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Quote from: hahay on August 24, 2024, 11:08:53 AM

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Interesting bet. To be honest, I didn’t think that it was possible to add such similar outcomes as total over and total under to one multi-bet. I understand that these are actually different outcomes and how in this case one outcome may play out and the other may not, but it still looks questionable.
I wonder if there are situations when such a multi-bet "total over 2.5 and total under 3.5" has a better coefficient than the "profit" from four bets on the exact score (1-2, 2-1, 3-0, 0-3).

Honestly, I also never put the same match in a multi bet, because from several attempts such bets are not allowed. But in fact, I have seen several times that they can make multi bets with the same match and only the betting options are the difference, as in the screenshot. But yes, I think it doesn't matter about that either, but about bets with the over 2.5 and or under 3.5 options, basically it's just about the goal total in the match. So, the scores you mentioned like that are clearly winning bets if the bet is about over and under the total goals you mentioned.~

They are winning, the question is what is more profitable - to bet on the exact score or a multi-bet on total less*total more. For example, we make a multi-bet on total under than 3.5 and total over than 2.5 with odds X for the amount of 100 dollars. Or we make 4 bets of 25 dollars on the exact score (2-1, 1-2, 3-0, 0-3) with odds of Y1, Y2, Y3, Y4. Let's say the game ends exactly this way (one of 4 outcomes), then what would be more profitable - the first bet or the second (in the form of 4 bets).

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Quote from: asriloni on August 25, 2024, 02:32:30 AM

That game showed what can go wrong in a football game when players can't play their actual positions. It's vital to the team's tactics. This happens when Stuttgart puts Stiller as CB instead of playing him in his actual position as CM. It makes him struggle with his new role, while the fact that Stuttgart still really needs him as a central midfielder remains.

Stuttgart's defense is being gutted. It's worsening with him as CB. He must be subbed as center-back for his poor play. But I'm good with Ito and Anton; they're obviously hard to replace in our defensive line.

Sometimes coaches try to experiment with player positions and in the end some of them are not able to do their job, but it is also not uncommon for players who are placed out of position to end up playing quite satisfactorily. In that match, Stuttgart's coach's strategy was not quite right because he tried to make changes that did not have a good effect on the team. If this continues then I am sure Stuttgart will not get the results they want.

The midfield is very important in determining the direction of the attack and when players do not have a high level of creativity, the game will not go according to the desired scheme. In this case, I also agree with you that the roles of Ito and Anton are still quite difficult to replace by anyone now.

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Quote from: snipie on August 24, 2024, 10:01:06 AM

Freiburg 3 - 1 Stuttgart after 68 minutes.
It is either Stuttgart good old days ended or Freiburg returned to their previous good form.

That game showed what can go wrong in a football game when players can't play their actual positions. It's vital to the team's tactics. This happens when Stuttgart puts Stiller as CB instead of playing him in his actual position as CM. It makes him struggle with his new role, while the fact that Stuttgart still really needs him as a central midfielder remains.

Stuttgart's defense is being gutted. It's worsening with him as CB. He must be subbed as center-back for his poor play. But I'm good with Ito and Anton; they're obviously hard to replace in our defensive line.

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Quote from: klidex on August 24, 2024, 10:22:25 PM

Bundesliga clubs that won their first match in this opening match include:
Freiburg against Stuttgart
Dortmund against Frankfurt
Leverkusen against Mönchengladbach
Hoffeinheim against Holstein Kiel
Leipzig against Bochum.

Honestly, I was surprised by Stuttgart's defeat against Freiburg even though last season Stuttgart was an impressive club but in this opening match they achieved less than satisfactory results, is it because they have lost their goal-scoring machine Guraissy which has caused a decline in their performance this season?

After that we will watch the rest of the first match, namely Bayern Munich vs Wolfsburg and St. Pauli vs Heidenheim, I just have to wait for the results of Bayern Munich's match tonight to win this bet.

You are likely to win the bet, it is a good betting choice, Bayern Munich will definitely win the match against Wolfsburg if there is no big surprise because the Bayern team with its new coach is currently having high confidence so the early season match is quite important for them to win.

The match that has finished there was no big surprise except for Stuttgart's defeat, it was quite surprising to me when I saw the Livescore even though initially they were already 1 goal ahead in the 2nd minute and it should have made Stuttgart's team play more freely but on the contrary, when that goal happened Stuttgart's performance actually declined and they seemed unable to develop their game, if you look at their performance last season it is clear that Stuttgart has experienced a significant decline in quality this season.

