everything and will not let nothing in the air, that is, they will not make mistakes or be careless, because both Darmstatd and St Pauli have played very well despite the fact that some defeats have been very strong, I think that 9 games are seen a lot but they are not so many when it comes to going at the end. These positions are very hard-fought, I don't think they will deflect last.

@LUCKMCFLY I agree with you as I too don’t expect the top 3 to drop points now, and I believe that they’ll have an psychological advantage of being on the top and an added motivation to maintain their rankings. Lastly this very scenario means that we’re going to further witness more exciting football, and hence we should wager even more carefully in the remaining games.

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Quote from: bct_ail on March 06, 2022, 11:53:14 AM

The victory of Werder Bremen makes it even harder for Nürnberg, Hamburger SV and Schalke. They have to win twice themselves and hope that the other teams (Darmstadt and St. Pauli) also lose twice. That will be very close. It is not impossible and there are still 9 matchdays to go.

Well, this is a scenario that can happen, but due to the conditions that are left and few games left, both teams, both Darmtadt and St Pauli, will not want to give anything away, in fact I think that these teams will go for everything and will not let nothing in the air, that is, they will not make mistakes or be careless, because both Darmstatd and St Pauli have played very well despite the fact that some defeats have been very strong, I think that 9 games are seen a lot but they are not so many when it comes to going at the end. These positions are very hard-fought, I don't think they will deflect last.

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After Schalke resigned Dimitrios Grammozis as coach on Sunday, the new coach was presented today. It is Mike Büskens and he will initially coach the team until the end of the season. This is the third time Büskens has stepped in as interim coach at Schalke.
However, he is currently in quarantine... Roll Eyes

Büskens is the 6th coach within 1 1/2 years. Are they doing that to imitate Hamburger SV? Grin

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Quote from: bct_ail on March 06, 2022, 05:32:09 PM

I don't think it will be a disaster for Schalke either. Okay, nobody knows the finances. But at Hamburger SV it was also said at that time that they would only survive financially for one year. And now it has already three...and there will probably be one more. Roll Eyes

But at least they will get some money from the DFB Cup. Today was the draw for the semi-finals. They will play against Freiburg at home.

I do think that promotion is necessary for Schalke. Many of the structures are still from the first league, because they believed they could win promotion immediately again. If Schalke is not promoted this year, then the structure of the club will have to be adapted and downsized. In addition, the generous sponsorship agreement with Gazprom is no longer in place and the new sponsor is paying significantly less for the second league.

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The victory of Werder Bremen makes it even harder for Nürnberg, Hamburger SV and Schalke. They have to win twice themselves and hope that the other teams (Darmstadt and St. Pauli) also lose twice. That will be very close. It is not impossible and there are still 9 matchdays to go.

Yes that was a really bad matchday for the two biggest clubs of the second Bundesliga Schalke and the Hamburger SV both are now already 6 points behind the third position which would at least bring them into the play-offs for the relegation. With only 9 more matches to go it really starts to look like already that most likely one of those two clubs and very likely even both of them will have to stay at least one year longer in the second Bundesliga, which will be huge disappointment. I guess that for the Hamburger SV it is not as bad as for Schalke because they already had to experience multiple times now how hard it is to move back up to the first Bundesliga.

in any case, it is a financially bigger disaster for schalke 04 than for hamburg if direct re-promotion does not work out. after this match day, however, it has become even more difficult for both clubs to occupy one of the first 2-3 places. bremen, darmstadt and st. pauli are having a good flow at the moment and will not give up points so easily.

I disagree regarding the financial disaster for Schalke would be bigger than for Hamburg. Look, Hamburg managed to survive three years in the second league by now. Everyone in Germany was discussing the financial disaster that you just mentioned. The thing here is that these huge clubs will always find sponsors, even sponsors that haven't been sponsoring soccer clubs before. That was the case for Hamburg I think three years ago. It will definitely be the case for Schalke as well. The real issue is that it becomes harder and harder over time if you don't get back into league 1. At some point you lose some serious credibility in terms of your promises and ambitions to make it back. Failing the first year will be ok and Schalke will be fine financially.

I don't think it will be a disaster for Schalke either. Okay, nobody knows the finances. But at Hamburger SV it was also said at that time that they would only survive financially for one year. And now it has already three...and there will probably be one more. Roll Eyes

But at least they will get some money from the DFB Cup. Today was the draw for the semi-finals. They will play against Freiburg at home.

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The victory of Werder Bremen makes it even harder for Nürnberg, Hamburger SV and Schalke. They have to win twice themselves and hope that the other teams (Darmstadt and St. Pauli) also lose twice. That will be very close. It is not impossible and there are still 9 matchdays to go.

