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Many people focus on talking about the rivalry between Bayern Munich and Leverkusen but forget about VfB Stuttgard, last season they were Runner Up while Bayern Munich was below them. This means that for next season's competition I will not rule out VfB Stuttgard. In the midst of the tight competition between Bayern Munich and Leverkusen, it is not impossible that VfB Stuttgard will enter as a mediator to take advantage of the situation and focus on winning trophies. It may sound excessive, but we should not underestimate this club. Vincent Kompany case with Bayern Munich is nothing more than a gamble that has no choice because many famous coaches refuse to become Bayern Munich's coach.
It's been a normal that the focus especially in the bundesliga has mostly been channelled to Bayern Munich and Leverkusen in recent times due to their performance and their form that has been seen in the league so far, with others, it's been like Little or no attention is given to them just like it's been don with Leverkusen untill they became a top team so maybe if Stuttgart gets it right, they may get some more attention and become one of the top recommended teams in the bundesliga and other leagues where they will be participating.
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Dortmund succeed with their strategy to build up their team with young players around the world, then sell them with high transfer prices and repeat the cycle. They did not win many titles recent years but maintained their position good enough in Bundesliga and Champions League.
That's why, Dortmund has its own reasons and strategies to make their club survive and continue until now.

Bryan Zaragoza the player of Bayern Munich left this team and he is about to join Valencia however we are not sure about his destination yet.
It seems that both Valencia and Osasuna are quite interested in Bryan Zaragoza (22). And Osasuna have already started negotiations with Bayern Munich.

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Osasuna in negotiations with Zaragoza for 1-year loan, with option to buy + loan fee + higher salary coverage

Source: Osasuna are advancing in negotiations with Bayern Munich
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Borussia Dortmund use to be very consistent on there Bundesliga then but now a lot of things has changed about them, though Borussia Dortmund is well known in terms of generating a good players because the above listed names are currently doing very well on there current clubs.
Borrusia Dortmund have to spark their shining stars because that's the only path to bring them back to winning ways. It's never going to be easy for them because the board made huge mistakes in previous seasons. It's never been an easy road for Borrusia Dortmund, they sold all the potential talents and left with nothing currently. However we have nothing to worry about because they're always lucky to have in possession incredible young players.


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Although Dortmund is always considered as a player selling team, but I think they are still trying to be a champion contender all this time, yes maybe they didn't succeed in winning the championship trophy but at least it will increase the market value of their players so far, I think there is no big team that doesn't want to win the championship trophy In the end, however, we also cannot deny that without selling players it will only make the several team not run well, because they do not have strong finances compared to other teams.


Dortmund terrible squad with their former star players:

How can a team that doesn’t keep their star players win titles?
Dortmund have several opportunities to overtook Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga for several seasons, they are always going head to toe with them when it comes to title challenge, but they always fail because the team’s main aim is no make money and not to make their fans proud. They do sell out all their start players that should have been of help to them to win any title across Europe.

Considering the squad in the image above, even though age would have affected some players, but if the team is able to keep these squad, they couldn’t have lost the Champions League final they lost last season and they could have won several Bundesliga and other domestic titles.
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Everything that is being discussed here now is just speculation, nothing more, because it is not known how Kompany will be able to manage Bayern, but everyone is used to Bayern not giving up their advantage in the Bundesliga for a long time and therefore expect that this time everything will return to normal. Dortmund have strengthened well in the off-season, so we can expect that they will be able to rise higher than 5th place in the table, Stuttgart will most likely not be able to repeat the same thing again, but we are left with Bayer, from whom we do not yet know what to expect, they will either beat everyone again, or it will turn out that this was just one successful season for Alonso.
Last season we saw the difference in competition in the Bundesliga because several Bundesliga teams were able to advance stronger so that they competed with Bayern Munich and even Leverkusen managed to break Bayern's dominance to win the Bundesliga title.
So it is the same for next season, the same thing is likely to happen regardless of who wins the Bundesliga title later but what is certain is that the fierce competition for it will happen again.

