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Topic: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. - page 1498. (Read 2032274 times)

legendary
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May 14, 2012, 02:50:54 PM
My forecast based upon my research in precious metals -- keep in mind I've only been learning about precious metals for about 3 months and I did not read through this thread:

1)  Gold short-term outlook = down
2)  Gold mid-term outlook = Huh?
3)  Gold long-term outlook = up

I do not believe the US dollar can sustain itself over time.  Gold will always remain useful for industrial purposes or for jewelry.  It will continue to be a status symbol whether or not it is used to back a currency.  Moreover, if and when the US dollar sees a significant decline in value, I would expect to see a positive correlation between gold and Bitcoin.  

I'm looking to buy a little bit of gold right around $1500, and then more if it hits $1400.
legendary
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May 14, 2012, 02:50:04 PM
it's that time again:

Charge!!!!!!!!!


legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
May 14, 2012, 02:41:30 PM
oh baby, Goldman breaks $100!
legendary
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May 14, 2012, 02:39:52 PM

I personally consider the wallet encryption implementation to be of fairly limited usefulness in a fairly limited number of cases. 

why?

Among the reasons, it requires running the GUI unless I'm mistaken.  That's a non-starter for me.



huh?

the use case is that a user encrypts the wallet immediately after download BEFORE sending any coins to it.  once encrypted, its impossible to crack open even if stolen.
legendary
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May 14, 2012, 02:36:33 PM

I personally consider the wallet encryption implementation to be of fairly limited usefulness in a fairly limited number of cases. 

why?

Among the reasons, it requires running the GUI unless I'm mistaken.  That's a non-starter for me.

legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
May 14, 2012, 02:34:46 PM
So gold bugs' worst nightmare is bitcoin?  Cheesy

hey, you've actually said something useful!  Cheesy

edit:  what's a gold bugs worst nightmare?  BITCOIN! Wink
legendary
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May 14, 2012, 02:31:56 PM
So gold bugs' worst nightmare is bitcoin?  Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
May 14, 2012, 02:22:58 PM

I personally consider the wallet encryption implementation to be of fairly limited usefulness in a fairly limited number of cases. 

why?
legendary
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Merit: 1283
May 14, 2012, 02:13:55 PM

I would take this opportunity to mention that there is an upside to the inconvenience of PM's.  I suggest that allinvain, among others, would still be sitting on his stash if it had been in 'inconvenient' form such as physical gold in his hand rather than a highly mobile form such as Bitcoin.  Same can be said for a lot of MF Global victims.  Spare me the education about how handy Bitcoin is since it would be preaching to the chior.  All I'm saying is that every tool has it's strengths and weaknesses.

ok, i'll avoid the "handy" argument but i will throw out the "dated" argument.

with wallet encryption and backups this point is moot.

I personally consider the wallet encryption implementation to be of fairly limited usefulness in a fairly limited number of cases.  And 'backups' are, if anything, another attack vector for stealing BTC from a victim.  I don't thing that anyone really thinks of the wallet encryption which is part of the standard client to be a solution for anyone but the more primitive end-users.  Certainly not something which would be used by the likes of Bitcoinica.

I am pretty comfortable with the way I've secured my Bitcoin stash.  But it's as or more difficult to get at than my physical PM's.  Even a rubber hose would prove a cumbersome and time consuming way for an attacker to reach my nest egg...or at least the yolk of it.

legendary
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Merit: 1002
May 14, 2012, 02:11:46 PM
lets stay positive:



legendary
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May 14, 2012, 01:58:59 PM

I would take this opportunity to mention that there is an upside to the inconvenience of PM's.  I suggest that allinvain, among others, would still be sitting on his stash if it had been in 'inconvenient' form such as physical gold in his hand rather than a highly mobile form such as Bitcoin.  Same can be said for a lot of MF Global victims.  Spare me the education about how handy Bitcoin is since it would be preaching to the chior.  All I'm saying is that every tool has it's strengths and weaknesses.

ok, i'll avoid the "handy" argument but i will throw out the "dated" argument.

with wallet encryption and backups this point is moot.
legendary
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Merit: 1283
May 14, 2012, 01:31:50 PM
Sound money not being gold?

Gold has a lot of problems. Slow and heavy—vulnerable, expensive...

expensive? do you mean "not divisible enough"?

I mean, gold has a lot of overhead... Costs do go up with divisibility.

Very true.  I obtained some sub-1oz coins a while back for gifts, and more to (set up to) try my idea of using Bitcoin to 'ratchet in' a trade/transfer of bullion across geographic space.  The premium on these is detrimental.

I would take this opportunity to mention that there is an upside to the inconvenience of PM's.  I suggest that allinvain, among others, would still be sitting on his stash if it had been in 'inconvenient' form such as physical gold in his hand rather than a highly mobile form such as Bitcoin.  Same can be said for a lot of MF Global victims.  Spare me the education about how handy Bitcoin is since it would be preaching to the chior.  All I'm saying is that every tool has it's strengths and weaknesses.

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Unrelatedly, I cannot help but make an observation based on one recent poster's icon thingy:

 

This seems to be what has happened to all of the people predicting the popping of the PM bubble over the last decade.  Will the trend continue?  We'll find out I suppose.

legendary
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May 14, 2012, 01:15:49 PM
What you can't see will hurt you.

TF does an excellent job of highlighting what FOFOA, Sinclair, et al. have been saying for years.

The real assets are being snuck out the back while the rest of the world plays in a nominal shell game arena; it's like climbing a skyscraper staircase while the building is falling down.

Guess what the best option is?
legendary
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Drunk Posts
May 14, 2012, 12:53:26 PM
Sound money not being gold?

If we find a truly 'sound money' ,such as BTC Wink , what value would gold have left?

about 0.001 BTC/oz

I'll take 1000 oz please.

Give me 1000000
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
May 14, 2012, 12:48:04 PM
Sound money not being gold?

If we find a truly 'sound money' ,such as BTC Wink , what value would gold have left?

about 0.001 BTC/oz

I'll take 1000 oz please.
donator
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1019
May 14, 2012, 12:44:07 PM
Sound money not being gold?

If we find a truly 'sound money' ,such as BTC Wink , what value would gold have left?

about 0.001 BTC/oz
donator
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1019
May 14, 2012, 12:42:43 PM
Sound money not being gold?

Gold has a lot of problems. Slow and heavy—vulnerable, expensive...

expensive? do you mean "not divisible enough"?
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
May 14, 2012, 12:38:55 PM
Art Cashin:  It’s hard to exercise a “rationality put” if things turn irrational beyond your control.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
May 14, 2012, 12:27:12 PM
Sound money not being gold?

If we find a truly 'sound money' ,such as BTC Wink , what value would gold have left?
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
May 14, 2012, 12:26:40 PM
oh my.

Silver Wheaton revenues miss.  It must be time:

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