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Topic: GOP - Rand Paul's Presidential Highlight Reel w/ his Libertarian Twist - page 97. (Read 205830 times)

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lol... Paul definitely knows how to remain in the media spotlight.  Grin

Rand Paul: Trade Hillary Clinton To The Taliban, Not Guantanamo Detainees

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/06/rand-paul-taliban_n_5462065.html

I think you would see our politicians make smarter moves if it was their skin in the game. Rand is becoming a bit of a firebrand.
legendary
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lol... Paul definitely knows how to remain in the media spotlight.  Grin

Rand Paul: Trade Hillary Clinton To The Taliban, Not Guantanamo Detainees

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/06/rand-paul-taliban_n_5462065.html
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I would like to see Christie vs Clinton.  While RCP still has Clinton in the lead, I think Christie would win.  

Christie is not an ideal candidate for the GOP. I would prefer Rand Paul over Chris Christie anytime. But still, it is almost impossible for a GOP candidate to win the elections, given the demographic changes within the general population.

One look at Jersey's gun laws precludes Christie for me...

that's it? what about the other shit he's done, like bridgegate? or pandering to people just to become popular? he's a fake like practically every other politician, it's just that he was pretty good at hiding it.. at least until recently.

There's all that too, but I always start with the 2nd Amendment when it comes to politicians.  I can rule out most of them with that alone, and if they pass, they get a closer look.

I'm basically a single issue voter - less government.  Christie fails.

if you think gun rights issues = #1 concern in america today, then i don't really know what else to say.

Well, without the 2nd you lose the rest.  If that isn't important to you than I guess I don't have much else to say to you either, except perhaps to read a history book and you will find that tyranny commonly starts with disarmament.
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I would like to see Christie vs Clinton.  While RCP still has Clinton in the lead, I think Christie would win.  

Christie is not an ideal candidate for the GOP. I would prefer Rand Paul over Chris Christie anytime. But still, it is almost impossible for a GOP candidate to win the elections, given the demographic changes within the general population.

One look at Jersey's gun laws precludes Christie for me...

that's it? what about the other shit he's done, like bridgegate? or pandering to people just to become popular? he's a fake like practically every other politician, it's just that he was pretty good at hiding it.. at least until recently.

There's all that too, but I always start with the 2nd Amendment when it comes to politicians.  I can rule out most of them with that alone, and if they pass, they get a closer look.

I'm basically a single issue voter - less government.  Christie fails.

if you think gun rights issues = #1 concern in america today, then i don't really know what else to say.
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I would like to see Christie vs Clinton.  While RCP still has Clinton in the lead, I think Christie would win.  

Christie is not an ideal candidate for the GOP. I would prefer Rand Paul over Chris Christie anytime. But still, it is almost impossible for a GOP candidate to win the elections, given the demographic changes within the general population.

One look at Jersey's gun laws precludes Christie for me...

that's it? what about the other shit he's done, like bridgegate? or pandering to people just to become popular? he's a fake like practically every other politician, it's just that he was pretty good at hiding it.. at least until recently.

There's all that too, but I always start with the 2nd Amendment when it comes to politicians.  I can rule out most of them with that alone, and if they pass, they get a closer look.

I'm basically a single issue voter - less government.  Christie fails.
sr. member
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I would like to see Christie vs Clinton.  While RCP still has Clinton in the lead, I think Christie would win.  

Christie is not an ideal candidate for the GOP. I would prefer Rand Paul over Chris Christie anytime. But still, it is almost impossible for a GOP candidate to win the elections, given the demographic changes within the general population.

One look at Jersey's gun laws precludes Christie for me...

that's it? what about the other shit he's done, like bridgegate? or pandering to people just to become popular? he's a fake like practically every other politician, it's just that he was pretty good at hiding it.. at least until recently.
full member
Activity: 223
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I would like to see Christie vs Clinton.  While RCP still has Clinton in the lead, I think Christie would win.   

Christie is not an ideal candidate for the GOP. I would prefer Rand Paul over Chris Christie anytime. But still, it is almost impossible for a GOP candidate to win the elections, given the demographic changes within the general population.

One look at Jersey's gun laws precludes Christie for me...
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Looks like I'll be voting Libertarian.   Tongue
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^^^ Gerrymandering is used by both the main parties (Democrats and the Republicans), to increase their seat count. So no one can just blame any one party for it. Both the parties are responsible.

both are responsible, but one party is much, much more successful at it. they can take more seats with significantly less votes.
legendary
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"Gerrymandering" is a false flag to cover for the Stalin-approved crime of literally not counting enough of the actual votes for the least possible evil, to ensure the worst possible evil wins every election that matters.

owning the media also makes this easier
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"Gerrymandering" is a false flag to cover for the Stalin-approved crime of literally not counting enough of the actual votes for the least possible evil, to ensure the worst possible evil wins every election that matters.
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^^^ Gerrymandering is used by both the main parties (Democrats and the Republicans), to increase their seat count. So no one can just blame any one party for it. Both the parties are responsible.

obviously, or else the side not participating would be out of the game. but beetcoin's thesis was that republicans are more effective at gerrymandering.

not that it matters.
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^^^ Gerrymandering is used by both the main parties (Democrats and the Republicans), to increase their seat count. So no one can just blame any one party for it. Both the parties are responsible.
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it's actually just the areas where republicans are contesting. they are known for playing a dirtier/smarter game than the democrats, who act like pussies compared to them.