And a lot of talk about Vincent Kompany I think is reasonable because currently some people are optimistic about Vincent Kompany and some doubt Vincent Kompany to be able to make Bayern better next season.
So Vincent Kompany's role with Bayern next season will be quite anticipated by many people.
Many people focus on talking about the rivalry between Bayern Munich and Leverkusen but forget about VfB Stuttgard, last season they were Runner Up while Bayern Munich was below them. This means that for next season's competition I will not rule out VfB Stuttgard. In the midst of the tight competition between Bayern Munich and Leverkusen, it is not impossible that VfB Stuttgard will enter as a mediator to take advantage of the situation and focus on winning trophies. It may sound excessive, but we should not underestimate this club. Vincent Kompany case with Bayern Munich is nothing more than a gamble that has no choice because many famous coaches refuse to become Bayern Munich's coach.
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Last season we saw the difference in competition in the Bundesliga because several Bundesliga teams were able to advance stronger so that they competed with Bayern Munich and even Leverkusen managed to break Bayern's dominance to win the Bundesliga title.
So it is the same for next season, the same thing is likely to happen regardless of who wins the Bundesliga title later but what is certain is that the fierce competition for it will happen again.

And a lot of talk about Vincent Kompany I think is reasonable because currently some people are optimistic about Vincent Kompany and some doubt Vincent Kompany to be able to make Bayern better next season.
So Vincent Kompany's role with Bayern next season will be quite anticipated by many people.
It must be admitted, Leverkusen performed very well last season and managed to break the record as the team that was undefeated in the Bundesliga for one season. Bayern Munich failure to maintain its dominance was due to the decline in performance experienced by its squad, they easily lost points when playing against other big teams.
This season the competition will continue because Leverkusen still retains the players who won the trophy last season, while Bayern Munich is trying to get out of their declining performance by bringing in new players and changing coaches. Kompany has a big responsibility in his first season in charge of Munich, his task is not easy because he has to compete with a team that was able to maintain its best performance last season.

For the first time in Bundesliga history, Leverkusen next season has a mission to defend the trophy, and at the same time Bayern Munchen is ambitious to win it back after being the permanent ruler for more than a decade. The competition for the trophy will be even more competitive if Stuttgart, Leipzig and Dortmund are directly involved, making the challenge even more complex. Therefore, I think next season is a moment that many Bundesliga lovers are looking forward to, regardless of who will be the champion at the end of the season.

When I saw Leverkusen successfully retaining a number of its important players from the temptation of the transfer window, I personally think their chances of defending the trophy are quite high. This certainly does not mean to underestimate other Bundesliga contestants, we know Bayern Munchen are the real rulers there. Indeed, repeating the unbeaten record is very difficult, but it seems that their luck will continue because of the Xabi Alonso factor. Kompany must work harder than imagined, because the expectations for Bayern Munchen are not only in the Bundesliga, but also in the Champions League.
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Bryan Zaragoza the player of Bayern Munich left this team and he is about to join Valencia however we are not sure about his destination yet.
What we know from Bryan Zaragoza and his next destination is he wanted to leave Bayern Munich and Kompany agreed to let him leave. But the negotiations with Valencia are not done yet and everything is complicated with Valencia That's why there is more chance for Zaragoza to join Girona and play there in the next season.

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Borussia Dortmund use to be very consistent on there Bundesliga then but now a lot of things has changed about them, though Borussia Dortmund is well known in terms of generating a good players because the above listed names are currently doing very well on there current clubs.

Ever since I knew the Bundesliga, Dortmund has always been able to produce great players who go to big teams. In fact, they don't seem to have any intention of winning the league because they always sell their best players. But it seems that Dortmund has become a business-oriented club. As long as they are not bad in the League and have an advantage then they will not be a problem. It seems that supporters are also not too fanatical about the champion.

Yes indeed, it seems like Dortmund fans are not too fanatical about Dortmund getting a trophy because so far,  Dortmund fans have remained fine in supporting Dortmund in every match. But even though it seems like Dortmund fans are not fanatical about trophies,at least Dortmund fans are very fanatical in supporting their favorite team. Of course, it is evident from the many actions carried out by Dortmund fans in the stands when the match starts, Dortmund fans are very adept at raising enthusiasm for every Dortmund match.

