Topic: GOP - Rand Paul's Presidential Highlight Reel w/ his Libertarian Twist - page 94. (Read 205816 times)

There is no Libertarian take-over. There are a few Libertarians within the GOP, such as Rand Paul. But the vast majority of the supporters, as well as the politicians remains pro-establishment.

Dude!  You already spammed this very thread with almost exactly the same tripe.  Clear your copy/paste buffer occasionally will ya?

I support the 'libertarian takeover' of the Republican party, since we are teaching them about limited Gov't.

guess you aren't even hiding the fact that you're a republican?

Then we really are in big trouble. 

I don't either. I do not believe there is a Republican in the bunch that will actually run that can beat Hillary.

I don't think Scott Walker is running.

Scott Walker or Dems keep the presidency.

It will take a strong fiscal conservative to save our country from it's impending economic demise and eventual financial neutering. We need what we used to have that enabled us to prosper and made us attractive to those coming from other countries: a frontiersman's strength to do whatever it takes to succeed and a culture of limitless opportunity based on your own initiative. No one came here poor thinking they were entitled to the possessions someone else had

He can win but it would have to be an overwhelming win to overcome the fraud. GW Bush managed to do it twice so maybe there is hope.

I'm aware of vote fraud, but....
If the "least possible evil" always looses, then how/why did Rand get his votes counted in the Senate primary when he went from underdog to win over a "pre-approved" candidate? 

No great mystery to me.  Roberts is first and foremost a corporatist.  'Obamacare' is a total gift to the health care industry.  It did zilch to bring costs down for people who actually pay for service.  The industry may have taken a small hit by treating more people, but the tradeoff is to keep the same old game and huge profits going for another decade or two before complete implosion.

When Obama couldn't even get the public option (much less single payer) going and gave it away without a fight I knew he was a huckster (fairly clear already by that time.)

Most corprotists (e.g., most Dems and Repubs) know what's going on so the 'Obamacare' sham is not and never was in any danger.  Of course the Repubs are going to milk the false issue for political advantage, but they'd be rushing to the Obamacare's defense if a real solution seemed like it might get traction.  Same deal with Abortion.  It's the gift that keeps on giving for the reactionaries.  No way they would let that well producing cow die by actually letting Roe V. Wade or whatever be reversed.

yeah i thought he was a pussy too, but i can't really defend the guy anymore. he's done the opposite of what he promised - transparency. made he had to concede a lot of shit when he got the obama care to pass. roberts was the tiebreaker in the supreme court too. it is extremely unusual that a a republican supreme court justice would vote with the democrats, especially when ti's 5 republicans and 4 democrats. he must have been offered something really savory.

Cheney and Obama are very much in agreement about the desirability of very high degrees of power being bestowed to the executive branch.  Near absolute in areas where it actually matters much.

The big difference is that Cheney was totally up-front about where he stood on the issue.  Obama is the opposite.  He spouted reasonably eloquent nonsense about the dangers of such a thing and promises that his administration would fight against it.  When the rubber met the road he did the exact opposite of what he claimed to be for and was even worse than Cheney in a lot of respects.

Cheney is as close to pure evil as anyone of significance than I can think of in recent times (in terms of political leadership) but I have an odd respect for the guy's honesty.  Obama is nothing more then a sorry lying sack of shit in my book.  For a few year I thought he was just a pussy but by this time I believe he knows exactly what he's doing and he's doing what he believes in.

i feel the same about obama.. it seems he wants government to have near unlimited power. but that doesn't make republicans our champions.. they say way more crazy shit, and i'm sure they'd do similar shit if they held office.

I agree pipeline security is a giant factor in Middle East Politics
The Pipeline from Iran to the Gulf Strait was considered seriously important a few years back before the wars
Good old Yergin revealed this clearly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioazMpe1SHE

Absolutely true.  A sober analysis leads one to conclude that the Obama administration has exceeded the achievements of the Cheney admin in damaging the fabric of our nation and it has accelerated our march toward fascism.  It could be argued that they achieved this by being handed a running start, but at the end of the day it was indeed how they played their hand.  It is a perfectly fair argument that Cheney was handed a running start in a lot of ways from B. Clinton, and that is particularly true of the very important financial sector influence.  Both administrations were prototypical Democrat and Republican respectively (which at this point is the same as saying that neither admin mapped to either Liberal/Progressive or Conservative/Reactionary.)

I generally prefer the social policies of the Democrats so the 'lesser of two evils' argument does hold some water, but only a fairly small amount.  Rand Paul being flown to Israel for his duties by the bankroll of the Christian Right is hardly what I would consider a promising endorsement.  Even if he talked smack about them, a more appropriate response would have been to throw his plane ticket into the round file if he really feels as he claims to feel about supporting the Israeli's projects with my tax dollars.

see, i hate this bullshit. just because someone thinks the GOP is crazy does not mean you are an obama nuthugger. the GOP says way more crazy shit than the democrats, but that doesn't mean i am one. it could be reciprocated that you are a conservative/republican.

Another true believer. Enjoy the yes we can rallies and broken promises. 

probably because rand sees an opportunity for appeal to sanity.. because, you know, his party is so batshit crazy. he's the next chris christie - say what people actually want to hear, but do otherwise.