Yes that was a really bad matchday for the two biggest clubs of the second Bundesliga Schalke and the Hamburger SV both are now already 6 points behind the third position which would at least bring them into the play-offs for the relegation. With only 9 more matches to go it really starts to look like already that most likely one of those two clubs and very likely even both of them will have to stay at least one year longer in the second Bundesliga, which will be huge disappointment. I guess that for the Hamburger SV it is not as bad as for Schalke because they already had to experience multiple times now how hard it is to move back up to the first Bundesliga.

in any case, it is a financially bigger disaster for schalke 04 than for hamburg if direct re-promotion does not work out. after this match day, however, it has become even more difficult for both clubs to occupy one of the first 2-3 places. bremen, darmstadt and st. pauli are having a good flow at the moment and will not give up points so easily.

I disagree regarding the financial disaster for Schalke would be bigger than for Hamburg. Look, Hamburg managed to survive three years in the second league by now. Everyone in Germany was discussing the financial disaster that you just mentioned. The thing here is that these huge clubs will always find sponsors, even sponsors that haven't been sponsoring soccer clubs before. That was the case for Hamburg I think three years ago. It will definitely be the case for Schalke as well. The real issue is that it becomes harder and harder over time if you don't get back into league 1. At some point you lose some serious credibility in terms of your promises and ambitions to make it back. Failing the first year will be ok and Schalke will be fine financially.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on March 06, 2022, 01:36:13 PM

Quote from: bct_ail on March 06, 2022, 11:53:14 AM

The victory of Werder Bremen makes it even harder for Nürnberg, Hamburger SV and Schalke. They have to win twice themselves and hope that the other teams (Darmstadt and St. Pauli) also lose twice. That will be very close. It is not impossible and there are still 9 matchdays to go.

Yes that was a really bad matchday for the two biggest clubs of the second Bundesliga Schalke and the Hamburger SV both are now already 6 points behind the third position which would at least bring them into the play-offs for the relegation. With only 9 more matches to go it really starts to look like already that most likely one of those two clubs and very likely even both of them will have to stay at least one year longer in the second Bundesliga, which will be huge disappointment. I guess that for the Hamburger SV it is not as bad as for Schalke because they already had to experience multiple times now how hard it is to move back up to the first Bundesliga.

in any case, it is a financially bigger disaster for schalke 04 than for hamburg if direct re-promotion does not work out. after this match day, however, it has become even more difficult for both clubs to occupy one of the first 2-3 places. bremen, darmstadt and st. pauli are having a good flow at the moment and will not give up points so easily.

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Quote from: bct_ail on March 06, 2022, 11:53:14 AM

The victory of Werder Bremen makes it even harder for Nürnberg, Hamburger SV and Schalke. They have to win twice themselves and hope that the other teams (Darmstadt and St. Pauli) also lose twice. That will be very close. It is not impossible and there are still 9 matchdays to go.

Yes that was a really bad matchday for the two biggest clubs of the second Bundesliga Schalke and the Hamburger SV both are now already 6 points behind the third position which would at least bring them into the play-offs for the relegation. With only 9 more matches to go it really starts to look like already that most likely one of those two clubs and very likely even both of them will have to stay at least one year longer in the second Bundesliga, which will be huge disappointment. I guess that for the Hamburger SV it is not as bad as for Schalke because they already had to experience multiple times now how hard it is to move back up to the first Bundesliga.

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The victory of Werder Bremen makes it even harder for Nürnberg, Hamburger SV and Schalke. They have to win twice themselves and hope that the other teams (Darmstadt and St. Pauli) also lose twice. That will be very close. It is not impossible and there are still 9 matchdays to go.

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Quote from: Soonandwaite on March 06, 2022, 12:39:37 AM

i think werder bremen will win today against dynamo dresden . then werder bremen will be on top again !
hsv,schalke 04 and heidenheim have lost their games. and the surprise team of the last few games...nürnberg keeps moving upwards.
there will be many interesting and very exciting weeks ahead.

You were right, Bremen won 2-1 and is now on the 1st rank again. Also Nürnberg won and we now suddenly have a pretty clear situation with Bremen, Darmstadt and St.Pauli >=5 points above Nürnberg, Hamburg and Schalke. The next weeks will show whether the league is moving towards an early decision for the Top3 or if the other teams will be able to catch up again.

I would say if we look at the table now and compare it to the one from even last week, let alone from a few weeks ago, it is the first time that it kind of starts to crystalize which teams might be top 3 in the end. With a five point gap between 3rd and 4th, we'll now might have some favorites. Hamburg looks so bad right now.

We will still have some duels between the top teams where they steal points from each other, so nothing is over yet.

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Quote from: Soonandwaite on March 06, 2022, 12:39:37 AM

i think werder bremen will win today against dynamo dresden . then werder bremen will be on top again !
hsv,schalke 04 and heidenheim have lost their games. and the surprise team of the last few games...nürnberg keeps moving upwards.
there will be many interesting and very exciting weeks ahead.