But, even though Dortmund doesn't always succeed in getting trophies but in reality, Dortmund still has a great effort to remain a team that is in the race for trophies. In fact,last season also Dortmund still managed to qualify for the Champions League final and thus, it was proven that Dortmund still had  good  performance even though they always sold the best players they had.
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The last season in the Bundesliga was just a pure surprise. because nobody thought that Leverkusen would actually be able to win the Bundesliga title. At the same time, the performance from Bayern Munich was pretty average. actually, it has been average for two or three seasons. they were just very lucky to not lose the Bundesliga title to any other club. probably because the other clubs like Dortmund were unable to perform well enough. but anywhere they have finally lost the Bundesliga title. and now they will have to work very hard to actually get the title again.

football will always come with a lot of surprises and people to much expectation to exactly one club and that is very bad because their could be a lot of surprising because a lot of people are already use to one club always winning the bundesliga, Leverkusen did a very good job winning because they were able to make a difference at least this will encourage other clubs to actually do their best. look at the clubs that are always dominating could not even win, so Leverkusen did well. and since a new season will soon start how exactly will they be able to pull things out this season. Bayern Munich played well during the season but their game was already been predicted that they will not be able to win, because Leverkusen was already doing a great job. Leverkusen might do the same thing again this season.

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A lot of people probably do not know that Kompany actually brought his previous club Burnley to the English Premier League by actually getting a promotion with the club. but after that, it was not possible for him to actually keep them in the English Premier League. people probably don't know that and start thinking he was a coach who brought his club down the relegations on and got them relegated. he is actually a good coach and I think with a squad like this he will be able to do a good job.

The way at which people are looking forward to how kompany will be able to bring bayern back to what they use to be, they have a lot of clubs that will be in there way am very sure of that because we don't even expect things to be the way they are, and their will be new clubs coming with new developments, and that is what happened in the case of Leverkusen. what happened in Burnley is one of the reasons why people are losing faith in kompany because serious that club never did well they will start well but they never finish well. bayern needed a coach and they have gotten one so they will deal with their own issue.
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Life is not reverting back and use many assumptions like this. Dortmund succeed with their strategy to build up their team with young players around the world, then sell them with high transfer prices and repeat the cycle. They did not win many titles recent years but maintained their position good enough in Bundesliga and Champions League.

It means Dortmund are growing up sustainably and I believe they will continue with this development strategy than taking more risk to buy star players and pay them higher salary. A healthy finance from sustainable strategy is key of a club future and Dortmund are doing it well.

It's clearly regretful to revert time and look at star players they sold recent years but you can not achieve all things in life, only one or another.
The issue is that if they didn't sell their stars then they would have a great eleven and yeah that's awesome and all that. BUT! the point here is that they had so many stars in their team, and looking at how much money they made from selling these players, and I am looking at just the last five years, and they are in profit, and where is all of that money? They are not spending it back, this team is like running as if it was a company, trying to make a profit.

That's not how it works, teams spend more on transfers than they get, because they also have other income like tv rights and merchandise and tickets etc etc. It means that they should be able to actually make some profit from other stuff that they put on top of their sales and that's what they spend on transfers.

Dortmund isn't like that, their income from transfers is higher than their spending and that makes no sense to me, look at how many amazing players they had in their history, many of them gone just recently, hell Jude himself is just 100 million, and yet when you look at what they did with that money, it is nowhere to be found. What are they doing with all of that money if they are not spending that money on buying up players?
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Everything that is being discussed here now is just speculation, nothing more, because it is not known how Kompany will be able to manage Bayern, but everyone is used to Bayern not giving up their advantage in the Bundesliga for a long time and therefore expect that this time everything will return to normal. Dortmund have strengthened well in the off-season, so we can expect that they will be able to rise higher than 5th place in the table, Stuttgart will most likely not be able to repeat the same thing again, but we are left with Bayer, from whom we do not yet know what to expect, they will either beat everyone again, or it will turn out that this was just one successful season for Alonso.
Last season we saw the difference in competition in the Bundesliga because several Bundesliga teams were able to advance stronger so that they competed with Bayern Munich and even Leverkusen managed to break Bayern's dominance to win the Bundesliga title.
So it is the same for next season, the same thing is likely to happen regardless of who wins the Bundesliga title later but what is certain is that the fierce competition for it will happen again.

