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legendary
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August 22, 2015, 07:20:16 PM

You were given a chance to explain where these new sidechain altcoins are going to derive their value.

(still waiting)

Ya, Ya.  I'm getting to it.  In the mean time, you should brush up on some of the work the Blockstream guys are doing and why their motto is 'trust everyone'.  They are focused on crypto-based solutions which would allow one to balance risk.  So, instead of giving the bank all of your money (or BTC) which technically and legally becomes their property to do with as they please, there are things like time-locks.  If you take or fail to take certain actions on a certain schedule, the value of your deposit can revert back to your control.  These crypto 'primitives' allow a much more robust cyrpto-currency ecosystem and cut the (unreliable and expensive) state sponsored legal system out of the loop leaning instead on pure mathematics which is much more reliable.


Stop fudging the issue.

 I'm well aware of what blockstream does.  And I also know what it needs before a bank would have any interest in using it. I just want that penny to drop with you, or at least hear your attempt to explain it.


I've never run across an XT shill who is even dimly aware of 'what Blockstream does', or if I are, they have made no attempts to demonstrate this knowledge.  In fact relatively few of said shills seem to have even a modest grasp on Bitcoin itself.  You are no exception.

Nobody I have any respect for wants banks in the common sense of the word to have anything to do with crypto-currencies.  They are obsolete with a properly functioning crypto like Bitcoin.

The primitives which Blockstream are working on would allow a lot more flexibility in distributing value to sidecoins and managing risk in doing so.  Also, by providing robust reference implementations and being available to audit (for a fee I suspect) they provide a very valuable service to end-users (like me) who are trying to judge these risks.

hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
Warning: Confrmed Gavinista
August 22, 2015, 07:09:55 PM

You were given a chance to explain where these new sidechain altcoins are going to derive their value.

(still waiting)

Ya, Ya.  I'm getting to it.  In the mean time, you should brush up on some of the work the Blockstream guys are doing and why their motto is 'trust everyone'.  They are focused on crypto-based solutions which would allow one to balance risk.  So, instead of giving the bank all of your money (or BTC) which technically and legally becomes their property to do with as they please, there are things like time-locks.  If you take or fail to take certain actions on a certain schedule, the value of your deposit can revert back to your control.  These crypto 'primitives' allow a much more robust cyrpto-currency ecosystem and cut the (unreliable and expensive) state sponsored legal system out of the loop leaning instead on pure mathematics which is much more reliable.


Stop fudging the issue.

 I'm well aware of what blockstream does.  And I also know what it needs before a bank would have any interest in using it. I just want that penny to drop with you, or at least hear your attempt to explain it.

legendary
Activity: 4760
Merit: 1283
August 22, 2015, 07:02:39 PM

You were given a chance to explain where these new sidechain altcoins are going to derive their value.

(still waiting)

Ya, Ya.  I'm getting to it.  In the mean time, you should brush up on some of the work the Blockstream guys are doing and why their motto is 'trust everyone'.  They are focused on crypto-based solutions which would allow one to balance risk.  So, instead of giving the bank all of your money (or BTC) which technically and legally becomes their property to do with as they please, there are things like time-locks.  If you take or fail to take certain actions on a certain schedule, the value of your deposit can revert back to your control.  These crypto 'primitives' allow a much more robust cyrpto-currency ecosystem and cut the (unreliable and expensive) state sponsored legal system out of the loop leaning instead on pure mathematics which is much more reliable.

hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
Warning: Confrmed Gavinista
August 22, 2015, 06:40:15 PM

It is unbelievable but true. Idiocy prevails. This stalker thread is still unlocked.

Ah, there you are.  I was going to ask you if there is any truth to this thing which covered Switzerland a little bit:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQIBpGu5I6E

If there is, I am extra glad that my ancestors got the fuck out of there.  

Switzerland is the one and only Direct Democracy. The country can be glad seeing people with your mentality (stalking/hating direct voting/applauding censorship) leaving.


Your leaderships are clearly seeking to hybridize the herd with gene-stock from various far flung regions in addition to converting the native stock into people who are to sexually confused to reproduce on their own.  I can guess the types of policies the populous is going to prefer for the betterment of society through the 'direct democracy' that you are so proud of in the next generation.


You were given a chance to explain where these new sidechain altcoins are going to derive their value.






(still waiting)
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
Warning: Confrmed Gavinista
August 22, 2015, 06:37:44 PM
I miss the doc's mega thread.  it was a convenient catch-all without most of the wall observer micro-minds.  So where to lurk now  Huh

just be thankful you have been unplugged from a matrix of FUD and disinformation ...

replaced with your own brand?

Can't you see the replacement has already surpassed that silly formerly existing thread in terms of intellectual engagement? So much more comprehensive and enlightening without all the FUD.

It's like "Gold collapsing, Bitcoin UP." with forged pistons, an iron block, aggressive cams, fully computer controlled direct fuel injection, AND nitrous oxide injection! Take off your beer hat and look at it, would you just look at it?

