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Topic: GOP - Rand Paul's Presidential Highlight Reel w/ his Libertarian Twist - page 100. (Read 205830 times)

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Useless speculation from way-too-early data (and they included Christie? Really??):

Aren’t these polls usually anything but useless speculation?

Rand isn't going to win anything and I had no idea Jeb Bush was running. I've got a feeling Hilary will get in next term. We've had the first black President now it'll be time for the first female one. Wake me up when there's a gay atheist who isn't a multi-millionaire in the running.
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Anyone who believes it matters which pre-selected actor becomes POTUS is a fool.
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I would like to see Christie vs Clinton.  While RCP still has Clinton in the lead, I think Christie would win.   

Christie is not an ideal candidate for the GOP. I would prefer Rand Paul over Chris Christie anytime. But still, it is almost impossible for a GOP candidate to win the elections, given the demographic changes within the general population.
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Useless speculation from way-too-early data (and they included Christie? Really??): Assuming there is no Cruz and Cruz goes mostly to Paul and Ryan (instead of Perry and Bush), Paul and Ryan cannot both compete and win unless both Bush and one other in "that subfaction" (Perry, Huckabee, or Santorum) also run, though Bush would still likely win unless Rubio endorsed either Paul or Ryan, where it'd become a pretty level playing field.

You can count Huckabee, Perry, and Santorum as Bush, while Cruz(?) and Rubio can be counted as either Ryan or Paul. Wildcards are made up of Christie and Walker. Most likely, the "tea party" subfaction will be split up while the "establishment" subfaction will only consist of the most likely victor (Bush or Huckabee). During play-out, I imagine the vast majority of money will back Bush for a lack of known stances nation-wide and that ability to be "convictionally flexible" while fundraising.

I'll go ahead and make my prediction now just for the sake of being able to look back and laugh:
(establishment) Bush - 33%
(compromise) Cruz - 28%
(radical) Paul - 16%
(weird old uncle) Unknown guy like Herman Cain who pops up out of nowhere next year - 14%
Stragglers: 9%

Dem side has a lot of unknowns. Very weak candidates. I don't know half the people listed, though I think Warren would be a smart choice for them, which is why I doubt she'll be in the primary. Booker T Washington has 3%?? Tongue I doubt Hillary could run.

I'll crystal-ball for them, too:
(compromise) Cuomo - 39%
(establishment) Unknown person who pops out of the woodworks - 20%
Stragglers: 17%
(weird old uncle) Biden - 14%
(radical) Other unknown person - 10%


Unimaginable to have a Dem next term, but with an opponent like Bush, very possible. ETA: Dem establishment candidate may be Rahm Emanuel who's "endorsed" Clinton.
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Guys, this is really amazing... unbelievable!

Rand Paul Tops Hillary Clinton in 2016 Presidential Poll

http://news92fm.com/437161/rand-paul-tops-hillary-clinton-in-2016-presidential-poll/

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Dartmouth College reports Paul beats Hillary Rodham Clinton with a slim, two-point lead among likely New Hampshire voters, 38-36. Meanwhile, a host of other Republican hopefuls trail the former Secretary of State and First Lady.

Clinton is a pretty clear winner in that race nationwide.  

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_paul_vs_clinton-3825.html

I would like to see Christie vs Clinton.  While RCP still has Clinton in the lead, I think Christie would win.   

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Guys, this is really amazing... unbelievable!

Rand Paul Tops Hillary Clinton in 2016 Presidential Poll

http://news92fm.com/437161/rand-paul-tops-hillary-clinton-in-2016-presidential-poll/

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Dartmouth College reports Paul beats Hillary Rodham Clinton with a slim, two-point lead among likely New Hampshire voters, 38-36. Meanwhile, a host of other Republican hopefuls trail the former Secretary of State and First Lady.
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^^^ So it is almost certain that Billary will become the next POTUS? It will be a disaster, for both the US citizens and people from other countries. I still remember her adventures from Bosnia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I23fjRN-PGc
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Meanwhile, on the other side of the fence, there's simply no real competition for the nomination, as Clinton gets 66%, with the nearest competition being Biden at 11%.

11% - Biden
3% - Booker
66% - Clinton
3% - Cuomo
1% - Gillibrand
2% - O'Malley
1% - Schweitzer
0% - Warner
5% - Warren
Someone else/undecided - 7%.

If you take Clinton out of the picture, Biden takes the lead with 37% and other/undecided jumps to 27%

Remove both Clinton and Biden and it becomes a tie between Warren and Cuomo with 19% each and 37% other/undecided.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2014/PPP_Release_National_314.pdf
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politics is about fundraising.. it's about who can stroke billionaire cocks. ie: rupert murdoch, koch brothers, soros, shelden adelson.
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There is very little chance of Rand Paul winning the race. Even if he is ahead, the other "mainstream" Republicans such as Bush and Huckabee would gang-up together to defeat him.
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BASED ON 287 RESPONDENTS WHO DESCRIBE THEMSELVES AS REPUBLICANS AND 186
WHO DESCRIBE THEMSELVES AS INDEPENDENTS WHO LEAN REPUBLICAN, FOR A
TOTAL OF 473 REPUBLICANS -- SAMPLING ERROR: +/- 4.5 PERCENTAGE PTS.

May 2-4 2014

Bush 13%
Paul 13%
Ryan 12%
Huckabee 10%
Christie 9%
Perry 8%
Cruz 7%
Walker 7%
Rubio 6%
Santorum 2%
Someone else (vol.) 4%
None/No one (vol.) 4%
No opinion 7%

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/05/06/cnn-2016-poll-bush-and-paul-tied-for-top-spot-in-crowded-gop-field/
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2014/images/05/06/rel5d.pdf
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