And a lot of talk about Vincent Kompany I think is reasonable because currently some people are optimistic about Vincent Kompany and some doubt Vincent Kompany to be able to make Bayern better next season.
So Vincent Kompany's role with Bayern next season will be quite anticipated by many people.

The last season in the Bundesliga was just a pure surprise. because nobody thought that Leverkusen would actually be able to win the Bundesliga title. At the same time, the performance from Bayern Munich was pretty average. actually, it has been average for two or three seasons. they were just very lucky to not lose the Bundesliga title to any other club. probably because the other clubs like Dortmund were unable to perform well enough. but anywhere they have finally lost the Bundesliga title. and now they will have to work very hard to actually get the title again.

A lot of people probably do not know that Kompany actually brought his previous club Burnley to the English Premier League by actually getting a promotion with the club. but after that, it was not possible for him to actually keep them in the English Premier League. people probably don't know that and start thinking he was a coach who brought his club down the relegations on and got them relegated. he is actually a good coach and I think with a squad like this he will be able to do a good job.
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Dortmund terrible squad with their former star players:


Yeah Dortmund could have been even the strongest team in the Bundesliga and a huge threat in the Champions League every year as well. But they didn't keep nearly all of these players here.

The explanation for it is simple. This is their policy. They bring young talents, these players grow and then they get offers from bigger teams. Dortmund doesn't refrain from selling them by a big profit.

Some of them went because of a release clause though otherwise they could have made even bigger profits from those players (such as Haaland).  Smiley  Dortmund don't win titles much but they still make huge sum of money thanks to player sales.

To imagine that all these top players have played in Dortmund before they moved to their respective clubs now is to send much accolades to the club for its great efforts in sighting and acquiring young talents in their team. At a time, Arsenal was like this but looking at this big XI, for a club like Dortmund in the Bundesliga league to have groom such players, you've got to give them a lot of respect for that. Let's not forget to include the impact of Jurgen Klopp in the Liverpool after leaving Dortmund and how he had also groomed the Liverpool squad to face a tougher atmosphere for the subsequent seasons.

If this is an ideology that's adopted by the Dortmund management for now, I will really admire that courage to be able to figure out young talents that will make big names and also using that avenue to build their financial capacity. It's good to create an enabling environment for players to come and thrive and to also use that avenue to grow your finances especially if you don't have much to work with.  It should not just be able to trophies all the time when the club is over stretched with financial crisis like seen in Barcelona recently.
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Dortmund terrible squad with their former star players:


Yeah Dortmund could have been even the strongest team in the Bundesliga and a huge threat in the Champions League every year as well. But they didn't keep nearly all of these players here.

The explanation for it is simple. This is their policy. They bring young talents, these players grow and then they get offers from bigger teams. Dortmund doesn't refrain from selling them by a big profit.

Some of them went because of a release clause though otherwise they could have made even bigger profits from those players (such as Haaland).  Smiley  Dortmund don't win titles much but they still make huge sum of money thanks to player sales.
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Last season we saw the difference in competition in the Bundesliga because several Bundesliga teams were able to advance stronger so that they competed with Bayern Munich and even Leverkusen managed to break Bayern's dominance to win the Bundesliga title.
So it is the same for next season, the same thing is likely to happen regardless of who wins the Bundesliga title later but what is certain is that the fierce competition for it will happen again.

