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On bitcointalk.org?  Pfffft.

Shhhh, don't be telling it like it is, someone might actually notice.. 

I think that fossil fuel is of equal or lesser importance to the ability to transport energy, and both are largely secondary in importance to money.  India and China have populations which are to large to support with energy-poor agricultural methods at this point, and the situation shows now sign of letting up.  If they were deprived of fossil fuel energy sources, their populations would starve and revolt.  And as long as we in the US have the ability to provoke this outcome, we have tremendous leverage.  Our compliant bitches (Europe, Austrailia, Canada) can tag along if they cough up some resources and manpower when told to.

Controlling the fossil fuel resources of the Middle East creates a situation where we can run enormous trade deficits as long as the situation persists.  I personally can write as many checks as I like as long as I am sure that they will not be cashed, and so can the US.  So, unlike a lot of people, I am of the opinion that deficits do not matter and the logical strategy is to make hay while the sun shines.  Exactly as we are doing.

We are looking at population growth rates which makes starvation (and/or war) inevitable within the foreseeable future.  If we can maintain our position, we might be able to keep our people from starving and steer the high casualty producing conflicts to take place among starving peoples (who will be to weak to even dream of taking us on.)  Maybe we can perpetuate and control the conflicts with just drone strikes from within the safety of our own territory.


Makes me sad as well.  I just don't buy that there is 'no reason', and I think that most people take a much to simplistic view of geopolitics and of money.

And speaking of false flags, I would add that there seems to be decent evidence that Pearl Harbor, while obviously not a 'self-inflicted wound', was

 - a delight to much of our leadership as a way to get into WW-II
 - provoked to a large extent by cutting off Japan's energy and steel
 - got rid of a bunch of useless battleships which were only really good for sucking down fuel oil and manpower post WW-I
 - ended up not harming our carrier fleet which was key in the war which followed.

It is really difficult to get a very weak country to commit suicide by attacking a much stronger one Poland->Germany, Iraq->US, Spain->US, Vietnam->US.  Almost without exception in modern times, wars start either via a false flag or significant mis-calculation (Japan/US, German/USSR.)

My dog then made some of this..

My dog went here:



and learned how to build this!!

Almost every 'normal' person (in America) thinks exactly like you.  It's just inconceivable and thus it just plain didn't happen.  Period.  Germans, for instance, have less difficulty with  the concept of elements within the US doing 9/11 to achieve certain goals, but I doubt that they could be convinced that an event like that in Germany could have anything to do with Germans.  This is human nature.  Your 'way to view the 9/11 event' is completely anticipated and normal.  Mine is abnormal.

There are a lot of whacked out theories about nukes taking down the towers, laser beams from space, Muslims in caves, God hating queers, etc, etc.  There is also a _lot_ of solid analysis and scientific investigation.  Almost without exception, the latter points me toward the conclusion that 9/11 was a false-flag.


We (the US) needed an event that would terrify the entire population for a long period of time.  Some boat snooping around in foreign waters and going boom was not sufficient for the purpose.  Even 9/11 was barely sufficient.  By the time we got around to marching into Iraq, public sentiment was already about 50/50 in terms of support (and our media had most people believing the Saddam ordered 9/11 himself!)

I used to follow my dog around to get all the gold bars... But they get heavy after awhile..  and how many do you really need...

the way that I view the 9/11 event is that it was a stroke of 'pure luck' for the neoconservative movement because then they could now justify a war in the middle east to shore up the remaining oil reserves. Now, maybe there were 'some' in high ranking areas of government that turned a blind eye to what some would call overwhelming evidence, that bin laden was going to strike the towers, because they wanted a war. Whatever the case, the sheer magnitude of the conspiracy theory formulated by many 9/11 truthers is just plain garbage. The US government is god awful, I'll admit that, but it would never opt to kill its own 'civilians' in this manner.

Just think about it. If the US really wanted to start a war, all it had to do was send a ship into Persian Gulf, blow it up, and then blame it on Iraq. That would have been enough for the government to justify the war to the public since Americans seem to love a good war every now and then  

i REALLY don't like this.  see the high volume spike today on a down day which to me indicates distribution.  coupled with the VIX move above.  the $DXY was actually down -0.5% today which should've sparked a much bigger rally in the Dow but didn't.  

AAPL finished marginally down.

even more interesting is my double levered VIX play VXZ was UP 1.01% which over the last month has been a leading indicator.  UST's look to me to be bottoming and if they start rising along with the USD would be indicative of deflation returning.

as silverbox said, gold and silver made an impressive recovery from the early morning when gold was down about $12 before rallying.  i remain unconvinced.

today was triple witching as well which will finish up some trades.  next week should be real exciting.

Don't get my dog all riled up..

If presented with a choice of either having a few Kilopeople die in a quick 'new Pearl Harbor' type event, or having millions of people die over the next few decades as a result of not being able to consume 25% of the worlds production due to loss of control over certain geographical areas and geopolitical structures, it is by no means clear to me that 'doing' 9/11 was a poor decision.  At least in terms of situation management with the well being of the US as a priority.

The evidence that 9/11 was a false flag is, to me, completely overwhelming.  Setting aside moral and ethical consideration of the event and the events which followed (which are, to me, quite appalling), I am not really prepared to cast judgement on the appropriateness of the strategy and probably will not be for several decades.  It depends a bit on how the next step, obtaining control over Iran's oil, plays out.

Gold nice and steady at 1660!!  Not gonna go down much from here.

oh so close.

the VIX had the temerity to spike all the way down to 13.66 which we haven't seen since 6/20/07.  amazing.

i think next week will has the potential to tell the story of the US economy for the next 4 years.

“This is the shit the mayans talked about.” - anonymous

Oh no.

What is not probable is a steel tower exploding into dust without explosives.
And the US government is killing its own people for profit every day. Just look around.

here we go.

No argument there.  I agree that it's probably just BS, but I wanted to point out the flaw in that particular argument against it.

I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy but something as evil as the US government killing its own people for profit is just not probable. You have to realize that most conspiracy theories that are all encompassing and massive in scale are false. Now, smaller and more time consuming conspiracies like the ones that center around the Rothschild family or how some members the world's central banks are trying to create a one world government...yeah, I can buy those

stop shitposting kthx