Topic: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread - page 227. (Read 597505 times)

Sorry guys leaving this community/project because of the behaviour of the lead developer on the cryptocointalk forums. He seems to be in a habit of stifling free speech when members of the community face problems and post them. He inexplicably kept deleting my posts when asking other members for help, others like thbj0011 too have faced the same problem in the past I am told. Anyways don't want to go into much detail or it would fill up this thread and create a nuisance for you guys (which is certainly something I would not want).

If you guys wish to know more about the reason I am leaving you can pm me or even ask members like traderman,GRDMINER,etc from those forums. Been trying to resolve this problem since the past few days to no avail as all my posts and attempts to resolve the problem were constantly deleted by Rob H on cryptocointalk forums.I suppose this one would meet the same fate too.

Again a BIG THANK YOU TO WHO WERE SUPPORTIVE here whenever I faced problems. Thanks for all the help provided.

PS: Andrew sorry bro will not be able to help you here with your problems about the card ,, but feel free to pm me will try to help you as much as I can :-). Otherwise I am sure there are members like traderman, GRDMINER ,who have been very helpful, will most certainly help you .

Sucks to be leaving after having invested in the card. But sometimes self respect and standing up for the right thing is more important.

Good luck to all of you, wish you guys the best.

Hi again,
Np at all, sorry could not reply sooner because of Rob H.'s mysteriously inexplicable behaviour on the cryptocointalk thread. Anyways thats another story. Coming to your problems.

Yes HW errors are the HW in thecgminer towards the upper somewhat right. It should show a number close to 0 (I prefer 0 as the goal when mining). Is that 0 ? If it isn't then something is wrong with your set up.

About showing up as "invalid". I am not sure what you mean. Could you post a screenshot perhaps ? AFAIK there is no stat of it being "invalid" .. maybe you mean "stale" perhaps ?

Long story short if you are getting errors then try decreasing the intensity at which you are running cgminer. Also check thread concurrency. Depending on your card it varies. Google it up for your card or let me know the model of your card so I can help you out. It doesnt take much time.

All the best and feel free to ask if your still stuck (/even otherwise :-)).

Don't pay attention to that, it is not accurate figure. It's just some crap cgminer displays for some reason.

The 200K is the minimum size needed for the next block solved.  You may see your miner submit a share that is less than this and it will be rejected.

Yea the difficulty your mining software uses is usually different than the difficulty you see on your Gridcoin client/explorer. And gratz on the 290x! I'm about to buy 3 290's once they go in stock at this one site (only $420 per!) to use in my main computer I'm remaking Trying to customize the case and everything haha

Loving the 290X. With my nVidia card it took 2 months to trickle in 2000 coins.
Today alone cgminer has pulled in 470. Woot!

My cgminer reports diffs over 200K. Is this different than the difficulty the block explorer is providing? Since that's around 3 it's quite a leap

I'm used to cudaminers minimal info so this is new.

Get "msi afterburner" you will be able to see temp and fan statistics for all GPU and you can set them on each GPU separately. If you are getting hardware error means the guiminer setting are wrong. what gpu are you running?

Also get guiminer scrypt. It is the easiest way to manage several gpus.

Hi!
Thanks for the quick reply.

The CPU Mining payouts have not yet been enabled so I have no clue..but from what Rob written above, the max payout per cpu miner per day is 150GRC if the miner has enough BOINC credits.

HW errors that's the HW in CG miner right? I'm basically only getting those..they also show up as "invalid" in the internal CG Miner Statistics.
Does that mean that the mining setup I used for the GPUs is wrong?

Also I have more GPUs in the rig however only one can be seen and set/overclocked in the AMD Catalyst, the CG Miner sees both of them but if I try mining with the second one it is very slow and shuts down almost immediately. What am I doing wrong or didn't do?

Regards,
Andrew.

Hi Andrew, great to have you back!


Regarding the integrated cgminer api, try launching everything then click "Show" next to the instance so you can see whats going on in cgminer.
If you are getting invalids, its probably due to a bad thread concurrency combination for your card.
Try running in guiminer and tweak it to get it working, then save all the settings, then replicate those into gridcoin.
The no suitable longpoll is normal since we are talking through the loopback port.

Good luck,
Grid

invalid or stale? show a screenshot so we can see.

Hi Andrew,

The no suitable long-poll is normal .don't worry about it. Just make sure HW errors is 0 for all your cards. Also difficulty has risen to almost 5 now at this time. You will need a nice rig. BTW i wanted to ask what is the average daily payout from cpu mining for the time you have been mining ?

Hi Rob!

I've been away so I haven't been responding to the forums however I can see that you have been busy and managed to do a ton of work!!!
I greatly appreciate all what you are doing and wish you and everyone here all the best in the new year!!(I'm 2 weeks late I know:))

Great stuff regarding the CPU Mining!
For everyone interested here is the CPU Mining Tutorial https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/1922-cpu-mining-tutorialtopic/

I'm CPU Mining, testing everything out and will report back. At this moment I'm waiting for the beacon to be sent out.
Regarding the payments..once everything is sorted out and enabled will the "outstanding owed amount" be paid or the cpu pool will start again?