And a lot of talk about Vincent Kompany I think is reasonable because currently some people are optimistic about Vincent Kompany and some doubt Vincent Kompany to be able to make Bayern better next season.
So Vincent Kompany's role with Bayern next season will be quite anticipated by many people.
It must be admitted, Leverkusen performed very well last season and managed to break the record as the team that was undefeated in the Bundesliga for one season. Bayern Munich failure to maintain its dominance was due to the decline in performance experienced by its squad, they easily lost points when playing against other big teams.
This season the competition will continue because Leverkusen still retains the players who won the trophy last season, while Bayern Munich is trying to get out of their declining performance by bringing in new players and changing coaches. Kompany has a big responsibility in his first season in charge of Munich, his task is not easy because he has to compete with a team that was able to maintain its best performance last season.
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The spotlight is on Kompany's coaching career. His early retirement is comparable to Ronaldo and Modric still playing at the top. Burnley wasn't the home run everyone expected, but Bayern Munich is different. Coaches need the ideal environment, and Bayern's organised system may release Kompany's talent

Everyone's a critic, especially in a high-pressure gig, so don't write Kompany off. His coaching career may hinge on this move. Bundesliga next. Dortmund has lots of skill, which is good for competition, but Bayern has a history. They're the standard because. Leverkusen may be the wildcard, but I think Bayern will win, especially with Kompany's new strategies. This may be the start of something spectacular
Kompany does not want to keep players in the team that he does not count on this season, before the transfer window closes, Bayern are planning to let go of Matthijs De Ligt, Kingsley Coman, Bryan Zaragoza and Noussair Mazraoui. Bayern are even ready to give Coman to PSG on loan with the right to buy, Zaragoza has agreed on his transfer with Valencia, and the defenders can presumably move to Manchester United, but so far this is at the negotiation stage, ten Hag has long spoken about the desire to get De Ligt, but the transfer is still not moving forward. Kompany wants to sell these players in order to be able to get Jonathan Tah from Bayer, and Desire Douai from Rennes.
Some players from the team should go. I like De Ligt, but the Bayern coach did not like him for some reason and is trying to sell him. Of course, he also hopes to make money from him. This may be the right thing to do. But still, the defender who will come should be better than him. The Manchester United coach should make an extra effort to get his compatriot. Otherwise, another team may be convincing enough to add De Ligt to their squad.
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Although Dortmund is always considered as a player selling team, but I think they are still trying to be a champion contender all this time, yes maybe they didn't succeed in winning the championship trophy but at least it will increase the market value of their players so far, I think there is no big team that doesn't want to win the championship trophy In the end, however, we also cannot deny that without selling players it will only make the several team not run well, because they do not have strong finances compared to other teams.


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It is undeniable that Borussia Dortmund is a club that is able to produce great players, many other European clubs are unable to follow Dortmund's footsteps in producing talented talents.

However, there is a negative side because they sell too many players who are expected to bring Dortmund trophies.

This is very unfortunate for its fans, because management only cares about profit, the Bundesliga trophy is also important to achieve.

This season I do not have high hopes for Borussia Dortmund because their new coach has not shown good development, it seems that Nuri Sahin will need time to implement his strategy.
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Although Dortmund is always considered as a player selling team, but I think they are still trying to be a champion contender all this time, yes maybe they didn't succeed in winning the championship trophy but at least it will increase the market value of their players so far, I think there is no big team that doesn't want to win the championship trophy In the end, however, we also cannot deny that without selling players it will only make the several team not run well, because they do not have strong finances compared to other teams.


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Have you forgotten they thrashed Real Madrid in the Champions League Semi Finals? They also challenged Bayern Munich during the Champions League Competition Finals that season.... That was Jurgen Klopp in charge honestly that season. I do not see it the way you see it, rather I'd say that they're bottlers, they're not that club with a high mentality who can win the Bundesliga. Sometimes I ask myself what is the difference between Borrussia Dortmund and Arsenal. Any difference?!

Last two seasons, they also bottled another chance to win the Bundesliga League Competition. They had it all to win that last game of the season, even a draw would have won them the Bundesliga League Competition but they bottled it up same way Arsenal always does.
The front three I'm seeing on this image looks boring ASF. They're all goalscoring machines in between. How can you place Robert Lewandoski and Erling Haaland together? Who will assist who?
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The Borussia Dortmund vs Villareal match today ended in a 2-2 draw, which is a fair result for both clubs, especially Dortmund, who were initially 2 goals behind, but this club was able to turn things around and finally hold the Spanish club to a draw.

