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Just watched an interesting history of the war for some original, never seen before Japanese footage in colour, (can't remember the name it is on Netflics.)

While you may be somewhat correct, you are looking at it from your cultural perspective; I would suggest you try taking that perspective with some Japanese friends. 

All in all, dropping a Nuke in a sparkly or uninhabited region could have gone a long way in the use as a threat.

As for the dirty DU bombs, there is lots of evidence to suggest the Afghan mountains are littered with the radioactive waste, least of which are the side effects the deformed births and myriad of radiation poisoning related diseases. 

To your last point, history seems to be repeating.   

This is an issue where I take an unusual step (for me) of defending the US.  It was a different time in history, and nuclear weapons were not well understood as evidenced by some of the domestic actions of our nuclear program.  The American/Japanese war in the Pacific was one of histories most brutal and we were understandably war-weary.  Coupled with this, the fact that the Japanese were tenacious and it was difficult to predict their response.  It was also not lost on people that the means that the Japanese employed to control their empire were themselves extra-ordinarily inhumane so there was an understandable attitude of 'they had it coming'.  Lastly, the destruction in both life and property of the atomic bombs were significantly less than the firebombings of Tokyo.

I do wish we had targeted differently.  We had only two weapons to make an impression which was a distinct factor, but I think we could have taken our time and continued to nuke less populated and civilian dominated targets as fissile material became available, and it was a sure thing that we'd be producing such material at as high a rate as possible.

Ultimately I doubt that there was any country who would have deferred on the use of atomic weapons if they were in anything remotely resembling our situation at that time in history.  Least the Japanese themselves.

The main lesson to be learned comes from the Japanese and it is to be ever vigilant against a militant leadership who has aspirations to build and maintain an empire.  They will deliver a bucket of tears to their people eventually.  Always do.  Unfortunately this lesson needs to be re-learned by the masses from time to time, and the US is in the mid-life of such a cycle as I read the tea leaves.

hehe. Since it hasn't occurred yet, let me add that I'm german.




looks good to me. Just: why?

DU is more likely to cause kidney damage than leukemia.
The leukemia epidemic in that area and time frame is more likely related to the carcinogenic
pollution from the burning oil wells in Kuwait (set ablaze by Iraqi troops at Saddam's order).

I don't know, and neither does anyone else.  Medical statistics in stable parts of the world (the US and Europe, for example) are questionable because methodologies change.  In chaotic regions (Iraq qualifies), they are downright unbelievable.  I'm quite prepared to believe that more medical charts have certain checkboxes marked now than they had before, but I'm not willing to make the leap of faith to claiming that the checkbox is accurate, or ever was.

If you are suffering from some delusions about the accuracy of medical statistics, go read about AIDS in Africa, and keep in mind that when there is a scapegoat to blame, there is even more reason to fudge the numbers (intentionally or otherwise).

Is there or is there not a leukaemia epidemic in Iraq that wasn't there 10 years ago?

Do DU weapons cause lightning as a secondary effect? There is still the concern over tectonic activity. Not that I'm stating nuclear weapon use as fact, but questions are compounding the issue.

And as justusranvier offers: hypocrisy abounds.

Meanwhile, the gold-silver ratio is approaching 62. A sustained move below that level will strongly suggest a silver-led rally. For that matter, I'm also expecting USD$1,000+ Bitcoin within a year.

I think some of the embryonic technologies many of us have been following in recent years are about to break out as well; things that will make our gripes of today trivial.

We'll see...

You forgot #3, depleted uranium is less radioactive than the dirt you find it in, and of course, #4, "mass destruction" doesn't mean "reporters don't understand it", it has a specific meaning involving large areas.

DU weapons, by any objective definition of the term, are dirty bombs and as such should be classified as weapons of mass destruction whose use is a war crime. There are two problems with this, however.

Firs,t like all governments, the US government is in no way interested in obeying the rules that it imposes on others. Second, the term "war crime" is misleadingly redundant.

The US of all countries? Nagasaki and Hiroshima ring a bell? No other country has ever dropped a nuke on people except the US.

There is mounting evidence that advanced nuclear weapons have been, and are currently being used in Syria. Tactical strikes with marginal radiation and minor risk of causing earthquakes, as would be a possibility with typical bunker buster weapons.

Good luck in getting that order filled. Here is a rough guide what the mined Silver in the modern world is used for.
There would have to be a significant reduction on demand in some or all of its uses to get to that price.

27% Electrical/Electronics
22.2% Jewellery
11.1% Coins/Bullion
7.7% Photography
5.7% Brazing Alloys
5.7% Solar Panels
5.5% Silverware
3.7% Wood Preservatives
3% Catalysts
2.7% Water Purification
2.5% Batteries  (button-cell, new phones)
.9% Mirrors/Reflective glass
.5% Medical Applications
.4% RF Tags (Radio Frequency)
.3% Bearings (Jet engines)
1% Other (nanotechnology, anti-bacterial......)

jpm has now cornered the market with a 20% long position. They were short before, switched to long bias now.

I have some silver orders to be filled by 2016 at 4-5$ and I am positive...

9 coming up and you'll be rich!

Probably any nation with the organizational ability to develop nuclear weapons would have show 'restraint' if they were in our position.  We never had the ability to take over and police other populations and no great need for resources that could only be had through genocidal acts.  WW-II opened up other ways of achieving a larger share of the pie for us so it would have been stupid to opt for nuclear war (though various people argued for this from time to time.)

I feel that the US was a different nation 80 years ago.  The main reason I feel this way is that so many top scientist immigrated here and helped up develop nuclear weapons, and largely because they seemed to have confidence in our nation as a force of good.  In fairness it needs to be pointed out that the likes of Germany and the USSR were not much competition in this regard.  Anyway, it is hard to imagine anyone immigrating here now for that reason though plenty of people still come here for the money.  As we descend into a totalitarian surveillance state it will be interesting to see how that impacts the quality of our immigrant population.

If they had any sense they would, but perhaps that's too much to expect nowadays

However the US has done one thing, it has shown restraint when it had and has now vast nuclear advantage. I wonder what other countries with such and advantage would show the same restraint

Its a good time for an update...

the silverbox update (comparison from the beginning of this thread, March 13th, 2012, gold=1690, nasdaq=3055, Bitcoin=5.4):
Bitcoin is 107.62.  Gold is 1320.00.  Nasdaq is 3687.00
Bitcoin: 1892.96%
Gold:    -21.89%
Nasdaq:  20.69%
Gold Diff:  2452% advantage Bitcoin
Nasdaq Diff:  1551% advantage Bitcoin
2551.5965207631875

I called bottom at $1200 late Jun-early July ... just for the record, not on this board though but my followers (all 2 of them) know.

We'll see I guess.