You were right, Bremen won 2-1 and is now on the 1st rank again. Also Nürnberg won and we now suddenly have a pretty clear situation with Bremen, Darmstadt and St.Pauli >=5 points above Nürnberg, Hamburg and Schalke. The next weeks will show whether the league is moving towards an early decision for the Top3 or if the other teams will be able to catch up again.

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somehow it was too quiet in the field of schalke 04 and to bring some action in the whole thing the club has sacked today after yesterday's home defeat against hansa rostock the coach Dimitrios Grammozis Tongue

somehow it belongs to the club (just like hamburger sv) at least once in the season to change the coach Grin

https://www.kicker.de/nach-sturz-auf-platz-sechs-schalke-04-entlaesst-grammozis-892846/artikel

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Darmstadt and St. Pauli both didn't make a mistake and won their matches this week. Werder Bremen are going to have their match against Dynamo Dresden today. And Dynamo Dresden are really one of the miserable teams this season as they are trying to cling to the 2nd Bundesliga. Werder Bremen shouldn't have any problem here at all and they should take the first place back. They are my number one contender for the title now. And they really seem like they can make it.

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i think werder bremen will win today against dynamo dresden . then werder bremen will be on top again !
hsv,schalke 04 and heidenheim have lost their games. and the surprise team of the last few games...nürnberg keeps moving upwards.
there will be many interesting and very exciting weeks ahead.

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Quote from: cygan on March 05, 2022, 01:48:58 AM

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really 2 extraordinary games last night, with numerous goals and very exciting final minutes in both games.
darmstadt could still turn the game and continues to fight for promotion and holstein kiel has unfortunately not been able to equalize to get at least 1 point.

today with schalke 04, st. pauli and hamburger sv play 3 more clubs that want to stay in contact with the top of the table. schalke 04 has with hansa rostock, the supposedly weakest opponent. st. pauli (vs. karlsruhe) and hamburg (away at nürnberg), on the other hand, face clubs that will not be beaten so easily and may even win the games

Yes, the match was really interesting and not boring, it even had a tense moment until at the last minute I was finally able to score 1 more goal. The team from Darmstadt turned into happy smiles, not bitter smiles anymore.

FC St. Pauli is now at the second rank for a while, but it will change again if Welder can win the match. The point is very small so that everything can really change.
The most interesting one is the match of Numberg vs Hamburger SV, finally, Numberg could defeat Hamburger SV and now it is on the higher rank. The goal from Tim Handwerker at the last minutes really gave a big result on Numberg and make it the winner.

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Pretty crazy game between Holstein Kiel and Paderborn and definitely big points for Darmstadt. Seems like Darmstadt is having a little turnaround from the little low they had in the meantime. Going to be some interesting weeks for the second league and Darmstadt seems to be the only surprise this season.

I wonder whether this will end with another season in the second league for Hamburg Cheesy

They finished 4th for the three years in a row!! ...

The game was pretty insane from the start. Kiel chased Paderborn everytime they were able to score 3 goals but werent able to at least draw the game. This is why germans games are really good is because of their mentality is because they dont give up ever

Who would have thought that the game could still be topped by another game today?

Schalke vs. Rostock was crazy and given that Schalke is trying to get back to league 1, this performance was really not a good one. The only one who once more delivered is Terodde. They have the league's top scorer within their squad and yet give games away when he scores three at a time. Doesn't sound to me like a team that could get promoted in the end.

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Quote from: Ratash on March 05, 2022, 04:42:05 PM

Today hamburger team were not able to get any points in their away game against one of their promotion competitors Nurnburg, they lost 2 1 with a late goal from the home team now werder bremen team can take the second place and the gap between 3rd and the team on the fourth position nurnberg can became 5 points if they win against dresden who are struggling in the relegation zone.

This seems to be developing at Hamburger SV in exactly the same way as the last few years. Something happens at the last mile and they don't win any more. That is really strange. I wonder what it can be?
For Bremen it is a great chance to show tomorrow whether they want to get promoted or not.

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Bremen are now knocked down to 3rd position having still not played and will play today against Dresden.
Statistically this is a fairly easy match considering that Dresden is currently in a bad shape but they also can't see them with one eye because indeed this could be a stumbling block for them.
Good results over these few matches will be very trigger for Bremen and their chances of occupying the top again is still very big for this

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Today hamburger team were not able to get any points in their away game against one of their promotion competitors Nurnburg, they lost 2 1 with a late goal from the home team now werder bremen team can take the second place and the gap between 3rd and the team on the fourth position nurnberg can became 5 points if they win against dresden who are struggling in the relegation zone.

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