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According to what happened, Dortmund attaches importance to the sales business, and makes the team's performance unstable. Every time they do work that looks unprofessional, they always sell players who have fully adapted to the club, and sell players who are playing very well. maybe they will be in the right place if they can keep the team consistent.

But what actually happened is that we don't fully know the management of the Dortmund team, I see the strategy of this team is a little different from the team in general, but I see they are very superior in terms of sales business.

when discussing their business strategy, there is nothing wrong with what is done by the dortmund management, because basically all the teams are trying hard to make money in any way

So far, the players who have been sold by Dortmund to other teams have succeeded in becoming great players, so the Dortmund players will definitely continue to receive supervision from rich teams out there. I admit that the business run by Dortmund is very smart

Sometimes you will miss to see dortmund to get a trophy too. There's nothing wrong focusing into the football business but i think that so many dortmund fans will be very disappointed with the decision that is always being made by dortmund management. Dortmund must have developed the new players instead of keeping them all until the end of season. That's happening anytime. That was making the performance from dortmund will never be stable. It was going up and down again.
The problem is how long dortmund will still able to develop the player like that? i meant you will not get another haaland or judebellingham again for the second time. that's it.

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Leverkusen were also in good shape before this break, yes they can win 3 times in a row so they can be better in the standings. Their 7 defeats during this season were so bad, and also in the Champions League they had to be eliminated because they couldn't compete with Club Brugge, they were the ones who could move on to the next round in the Champions League. I think they are the same as Sevilla in La Liga. Their condition is so worrying, and their performance is very far from what they showed last season. I hope that after this break they can return to the positive track and continue to push up in the standings table.

I believe in Leverkusen to get away more from the relegation field week by week. Like you said they are already on a good winning streak now. Xabi Alonso has started to have a good chemistry with the team in a short time seemingly. This is a really good thing to see because Xabi Alonso doesn't have much of an experience as a manager. I was seeing Leverkusen as similar to Sevilla at the beginning of the season. But now Leverkusen have started to pull themselves together while Sevilla are still in a big mess.

Leverkusen are seven points away from the 6th position as well but there are so many teams between too. I don't know if they can manage to carry themselves to that area before the end of the season. It is a difficult task for sure.

We have sevilla in la liga battling for the relegation and we have leverkusen in bundesliga battling it as well .. it seems 2022 is not a frinedly enough for these big club to shine , while in previous seasons they are doing pretty good above the expectation .

Losing 7 games out of 15 games is a bad record indeed , having 5 wins and 3 of them won it recently ... a sure terrible start of the season , hooing for better second half of the season for leverkusen , i bet the odds for them to win from now going really tempting high . Let's give it a try.

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Nothing can be expected from the Dortmund team, which always prioritizes the business of selling the best players to other teams, so that Dortmund doesn't really care about their current position in the Bundesliga standings. Even though Dortmund's chances of getting into the top four in the Bundesliga standings are still very open and not too far for them to achieve this season. But I don't see Dortmund's passion to achieve that now either.

I wouldn’t exactly put it like that. Dortmund most likely does care about their current position in the Bundesliga. Like all clubs, they’re playing to win. And in my opinion, their chances of getting into the top four in the Bundesliga is almost assured.
Although they’ve got somewhat of a reputation of selling go of some of the best players they’ve ever had who most of them had gone on to play in the English leagues and are doing very well. One thing is sure, they do know how to produce very amazing players

I do not think so. Even though their focus is still on selling their young players for the benefit of the club, they will still care about their current position because the top 3 is still a target for them regardless of anything.
As bad as they are they still have to be in that position to secure a place in the Champions League.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on January 15, 2023, 03:21:04 PM

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Leverkusen were also in good shape before this break, yes they can win 3 times in a row so they can be better in the standings. Their 7 defeats during this season were so bad, and also in the Champions League they had to be eliminated because they couldn't compete with Club Brugge, they were the ones who could move on to the next round in the Champions League. I think they are the same as Sevilla in La Liga. Their condition is so worrying, and their performance is very far from what they showed last season. I hope that after this break they can return to the positive track and continue to push up in the standings table.