Luckily I didn't bet on Dortmund winning because I knew Dortmund would definitely to thwart my bet, so betting on BTTS was a reasonable option in this match.


You had a nice prediction, but since Dortmund conceded four goals in their pre-season game against BG Pathum United, I understood that betting on Dortmund to win any of their pre-season games is risky because they did not put the same level of strength into their game as they did in league games. Dortmund's defense was poor against Villarreal, the first goal was conceded due to a defender's error pass to the goalkeeper, but they were lucky to draw the match.

Betting in preseason games is very risky because some big teams that we expected to win have lost to a weaker team because it didn't seem important for them to win, and no team wants to risk any of their players getting injured. Since they started the pre-season games, I haven't been lucky enough to win any bets, whenever I decide to bet, the top team I choose loses their games, so I stopped betting on pre-season games and am waiting for the season to begin. Grin
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The spotlight is on Kompany's coaching career. His early retirement is comparable to Ronaldo and Modric still playing at the top. Burnley wasn't the home run everyone expected, but Bayern Munich is different. Coaches need the ideal environment, and Bayern's organised system may release Kompany's talent

Everyone's a critic, especially in a high-pressure gig, so don't write Kompany off. His coaching career may hinge on this move. Bundesliga next. Dortmund has lots of skill, which is good for competition, but Bayern has a history. They're the standard because. Leverkusen may be the wildcard, but I think Bayern will win, especially with Kompany's new strategies. This may be the start of something spectacular
Kompany does not want to keep players in the team that he does not count on this season, before the transfer window closes, Bayern are planning to let go of Matthijs De Ligt, Kingsley Coman, Bryan Zaragoza and Noussair Mazraoui. Bayern are even ready to give Coman to PSG on loan with the right to buy, Zaragoza has agreed on his transfer with Valencia, and the defenders can presumably move to Manchester United, but so far this is at the negotiation stage, ten Hag has long spoken about the desire to get De Ligt, but the transfer is still not moving forward. Kompany wants to sell these players in order to be able to get Jonathan Tah from Bayer, and Desire Douai from Rennes.
Kompany really knows that his future at Bayern Munich is not safe and really depends on the achievements he will get this season at Bayern Munich, so I think he will not hesitate to overhaul the Bayern Munich squad by bringing in players who are capable of strengthening Munich in next season, however, to provide space for new players, of course Munich had to release several players who were deemed not to have made a big contribution to the team so far.
Manchester United is reportedly the team that wants to recruit Matthijs De Ligt and Noussair Mazraoui from Munich at the moment after they lost Leny Yoro who was injured, However, it seems that the high price set by Munich for these two players has meant that Manchester United has not made a move at the moment, but what is interesting to me is the case of Bryan Zaragoza, he was brought in by Munich in midlast season but now he will be leaving the Allianz Arena again, doesn't that's tragic?
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Borussia Dortmund use to be very consistent on there Bundesliga then but now a lot of things has changed about them, though Borussia Dortmund is well known in terms of generating a good players because the above listed names are currently doing very well on there current clubs.
Ever since I knew the Bundesliga, Dortmund has always been able to produce great players who go to big teams. In fact, they don't seem to have any intention of winning the league because they always sell their best players. But it seems that Dortmund has become a business-oriented club. As long as they are not bad in the League and have an advantage then they will not be a problem. It seems that supporters are also not too fanatical about the champion.

The Dortmund team has no interest in winning the Bundesliga title. If they wanted to be champions they would have strengthened their squad more. But Dortmund have never spent huge amounts of money to strengthen their squad. Instead, Dortmund sold the best player in their squad and made a huge amount of money. Dortmund sell the best players in the squad almost every year.

If Lewandowski, Bellingham and Haaland were in Dortmund's attack, this team would undoubtedly become one of the strongest squads in the Bundesliga. Dortmund management has found many such talented players. But their main business was to make money by selling players. This is why despite the talent and potential of the Dortmund team, the team cannot dominate the Bundesliga.
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