I wouldn't look at anything that still has breaks...   Wink
legendary
Activity: 2016
Merit: 1259
August 22, 2015, 06:14:40 PM
I miss the doc's mega thread.  it was a convenient catch-all without most of the wall observer micro-minds.  So where to lurk now  Huh

just be thankful you have been unplugged from a matrix of FUD and disinformation ...

replaced with your own brand?

Can't you see the replacement has already surpassed that silly formerly existing thread in terms of intellectual engagement? So much more comprehensive and enlightening without all the FUD.

It's like "Gold collapsing, Bitcoin UP." with forged pistons, an iron block, aggressive cams, fully computer controlled direct fuel injection, AND nitrous oxide injection! Take off your beer hat and look at it, would you just look at it?

Ahh. There we go.  Just like old times Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 4760
Merit: 1283
August 22, 2015, 02:19:17 PM

It is unbelievable but true. Idiocy prevails. This stalker thread is still unlocked.

Ah, there you are.  I was going to ask you if there is any truth to this thing which covered Switzerland a little bit:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQIBpGu5I6E

If there is, I am extra glad that my ancestors got the fuck out of there.  

Switzerland is the one and only Direct Democracy. The country can be glad seeing people with your mentality (stalking/hating direct voting/applauding censorship) leaving.


Your leaderships are clearly seeking to hybridize the herd with gene-stock from various far flung regions in addition to converting the native stock into people who are to sexually confused to reproduce on their own.  I can guess the types of policies the populous is going to prefer for the betterment of society through the 'direct democracy' that you are so proud of in the next generation.

legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1002
August 22, 2015, 12:39:58 PM
I miss the doc's mega thread.  it was a convenient catch-all without most of the wall observer micro-minds.  So where to lurk now  Huh

just be thankful you have been unplugged from a matrix of FUD and disinformation ...

i suggest tipping the mods too..
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 262
August 22, 2015, 12:16:56 PM
Switzerland is the one and only Direct Democracy.

Your delusions are shared by many people who will soon be culled for it.
legendary
Activity: 1162
Merit: 1004
August 22, 2015, 02:34:05 AM

It is unbelievable but true. Idiocy prevails. This stalker thread is still unlocked.

Ah, there you are.  I was going to ask you if there is any truth to this thing which covered Switzerland a little bit:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQIBpGu5I6E

If there is, I am extra glad that my ancestors got the fuck out of there.  

Switzerland is the one and only Direct Democracy. The country can be glad seeing people with your mentality (stalking/hating direct voting/applauding censorship) leaving.
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
August 22, 2015, 12:54:39 AM
I miss the doc's mega thread.  it was a convenient catch-all without most of the wall observer micro-minds.  So where to lurk now  Huh

just be thankful you have been unplugged from a matrix of FUD and disinformation ...

replaced with your own brand?

Can't you see the replacement has already surpassed that silly formerly existing thread in terms of intellectual engagement? So much more comprehensive and enlightening without all the FUD.

It's like "Gold collapsing, Bitcoin UP." with forged pistons, an iron block, aggressive cams, fully computer controlled direct fuel injection, AND nitrous oxide injection! Take off your beer hat and look at it, would you just look at it?
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
Warning: Confrmed Gavinista
August 22, 2015, 12:44:57 AM
I miss the doc's mega thread.  it was a convenient catch-all without most of the wall observer micro-minds.  So where to lurk now  Huh

just be thankful you have been unplugged from a matrix of FUD and disinformation ...

replaced with your own brand?
legendary
Activity: 3920
Merit: 2349
Eadem mutata resurgo
August 21, 2015, 11:59:00 PM
I miss the doc's mega thread.  it was a convenient catch-all without most of the wall observer micro-minds.  So where to lurk now  Huh

just be thankful you have been unplugged from a matrix of FUD and disinformation ...
hero member
Activity: 715
Merit: 500
August 21, 2015, 10:31:16 PM

Gold holding up nicely.  Cypherdoc MIA like the sorry pussified little no-trust-having sissy that he is.  Frappuccino poisoning I suppose.



Really!  So you're saying that a fixed title thread is wrong today, good lord how can it be.  Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1002
August 21, 2015, 07:05:13 PM

It is unbelievable but true. Idiocy prevails. This stalker thread is still unlocked.

Ah, there you are.  I was going to ask you if there is any truth to this thing which covered Switzerland a little bit:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQIBpGu5I6E

If there is, I am extra glad that my ancestors got the fuck out of there.  I mean we've got plenty of similar problems over here on this side of the pond, but it does seem like you guys are leading the pack.