I believe in Leverkusen to get away more from the relegation field week by week. Like you said they are already on a good winning streak now. Xabi Alonso has started to have a good chemistry with the team in a short time seemingly. This is a really good thing to see because Xabi Alonso doesn't have much of an experience as a manager. I was seeing Leverkusen as similar to Sevilla at the beginning of the season. But now Leverkusen have started to pull themselves together while Sevilla are still in a big mess.

Leverkusen are seven points away from the 6th position as well but there are so many teams between too. I don't know if they can manage to carry themselves to that area before the end of the season. It is a difficult task for sure.

At least in this case their change of coach is paying off and Xabi can slowly lift Leverkusen's performance in a better direction and of course that is a good thing.
With their current condition they are slowly moving away and are in 12th position. Even though the positions in the Champions League and Europa League zones are still quite far away, at least they are free from the relegation zone now.
Actually when Xabi was here I had my doubts with him a bit but as time has gone on he has continued to prove that he is capable and I like his progress now.

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Still, Bayern Munich's match against RB Leipzig is a serious test. Perhaps the best team after Bayern Munich. It is a pity that Bayern Munich usually has so little opposition in this competition. There used to be a serious title fight with competitor Dortmund, but that is really in the past. I don't know exactly how it came about that the differences between these 2 teams have become so great. They used to be about as good. Dortmund has brought in a lot of money for Haaland, but has now at least got Haaler back, who incidentally scored no fewer than 3 goals in a last friendly match. He seems to have fully recovered from his illness.

Leipzig is a tough team in the SerieA that bayern Munich needs to be careful about, any small mistakes from Bayern Munich can lead to the victory of Leipzig. Bayern Munich still has big chances of winning the match against Leipzig.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on January 15, 2023, 03:21:04 PM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on January 15, 2023, 12:23:03 PM

Leverkusen were also in good shape before this break, yes they can win 3 times in a row so they can be better in the standings. Their 7 defeats during this season were so bad, and also in the Champions League they had to be eliminated because they couldn't compete with Club Brugge, they were the ones who could move on to the next round in the Champions League. I think they are the same as Sevilla in La Liga. Their condition is so worrying, and their performance is very far from what they showed last season. I hope that after this break they can return to the positive track and continue to push up in the standings table.

I believe in Leverkusen to get away more from the relegation field week by week. Like you said they are already on a good winning streak now. Xabi Alonso has started to have a good chemistry with the team in a short time seemingly. This is a really good thing to see because Xabi Alonso doesn't have much of an experience as a manager. I was seeing Leverkusen as similar to Sevilla at the beginning of the season. But now Leverkusen have started to pull themselves together while Sevilla are still in a big mess.
Leverkusen are seven points away from the 6th position as well but there are so many teams between too. I don't know if they can manage to carry themselves to that area before the end of the season. It is a difficult task for sure.

Leverkusen does have three back-to-back wins in the league. In the next competitive match, they are going to play against Monchengladbach. That is going to be a relatively harder match. But the thing is, Leverkusen is currently in better form compared to Monchengladbach.

So, I think they might actually be able to win this match. And right now just because of the bad condition of Leverkusen, we cannot say that they are not going to face any trouble in a certain match just because they had performed better against those teams in previous seasons.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on January 15, 2023, 12:23:03 PM

Leverkusen were also in good shape before this break, yes they can win 3 times in a row so they can be better in the standings. Their 7 defeats during this season were so bad, and also in the Champions League they had to be eliminated because they couldn't compete with Club Brugge, they were the ones who could move on to the next round in the Champions League. I think they are the same as Sevilla in La Liga. Their condition is so worrying, and their performance is very far from what they showed last season. I hope that after this break they can return to the positive track and continue to push up in the standings table.

I believe in Leverkusen to get away more from the relegation field week by week. Like you said they are already on a good winning streak now. Xabi Alonso has started to have a good chemistry with the team in a short time seemingly. This is a really good thing to see because Xabi Alonso doesn't have much of an experience as a manager. I was seeing Leverkusen as similar to Sevilla at the beginning of the season. But now Leverkusen have started to pull themselves together while Sevilla are still in a big mess.