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Bundesliga clubs that won their first match in this opening match include:
Freiburg against Stuttgart
Dortmund against Frankfurt
Leverkusen against Mönchengladbach
Hoffeinheim against Holstein Kiel
Leipzig against Bochum.

Honestly, I was surprised by Stuttgart's defeat against Freiburg even though last season Stuttgart was an impressive club but in this opening match they achieved less than satisfactory results, is it because they have lost their goal-scoring machine Guraissy which has caused a decline in their performance this season?

After that we will watch the rest of the first match, namely Bayern Munich vs Wolfsburg and St. Pauli vs Heidenheim, I just have to wait for the results of Bayern Munich's match tonight to win this bet.

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Quote from: Docnaster on August 24, 2024, 06:44:38 PM

After Bayer Leverkusen came scored in the 11th minute of additional time in their game against Borussia Monchengladbach to snatch a victory, the club's official social media account captioned their post on the win as "This season, last season, any season, we don't give up". I think that sums up the spirit of resilience in the team as well as the "never give up" spirit that the club manager Xabi Alonso have built in the club. Florian Wirtz was the man of the match after a spectacular performance from the German international. I think Bayer Leverkusen aren't stopping their impressive performance of last season. Maybe they'll shock the footballing world by retaining the league title. Do you think that is possible?

I agree with you. I usually tell people that if you're playing against Leverkusen and you hold them to a draw in, don't get excited that you've got yourself a point until the game's over because they've been known to pull the rug from under teams in dying minutes. I always had this confidence that Xabi will collect three points in their first game and they did it with so much finesse only them could be capable of doing.
This performance by them has left an open challenge for the other big boys and if there will any competition, these clubs will have to win with three points. Dortmund did theirs yesterday, we'd be looking forward to the likes of Bayern and the rest.

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Quote from: bitLeap on August 24, 2024, 11:49:30 AM

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Damn , looks like that Leverkusen starting the same into the season as they finished the last one , lucky with scoring in overtime and won that game.

Yes Leverkusen does not seem to have dropped much, it can even be said that it is much more prepared for this season. They started with 3 points over Monchengladbach, although I admit that both teams games are equally strong. But what makes the difference is Xabi Alonso way of pressing the opponent relentlessly which makes Monchengladbach defense more open because they are unable to accept the onslaught from Leverkusen players. Xhaka, Grimaldo and Wirtz became heroes as usual, these three players' movements are very free.

After Bayer Leverkusen came scored in the 11th minute of additional time in their game against Borussia Monchengladbach to snatch a victory, the club's official social media account captioned their post on the win as "This season, last season, any season, we don't give up". I think that sums up the spirit of resilience in the team as well as the "never give up" spirit that the club manager Xabi Alonso have built in the club. Florian Wirtz was the man of the match after a spectacular performance from the German international. I think Bayer Leverkusen aren't stopping their impressive performance of last season. Maybe they'll shock the footballing world by retaining the league title. Do you think that is possible?

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Quote from: Ndabagi01 on August 24, 2024, 05:45:47 PM

Quote from: MK-74 on August 23, 2024, 06:38:27 PM

Bayern Leverkusen continues where they left off in the league, they opened the new season with a win.
We watched an enjoyable match tonight. Let's see what kind of B.Leverkusen we will watch this season.
Granit Xhaka opened the season with a very nice goal tonight.

It is very impressive to see that Bayern Leverkusen have started on a remarkable note this season again. They’ve come a long way to make things work them this season also and what with their opening game, it’s sure going to be an entertaining season for them just like the previous ones. They scores an extra time goal in this game and that’s to say they haven’t left scoring final minutes goals again. However, they should be careful because they can’t always be lucky with this type of goals. Being a defending champion and still wanting to defend the championship requires extra effort and dedication, they should give their all in this season to make things work for them.

That's right, the effort to defend the title is indeed much harder, Leverkusen needs to work hard and must not be arrogant in order to repeat the success like last season. I also agree with you, Xabi Alonso must encourage his players to score goals in normal time, because the victory achieved at the end of the match is nothing more than luck. Of course it is true, luck will not always be on their side, therefore scoring a quick goal would be better to make the game more relaxed without pressure. Many thought the match would end in a draw, Monchengladbach surprisingly managed to put up a fight in the second half. Next, Leverkusen will face Leipzig, a match that I think will be troublesome for both teams. However, Leverkusen chances of securing full points are certainly greater, because besides having good consistency they will play in front of their own supporters at the BayArena stadium. Meanwhile, it must be admitted that the goal scored by Granit Xhaka was truly beautiful, he did not celebrate excessively out of respect for his former club.