Are you smoking weed / shrooms right now? The vote rigging mostly happens in the inner city areas, where the Democrats get close to 100% of the votes. There are plenty of examples.

not that it matters, but data analysis from one individual (Sam Wang, a neuroscientist from Princeton) suggests otherwise
http://election.princeton.edu/2012/12/30/gerrymanders-part-1-busting-the-both-sides-do-it-myth/

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There are some simple lessons to take away from this.

Republican-controlled redistricting led to a swing in margin of at least* 26 seats, almost as large as the 31-seat majority of the new Congress. Those actions created a new power reality in the House – or more accurately, retained the old power reality.
In the states listed above, the net effect of both parties’ redistricting combined was R+11.5 seats. Putting all of this redistricting into nonpartisan commissions would lead to a swing of at least 23 seats. The resulting seat count would be 213 D, 222 R or even closer. It is possible that in the absence of partisan gerrymandering, control would have been within reach for the Democrats.

I do not know of the slant of the academic at hand (he does a pretty good job of sounding neutral), though many in academia have leftist slants, in that academia often depends on public funding for research.

edit: definitely leftist, lists Satan/Krugman in a "blogroll" reading list on the left of his website Tongue




edit 2: bryant.coleman, your claim is supported with at least Illinois's data
legendary
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it's actually just the areas where republicans are contesting. they are known for playing a dirtier/smarter game than the democrats, who act like pussies compared to them.

Are you smoking weed / shrooms right now? The vote rigging mostly happens in the inner city areas, where the Democrats get close to 100% of the votes. There are plenty of examples.
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You mean like the 100% turnout in heavily democratic Philadelphia precincts in 2012? Really proud day for my state right there. Huh

Lol... the inner city areas in most of the American cities are famous for bogus voting and vote rigging. Remember the United States Senate election in Minnesota, 2008 (Norm Coleman vs Al Franken). It was epic.  Grin

it's actually just the areas where republicans are contesting. they are known for playing a dirtier/smarter game than the democrats, who act like pussies compared to them.
legendary
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You mean like the 100% turnout in heavily democratic Philadelphia precincts in 2012? Really proud day for my state right there. Huh

Lol... the inner city areas in most of the American cities are famous for bogus voting and vote rigging. Remember the United States Senate election in Minnesota, 2008 (Norm Coleman vs Al Franken). It was epic.  Grin
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well the issue is that it's so pronounced that america, more than any other country, has tied money with politics. it's ridiculous how much money is spent on the campaign trails. in order for a 3 party system to work, the point of singularity needs to hit.. but they'd need billions of dollars "invested."

I don't think that the injection of any amount of money can change the system. Right now, the major parties are backed up by the powerful demographic blocks. For example, the Democrats enjoy wide-spread support from the minorities (one-third of the population), while the GOP is backed by the religious right (another 1/3rd of the population). There is simply not enough space for a third party.

congress have an approval rating of something like 9%.. it is obvious that most people feel like the parties do not speak for them, and there are plenty of people who want a third party.. it's just that they don't have enough money to buy influence for one.
It is obvious that most people feel like some abstract "The Man" doesn't speak for them, but oddly enough, there is no congressman with a <9% approval rating. They're often in the high 40s or 50s, often 60-85% for established candidates. If you average them all, you probably get something like a 45-60% approval rating. People are either stupid or ignorant. The only other explanation I can think of is that the US is way, way too large to be effectively governed and really needs to be sectioned off, where what's now the USG acts more like the EU (which a good many Europeans will even tell you is too much government for too much diversity). Of course, we fought a civil war over that, so the chance of the federal USG ever taking a step back and letting people be governed with laws they apparently approve of 45-60% as opposed to 9% is around 0%.

What shows that politicians don't speak for the people is the very low voter turnout in the US in years when only voting for Congressmen rather than the $x billion "political Superbowl" in presidential-voting years (~37-42% in 2010, though it's usually only ~50% in pres. years), which can arguably be seen as a "none of the above" option, which the various US governments have been very active in trying to prevent, perhaps out of worry the US may look anti-American (undemocratic). I don't buy the apathy argument. Maybe people are apathetic toward voting, but that doesn't necessarily indicate apathy toward government or society.

(I don't have the bandwidth to view the Rand backpeddling video - don't mean to ignore it)

well, maniacal people are the ones who rule the world.. and those are the ones who know how to work gullible people. that would explain the disparity. a nice smile and a expensive suit can go a long way into convincing people to do almost anything.
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You know Rand Paul leads in the race when its a non-election year
That said who knows if an event is triggered like another Fiscal Cliff and a viable alternative appears
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only in this world do we have a pompous enough of a press to call the winners before elections even happen
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