Leverkusen are seven points away from the 6th position as well but there are so many teams between too. I don't know if they can manage to carry themselves to that area before the end of the season. It is a difficult task for sure.

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Quote from: CageMabok on January 15, 2023, 04:53:38 AM

Nothing can be expected from the Dortmund team, which always prioritizes the business of selling the best players to other teams, so that Dortmund doesn't really care about their current position in the Bundesliga standings. Even though Dortmund's chances of getting into the top four in the Bundesliga standings are still very open and not too far for them to achieve this season. But I don't see Dortmund's passion to achieve that now either.

I wouldn’t exactly put it like that. Dortmund most likely does care about their current position in the Bundesliga. Like all clubs, they’re playing to win. And in my opinion, their chances of getting into the top four in the Bundesliga is almost assured.
Although they’ve got somewhat of a reputation of selling go of some of the best players they’ve ever had who most of them had gone on to play in the English leagues and are doing very well. One thing is sure, they do know how to produce very amazing players

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Quote from: Fara Chan on January 15, 2023, 09:38:33 AM

Quote from: CageMabok on January 15, 2023, 04:53:38 AM

Nothing can be expected from the Dortmund team, which always prioritizes the business of selling the best players to other teams, so that Dortmund doesn't really care about their current position in the Bundesliga standings. Even though Dortmund's chances of getting into the top four in the Bundesliga standings are still very open and not too far for them to achieve this season. But I don't see Dortmund's passion to achieve that now either.

According to what happened, Dortmund attaches importance to the sales business, and makes the team's performance unstable. Every time they do work that looks unprofessional, they always sell players who have fully adapted to the club, and sell players who are playing very well. maybe they will be in the right place if they can keep the team consistent.
But what actually happened is that we don't fully know the management of the Dortmund team, I see the strategy of this team is a little different from the team in general, but I see they are very superior in terms of sales business.

They are very superior in terms of sales business. But is that the best and actual reason for owning a club?

I think after all a club is known for its trophies, not because of how many young players they were able to bring up and sell and also not even the amount of money. So I think if they want to continue doing what they are doing, I think they can do that because they are obviously making a good amount of money. But if they want to leave behind a legacy, they will have to go for the trophies.

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Quote from: Fara Chan on January 15, 2023, 09:38:33 AM

According to what happened, Dortmund attaches importance to the sales business, and makes the team's performance unstable. Every time they do work that looks unprofessional, they always sell players who have fully adapted to the club, and sell players who are playing very well. maybe they will be in the right place if they can keep the team consistent.

But what actually happened is that we don't fully know the management of the Dortmund team, I see the strategy of this team is a little different from the team in general, but I see they are very superior in terms of sales business.

when discussing their business strategy, there is nothing wrong with what is done by the dortmund management, because basically all the teams are trying hard to make money in any way

So far, the players who have been sold by Dortmund to other teams have succeeded in becoming great players, so the Dortmund players will definitely continue to receive supervision from rich teams out there. I admit that the business run by Dortmund is very smart

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Leverkusen were also in good shape before this break, yes they can win 3 times in a row so they can be better in the standings. Their 7 defeats during this season were so bad, and also in the Champions League they had to be eliminated because they couldn't compete with Club Brugge, they were the ones who could move on to the next round in the Champions League. I think they are the same as Sevilla in La Liga. Their condition is so worrying, and their performance is very far from what they showed last season. I hope that after this break they can return to the positive track and continue to push up in the standings table.

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Quote from: CageMabok on January 15, 2023, 04:53:38 AM

Nothing can be expected from the Dortmund team, which always prioritizes the business of selling the best players to other teams, so that Dortmund doesn't really care about their current position in the Bundesliga standings. Even though Dortmund's chances of getting into the top four in the Bundesliga standings are still very open and not too far for them to achieve this season. But I don't see Dortmund's passion to achieve that now either.