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Quote from: len01 on August 24, 2024, 02:50:47 PM

Losing a mainstay player (Guirassy) certainly makes Stuttgart experience a decline in performance and it is natural that Stuttgart has to lose points even though there are new players like Demirovic but he needs time to adapt and certainly will not be like Guirassy. 3-1 is a humiliating defeat for Stuttgart and must evaluate what mistakes occurred in the defense and attack line which still looks very weak.

Indeed, Serhou Guirassy in Stuttgart last season was extraordinary, he even made history in the club as the top scorer in Stuttgart. And now, the club's forward really lost a strong figure in front. It will be quite difficult for Stuttgart to be as sharp as before with the current club combination.

Even though they had been ahead since the 2nd minute, they were unable to optimize the various opportunities that existed. In fact, the opponent's counter attack was difficult for Stuttgart to withstand. The front line was not as accurate as before, and the back line had a pretty bad defense.

Source: Freiburg vs Stuttgart

This stat tells everything.
Stuttgart had more ball positions, but the number of attacks, on the contrary, was far less than Freiburg who only had very few chances.

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Quote from: Weawant on August 24, 2024, 05:27:10 PM

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Leverkusen got my attention with that score line which I consider a very good start for the season, and I believe they are going to be able to maintain that form for the longest this season, as it's a very vital and much needed if they will want to get the bundesliga title again this season as they had done last season, all your bets were good picks with very high probability of scaling through, but the one you lost was also a high probable game aswell but was only not lucky enough to have won it. What Leverkusen does is that they begin very early to get that confidence that will carry them through the season so betting on them could mean making some adjustments that will keep you safe if they loose or draw as that's their high tendency results.

Yes, Leverkusen did have some very promising performances at the start of this season. They are reliable and do play as one would expect, not letting their supporters down. A strong start to the season instills great belief in them, and if they continue this consistency, then certainly they will be one of the top contenders for the Bundesliga title once more. Therefore, it would seem a wise time to place a bet on Bayer Leverkusen; they have shown solid and reliable performances.

With the performance, they have proved that they are worthy of being relied on, and it is not just a fluke. The team looks stronger than before, more compact with high-determined players & applying a strategy rather than immature tactics. The early stages of the competition are not only about building confidence but also showing readiness to compete at the highest levels throughout the entire competition.

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Quote from: MK-74 on August 23, 2024, 06:38:27 PM

Bayern Leverkusen continues where they left off in the league, they opened the new season with a win.
We watched an enjoyable match tonight. Let's see what kind of B.Leverkusen we will watch this season.
Granit Xhaka opened the season with a very nice goal tonight.

It is very impressive to see that Bayern Leverkusen have started on a remarkable note this season again. They’ve come a long way to make things work them this season also and what with their opening game, it’s sure going to be an entertaining season for them just like the previous ones. They scores an extra time goal in this game and that’s to say they haven’t left scoring final minutes goals again. However, they should be careful because they can’t always be lucky with this type of goals. Being a defending champion and still wanting to defend the championship requires extra effort and dedication, they should give their all in this season to make things work for them.

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Quote from: klidex on August 23, 2024, 09:54:09 PM

The Bundesliga match has started Leverkusen and Mönchengladbach started today's opening match Leverkusen got 3 points in this match beating Mönchengladbach with a score of 2:3
It seems that Leverkusen's performance is still quite strong in the Bundesliga, they are determined to win the title again and compete with the top clubs in the Bundesliga, I still favor Leverkusen for every match in the Bundesliga.

Unfortunately I lost my bet on this match because I predicted that neither Leverkusen nor Mönchengladbach would score more than 4.5 but it turned out that my prediction was wrong, there were 5 goals in this match Cry

Leverkusen got my attention with that score line which I consider a very good start for the season, and I believe they are going to be able to maintain that form for the longest this season, as it's a very vital and much needed if they will want to get the bundesliga title again this season as they had done last season, all your bets were good picks with very high probability of scaling through, but the one you lost was also a high probable game aswell but was only not lucky enough to have won it. What Leverkusen does is that they begin very early to get that confidence that will carry them through the season so betting on them could mean making some adjustments that will keep you safe if they loose or draw as that's their high tendency results.