Bertrand Russel says that in 'scientific societies':

Quote
"Scientific societies are as yet in their infancy. . . . It is to be expected that advances in physiology and psychology will give governments much more control over individual mentality than they now have even in totalitarian countries. Fitche laid it down that education should aim at destroying free will, so that, after pupils have left school, they shall be incapable, throughout the rest of their lives, of thinking or acting otherwise than as their schoolmasters would have wished. . . . Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible. . . .”----Bertrand Russell,1953

Looks like "the sort of character" the leaderships in all Western countries (at least) want would be a society of borederline retarded sexually confused zombie sheep.  Exactly the kind of people who would become Heardresen worshiping XT drones.  Wouldn't you say so?



socialism + progressim (but more like digress actually) = kaboom.

gotta love the well accepted expression "human resources".


hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
Warning: Confrmed Gavinista
August 21, 2015, 06:28:43 PM

Looks like "the sort of character" the leaderships in all Western countries (at least) want would be a society of borederline retarded sexually confused zombie sheep.  Exactly the kind of people who would become Heardresen worshiping XT drones.  Wouldn't you say so?


How many people you stalking?

Anyway, got an answer for this yet?
legendary
Activity: 4760
Merit: 1283
August 21, 2015, 06:07:27 PM

Gold holding up nicely.  Cypherdoc MIA like the sorry pussified little no-trust-having sissy that he is.  Frappuccino poisoning I suppose.

legendary
Activity: 4760
Merit: 1283
August 21, 2015, 05:17:07 PM

It is unbelievable but true. Idiocy prevails. This stalker thread is still unlocked.

Ah, there you are.  I was going to ask you if there is any truth to this thing which covered Switzerland a little bit:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQIBpGu5I6E

If there is, I am extra glad that my ancestors got the fuck out of there.  I mean we've got plenty of similar problems over here on this side of the pond, but it does seem like you guys are leading the pack.

Bertrand Russel says that in 'scientific societies':

Quote
"Scientific societies are as yet in their infancy. . . . It is to be expected that advances in physiology and psychology will give governments much more control over individual mentality than they now have even in totalitarian countries. Fitche laid it down that education should aim at destroying free will, so that, after pupils have left school, they shall be incapable, throughout the rest of their lives, of thinking or acting otherwise than as their schoolmasters would have wished. . . . Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible. . . .”----Bertrand Russell,1953

Looks like "the sort of character" the leaderships in all Western countries (at least) want would be a society of borederline retarded sexually confused zombie sheep.  Exactly the kind of people who would become Heardresen worshiping XT drones.  Wouldn't you say so?

sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 262
August 21, 2015, 04:54:01 PM
And yet new threads that may be both NARROW in scope and ON topic, but completely REDUNDANT, INNANE, and ZERO LASTING DISCUSSION VALUE because they essentially ask the SAME QUESTION OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, are allowed be created daily over and over and over again for YEARS, and live on forever with no removal, culling or censorship whatsover.

You are describing mega threads. BadBear is spot on with his logic on why to ban them unless they are focused on specific topic, e.g. "Economic Totalitarianism" and "Economic Devastation". When grown men can't contain their addictions and it is dragging the diversity and rebirth of the forum down into a blackhole of addiction, then the appropriate action is to force a rebirth. If you guys try again to congregate into the same groupthink morass, then the same needs to be done again. Even CoinCube and I don't post every 5 seconds in the Economic Devastation thread. You were trying to subsume the forum into your own groupthink thread. You even stated that others who have threads with less frequent bumps were to be ignored and were of worthless value (you all actually said that to me!).

You guys want some feeling of exclusivity and power. You want to feel you've joined some tribe that is superior to the other tribes. But it ends up as a circle jerk addiction and bumped every 5 seconds thus sucking more people into the groupthink morass. It is a metastasizing inertia of groupthink addiction "bitcointalk fix". Whereas you see I even destroyed my AnonyMint username. I didn't sell it. I shut down that inertia and started anew. Life requires death. Life requires diversity. Addiction is death.

That is because you are not capable of being an individual.

You are still stuck in your "primitive, post-paleozoic, hunter-gatherer" evolutionary instinct which shuts down your "rational thought in the pre-frontal cortex".

http://unheresy.com/Information%20Is%20Alive.html#Existential_Fear

and just what is off topic in a thread that's lasted 4 years and has 1.45M views and 31K posts?  for the several days right before it got locked it was racking up about 7000 views per day.  that's how popular it was.  but that's the pt isn't it?  stop the popularity before it gets out of hand.

Yeah you proved you could stir up the worst trait in men: their ego (Bitcointalk "fix") addiction to circle jerking argument festivals where productivity falls into a black hole and no on the outside dares read lest they fall into the same pit.

Luckily I had the self-discipline to just tune out. Well I haven't watched TV for decades, don't drink alcohol, don't even eat carbohydrates, nor drink anything other than water. So I guess it must require a supernatural self-discipline to avoid your spell.

I feel pity for those here who continue wasting their time posting here. Don't these people have anything productive to do with their lives!

What a crying shame.

If the thread died with my post, that would be an amazing feat of humanity. I would be flabbergast. It won't.

legendary
Activity: 2016
Merit: 1259
August 21, 2015, 03:25:19 PM
I miss the doc's mega thread.  it was a convenient catch-all without most of the wall observer micro-minds.  So where to lurk now  Huh
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