According to what happened, Dortmund attaches importance to the sales business, and makes the team's performance unstable. Every time they do work that looks unprofessional, they always sell players who have fully adapted to the club, and sell players who are playing very well. maybe they will be in the right place if they can keep the team consistent.

But what actually happened is that we don't fully know the management of the Dortmund team, I see the strategy of this team is a little different from the team in general, but I see they are very superior in terms of sales business.

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Quote from: CageMabok on January 15, 2023, 04:53:38 AM

Nothing can be expected from the Dortmund team, which always prioritizes the business of selling the best players to other teams, so that Dortmund doesn't really care about their current position in the Bundesliga standings. Even though Dortmund's chances of getting into the top four in the Bundesliga standings are still very open and not too far for them to achieve this season. But I don't see Dortmund's passion to achieve that now either.

Agreed, that's why the performance from dortmund was always inconsistent anytime. Selling the players that already fully adapted with the club was a very bad decision for sure but dortmund consider financial of club was far important compared with winning the trophy. As a team that is not having lots of money and dortmund can be considered as a very good club. The club was always developing the new player into the professional players and then selling its fully developed player to the another club.
The team with very smart business mind unlike so many major clubs who have been spending so much money for nothing. Since PSG was destroying the price of players in the market and this time so many clubs were putting crazy price.

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U wouldn't think Dortmund should be in 6th place in the Bundesliga standing but it happened. I'm not surprised to see Dortmund in that position. I mean what do u expect from a club that makes Business a priority over achievement? For the past how many years now they have been in this so it is no more surprising. As it is now, gets ready to see well-groomed Dortmund's new stars that will be sold the next summer and worry less about their standing at the table.

Nothing can be expected from the Dortmund team, which always prioritizes the business of selling the best players to other teams, so that Dortmund doesn't really care about their current position in the Bundesliga standings. Even though Dortmund's chances of getting into the top four in the Bundesliga standings are still very open and not too far for them to achieve this season. But I don't see Dortmund's passion to achieve that now either.

Indeed, if Dortmund don't go into the business of selling players as much as they did last season they would certainly have a better place in the bundesliga standings. But sometimes we also don't know what are the benchmarks for carrying out this strategy for a club. Apart from that, Dortmund can always get good players and that is probably rarely owned by other clubs, which makes other clubs end up hunting their players in the transfer market. But with the current squad of players, Dortmund can still compete in the top 4, but it's just that their performance for this season is still dropping and hasn't returned consistently.

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I can't wait for the Bundesliga to restart, I want to see the changes that might be experienced by the participating teams here. If you look at other top leagues, I would say that there are changes, although not too big, like in the Premier League, one by one the teams are starting to improve and there are also teams that are actually getting worse.
In the Bundesliga I don't think it will be too significant, some teams that played well before the break, maybe will continue to show their good game. But to prove that we have to see the League run first.

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Quote from: CageMabok on January 15, 2023, 04:53:38 AM

Nothing can be expected from the Dortmund team, which always prioritizes the business of selling the best players to other teams, so that Dortmund doesn't really care about their current position in the Bundesliga standings. Even though Dortmund's chances of getting into the top four in the Bundesliga standings are still very open and not too far for them to achieve this season. But I don't see Dortmund's passion to achieve that now either.

One does not interfere with the other, any team cares about their results in the championship, and of course it is very important for Dortmund to be in the Champions League, so if you are talking about business, selling players, they definitely need a place in the Champions League, because this is actually a tournament in which they can showcase their best players, and of course this is only possible if the team can play well in the Champions League.

I think that it is better if they improve their form in the Bundesliga first before talking about the Champions League. A place in the Champions League is indeed very important, but it must be accompanied by good performances too. Don't let them just be "complementary" when playing there. Their Bundesliga has more opportunities to get achievements, so instead of wanting to get more in the Champions League they have to get a trophy first in the Bundesliga.