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Quote from: Weawant on August 22, 2024, 05:43:09 PM

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I think so too, because I think they are stronger currently, especially Bayer Leverkusen. I think they are the favourite because Bayern Munich have a new coach and many people are still thinking they may not be able to get the title this season while Leverkusen may repeat the same thing as last season again, although we aren’t sure yet. As for Dortmund, they are good, but I'm still yet to see the performance that will lead them to the top and give them the chance of fighting for the title. Let's see how the season goes.

I will not follow to say or think that Bayern Munich cannot be able to win tbw league title this season, considering the depth of their squad, I don't see a reason you will even think of such, I know Leverkusen is in a very solid form but it's not enough to think any less of Munich who has been dominating all along for a very long time. Oya just a matter of Leverkusen repeating a certain kind of mistake often a nd before you know it, a good opportunity avails for Munich so we cannot give up on them just already until the season ends.

I will always think that Bayern and Lira are the best teams, we must not forget Dortmund either, because they always surprise, but even so I think it is too quick to speculate who could be the winner or who could arrive, we have to see how they are going to play, how they will be positioned on the field, what type of strategy and formation both teams will use, for me all this is delicate, because I know that Bayern should have taken precautions and these are the things that are always going to be considered for any start of the season.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 24, 2024, 02:13:02 PM

I was shocked by the result honestly. Stuttgart started the game really quick with a goal. But Freiburg's answer was really a bitter one. Sad

I saw so many people betting on Stuttgart to win. So much money wasted on them as it seems.

There is no more Guirassy maybe but I like their new attackers too. The goal also belonged to Demirovic. But in the rest of the game, I didn't see a team being very hungry for the win. This was the problem.

Dortmund also started with a win by the way, 2-0.

I thought of betting on their win & over 1.5 goals but couldn't be sure. Dortmund barely scored the 2nd one in the stoppage time.

For me, Dortmund are one of the three favourites for the Bundesliga title this season alongside Bayern and Leverkusen. They have a strong team and Nuri Sahin as a very young coach is bringing in new tactics that are also having an effect. It will be an exciting race for first place, but I think Bayern Munich have the most pressure, let's see what they do tomorrow against Wolfsburg.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 24, 2024, 02:13:02 PM

Quote from: snipie on August 24, 2024, 10:01:06 AM

Freiburg 3 - 1 Stuttgart after 68 minutes.
It is either Stuttgart good old days ended or Freiburg returned to their previous good form.

Leipzig, Mainz and Hoffenheim scored goals in their games and are leading with 1 goal difference. Augsburg 2 - 2 Werder Bremen for the moment and I think more goals are coming in these games.

I was shocked by the result honestly. Stuttgart started the game really quick with a goal. But Freiburg's answer was really a bitter one. Sad

I saw so many people betting on Stuttgart to win. So much money wasted on them as it seems.

There is no more Guirassy maybe but I like their new attackers too. The goal also belonged to Demirovic. But in the rest of the game, I didn't see a team being very hungry for the win. This was the problem.

Dortmund also started with a win by the way, 2-0.

I thought of betting on their win & over 1.5 goals but couldn't be sure. Dortmund barely scored the 2nd one in the stoppage time.

Losing a mainstay player (Guirassy) certainly makes Stuttgart experience a decline in performance and it is natural that Stuttgart has to lose points even though there are new players like Demirovic but he needs time to adapt and certainly will not be like Guirassy. 3-1 is a humiliating defeat for Stuttgart and must evaluate what mistakes occurred in the defense and attack line which still looks very weak.

Dortmund seems much better even though it is known as a team that does business selling its players but this season it seems like it will be a great challenger for top teams like Munich and Leverkusen. The victory in this first match gives good confidence to Dortmund players to continue their careers to get good results and the market value will increase.

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Quote from: snipie on August 24, 2024, 10:01:06 AM

Freiburg 3 - 1 Stuttgart after 68 minutes.
It is either Stuttgart good old days ended or Freiburg returned to their previous good form.

Leipzig, Mainz and Hoffenheim scored goals in their games and are leading with 1 goal difference. Augsburg 2 - 2 Werder Bremen for the moment and I think more goals are coming in these games.

I was shocked by the result honestly. Stuttgart started the game really quick with a goal. But Freiburg's answer was really a bitter one. Sad

I saw so many people betting on Stuttgart to win. So much money wasted on them as it seems.

There is no more Guirassy maybe but I like their new attackers too. The goal also belonged to Demirovic. But in the rest of the game, I didn't see a team being very hungry for the win. This was the problem.

Dortmund also started with a win by the way, 2-0.

I thought of betting on their win & over 1.5 goals but couldn't be sure. Dortmund barely scored the 2nd one in the stoppage time.