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Still, Bayern Munich's match against RB Leipzig is a serious test. Perhaps the best team after Bayern Munich. It is a pity that Bayern Munich usually has so little opposition in this competition. There used to be a serious title fight with competitor Dortmund, but that is really in the past. I don't know exactly how it came about that the differences between these 2 teams have become so great. They used to be about as good. Dortmund has brought in a lot of money for Haaland, but has now at least got Haaler back, who incidentally scored no fewer than 3 goals in a last friendly match. He seems to have fully recovered from his illness.

Since after Dortmund was on the verge of bankruptcy in 2005, Die Borussen no longer has the ambition to target winning a trophy in any competition. they are more looking for young talents, then sell them after becoming a star. Dortmund gain a lot of coffers of money by selling their stars, so Dortmund does not rely too much on sponsors and ticket sales.

I have repeatedly posted regarding the Dortmund business. so don't expect Dortmund to compete with Bayern Munich let alone have the ambition to win a championship trophy. Currently, Haller has been declared fully recovered from his testicular cancer. it looks like Haller will certainly make his debut in the Bundesliga in the second half of this season. at least, Edin Terzic will prioritize his troops to finish in the top four of the Bundesliga until the end of this season. so, let's just see Dortmund's performance in the second half of this season.

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Quote from: CageMabok on January 15, 2023, 04:53:38 AM

Nothing can be expected from the Dortmund team, which always prioritizes the business of selling the best players to other teams, so that Dortmund doesn't really care about their current position in the Bundesliga standings. Even though Dortmund's chances of getting into the top four in the Bundesliga standings are still very open and not too far for them to achieve this season. But I don't see Dortmund's passion to achieve that now either.

One does not interfere with the other, any team cares about their results in the championship, and of course it is very important for Dortmund to be in the Champions League, so if you are talking about business, selling players, they definitely need a place in the Champions League, because this is actually a tournament in which they can showcase their best players, and of course this is only possible if the team can play well in the Champions League.

Dortmund will still care about their position in the Bundesliga. although at the moment they look more to do business with their great players. but of course, they have to pay attention to their position in the standings.
it's just that the current business they do tends to make their appearance inconsistent. but it doesn't matter if they are still aiming for the top 4. the difference in points with the top 4 standings is not far away. there is still enough time for Dortmund to enter the top 4.

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Quote from: CageMabok on January 15, 2023, 04:53:38 AM

Nothing can be expected from the Dortmund team, which always prioritizes the business of selling the best players to other teams, so that Dortmund doesn't really care about their current position in the Bundesliga standings. Even though Dortmund's chances of getting into the top four in the Bundesliga standings are still very open and not too far for them to achieve this season. But I don't see Dortmund's passion to achieve that now either.

One does not interfere with the other, any team cares about their results in the championship, and of course it is very important for Dortmund to be in the Champions League, so if you are talking about business, selling players, they definitely need a place in the Champions League, because this is actually a tournament in which they can showcase their best players, and of course this is only possible if the team can play well in the Champions League.

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We know now they are trying hard to find a replacement goalkeeper for Manuel Neuer who has been sidelined due to injury.

Maybe Munich can repatriate Alexander Nubel from AS Monaco. But Munich has to spend money because of the loan period until this summer. But there may be other options such as Moroccan goalkeeper Yassine Bounou he performed well in the last World Cup. It's also possible that Emiliano Martinez could also be another option, he brought argentina the champions. I think Bayern will have no money trouble. They have the option to choose and I think the name above is good for Nuer's replacement.

At first there were about 4 names associated with Bayern Munich, but it seems that the transfer never happened until we finally see it now. I think they need a goalkeeper for their games in the Champions League, because in the Bundesliga I think a goalkeeper now is enough for them. It depends on them, whether they will give more confidence to the goalkeepers they have, or they are not sure enough about the goalkeepers they currently have.

I wouldn't say Neuer didn't concede a goal while he was fully around. But it wouldn't be against a club like Salzburg that was humiliated by inter and Ac Milan. Giving 4 goals to Salzburg is a very difficult thing to think of assuming one wants to include it in a bet slip. The match showed how vulnerable Bayern Munich could be in the champion league if the management fails to do something about it

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