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Quote from: MK-74 on August 23, 2024, 06:38:27 PM

Bayern Leverkusen continues where they left off in the league, they opened the new season with a win.
We watched an enjoyable match tonight. Let's see what kind of B.Leverkusen we will watch this season.
Granit Xhaka opened the season with a very nice goal tonight.

Leverkusen are back with their stoppage time goals to win the match just has they used to do it last season, it was an entertaining match but Leverkusen needs to be more careful this time around they might not be always lucky this season. They almost bottled a 2 goal lead and were lucky they conceded a penalty late in the game, they need to strengthen their defense because they concede too many goals and it’s bad for defending champions.

It a good way to start their season it means they still got their game. We don’t know what Bayern Munich will play tomorrow but they will have to win their game if they want to challenge for the title.

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Quote from: Lafu on August 24, 2024, 10:54:32 AM

Damn , looks like that Leverkusen starting the same into the season as they finished the last one , lucky with scoring in overtime and won that game.

Yes Leverkusen does not seem to have dropped much, it can even be said that it is much more prepared for this season. They started with 3 points over Monchengladbach, although I admit that both teams games are equally strong. But what makes the difference is Xabi Alonso way of pressing the opponent relentlessly which makes Monchengladbach defense more open because they are unable to accept the onslaught from Leverkusen players. Xhaka, Grimaldo and Wirtz became heroes as usual, these three players' movements are very free.

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Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on August 24, 2024, 01:54:32 AM

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I think there is luck in football and that's why you see some team playing very well but still find it difficult to win matches as a result of hard luck but you get to see their opponent scoring goals with the little opportunities they get that's not just about playing well but also having the winning luck. Bayer Leverkusen had the luck working for them last season and they managed to win the league and in their first league game this season they have started with the same performance on this note I think it has become part of the team to always get the last results after 90 minute this is good performance and luck.

Besides chance, Bayer Leverkusen plays smart, strategic football.

Scoring late in games, time and time again? That shows their grit and effort, not luck. It needs mental courage to keep going while time is running out. Some people say Leverkusen's success is luck, but I dont believe it. You cant constantly perform last-minute win without a well-organized squad and winning mindset.

These men play top-tier football. They're generating and taking advantage of opportunities, not just getting lucky. Great teams like Manchester City and Barcelona come to mind. They win even when the odds are against them. That's champion quality, not luck. So give credit where credit is due. Bayer Leverkusen proves their dominance week after week. Never underestimate them - they have the expertise, strategy, and willpower to defeat anyone.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 24, 2024, 10:44:55 AM

Quote from: klidex on August 23, 2024, 09:54:09 PM

The Bundesliga match has started Leverkusen and Mönchengladbach started today's opening match Leverkusen got 3 points in this match beating Mönchengladbach with a score of 2:3
It seems that Leverkusen's performance is still quite strong in the Bundesliga, they are determined to win the title again and compete with the top clubs in the Bundesliga, I still favor Leverkusen for every match in the Bundesliga.

Unfortunately I lost my bet on this match because I predicted that neither Leverkusen nor Mönchengladbach would score more than 4.5 but it turned out that my prediction was wrong, there were 5 goals in this match Cry

Interesting bet. To be honest, I didn’t think that it was possible to add such similar outcomes as total over and total under to one multi-bet. I understand that these are actually different outcomes and how in this case one outcome may play out and the other may not, but it still looks questionable.
I wonder if there are situations when such a multi-bet "total over 2.5 and total under 3.5" has a better coefficient than the "profit" from four bets on the exact score (1-2, 2-1, 3-0, 0-3).

Honestly, I also never put the same match in a multi bet, because from several attempts such bets are not allowed. But in fact, I have seen several times that they can make multi bets with the same match and only the betting options are the difference, as in the screenshot. But yes, I think it doesn't matter about that either, but about bets with the over 2.5 and or under 3.5 options, basically it's just about the goal total in the match. So, the scores you mentioned like that are clearly winning bets if the bet is about over and under the total goals you mentioned.

But, about Bayer Leverkusen I might wonder, whether Bayer Leverkusen will still be very lucky this season. Also considering, the fact that the third goal that Bayer Leverkusen had also happened in the 90+11 minute and thus, then maybe I say it's also luck. Because after all,in the last season, Bayer Leverkusen actually often made the winning goal in the injury time minutes, and at this moment it happened again. But yes, luckily Bayer Leverkusen still managed to win, because I also made a multi bet for this match.

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