Regarding GPU Mining:
I have finally managed to get my hands on a rig for Gridcoin, everything is set up and installed however I do have one issue.
I'm using the internal CG Miner, the instances are added as they should be, the gridcoin.conf has the "rpcallowip=127.0.0.1", "rpcport=9332", the user name, password etc.
The mining starts, CG Miner Statistics show the hash rate etc...however I only receive "Invalid" shares and if I show the CG Miner there's a line that says"no suitable long-poll found for http://127.0.0.1:9332"
and the difficulty is 264k(the difficulty showing in CG Miner I think shouldn't be a problem, right?)

Any help is greatly appreciated,
All the best,
Andrew.

thx for the reply...i've some more questions:

1)how can i find how much time i will get paymest from the pool after i find a block if i stop mining in the pool right after i find my first block? and, in that days, i've always get in total 150gridcoin if i use 100%boinc cpu and have >1000 boinc avg daily credits?

2)this payments are every 24 hours? 12? or what?

3)Grand Total Payments that i read at the botton of listminers is the total gridcoin given for the last block found?

4)when you say that "Right now you receive 30+ payments per day"...what does it mean? that i receive 30gridcoin for everyday i stay in the pool after i found my first block? and...this 30grc are not the same that i ear from my shares in the pool??

I'm sorry...so more questions: but diff is gonna get so high for me

Yes you got it right, you can first find a block, then either continue in the pool forever and get a payment any time another pool miner finds a block, or you can quit poolmining and receive payments for the dynamic lookback window (like u said 4 days etc).



Block Hour and Wallet Hour are reserved for when we get higher difficulty and want to move to daily payments; then we can pay you inside your wallet hour once per day.  Right now you receive 30+ payments per day.


Good luck,Grid

if i write listminers rightnow it seem there is 32 miners in the pool. It's seem, also, that the total pyaments is 135.665121. I think that values is associated at the last block found by the pool. There is also a lot of other stats, for example:
"Block Hour" : 20,
"Wallet Hour" : 6,
"Current Hour" : 19
what does that means?? Devs, can you help us?

If i understood right you example, i can mine in pool and wait until i find a block. After that, i can stop mining in pool and for the next 4 days i can mine in solo and get in the worst case 150gridcoin (gained by the pool). Is it that right?

Beta test version available for testing phase I of CPU-Only-boinc mining:

 (CPU Mining Progress):
1.1.5.3/7.6/64, Upgrade from the RPC: Yes   
    Note: Due to a family emergency this version is only available as an "Upgrade" from the rpc

 
* Note: This release is stable but is designed as a beta release for pre-testing cpu-mining, but I need a few extra beta testers
 for this version
 as it is critical we get this right as to not disrupt the current pool mining system.

* Scrypt Sleep Display added to the mining console.  This is for informational purposes only to prepare for the future.
The display shows your leaderboard position; the block suffix; the network sleep level and your current block status.

At this time, the API command is not sent.

* Mining Console dynamic shrink improved for small monitors


* The leaderboard has been improved to never be erased between refreshes so the mission critical code can rely on the sleep indicator.
Note: If a condition ever arises where the sleep level cannot be determined, or the leaderboard is missing the code will assume
it should hash and continue to hash.

* CPUMining:  Aysyr, can you please help test this out?  Id also like to invite a couple more people familiar with pool mining
and cpu mining to help us test this version.
Ensure poolmining=true is set and cpumining=true is set in the config.
Follow the instructions Andrew P set up in the cpu mining thread on cryptocointalk in order to set up CPUMining by adding your
boinc userids into the projects screen and verifying the setup.
Verify at least one project (in Projects) has a positive confirmed credits value (to the right of the text box) when you press Query.
If you are not familiar with the beacons, wait about 20 mins and a .05grc beacon will be sent out of gridcoin as a transaction
to the official project GRC address. 
Once this is done, do a "listcpuminers".
The second section of this report is "v1.1".  In that section, your grc address will appear.
Verify the total confirmed credits equal the API credits from the Query in the earlier step.
We now have pool #2 (separate from the GPU pool miners pool #1)
 calculating boinc credits based on the total sum of the cpu mining pool divided
by each cpu miners actual avg credits.  This means when we exceed the maximum pool payout level for Pool #2, (ie after
we reach 576 cpu miners), our cpu miners
will have to compete to keep receiving 150 grc per day (very positive!).
 

Next, the pool will automatically calculate the outstanding owed amount, even if partial payments have been made.
For example, if you are owed 150grc in pool2 (for one day of cpu mining), and paid 50grc @ 10AM,
listcpuminers will reflect an outstanding owed amount of 100grc @ 10:01.
Please see the new fields.


For safety reasons in rolling this new feature out, this version only pays .02GRC per cpu miner per payment.
 
Also, we are temporarily requiring the cpu mining feature to be tested on GPUs that are Pool Mining (hence the reason up above I ask
to please enable both pool mining and cpumining modes to test this feature)
 as standard solo miners are going to ignore the cpu miners until we roll out the
next phase.
 

This version also stores the 3rd party API check allowing GPU users to start checking CPU users avg credits through API, storing these results in memory for cpu payment preverification.
 
Aysyr, please let me know if all of this works for you and if the first payments are sent out overnight.
 
My current test results: I set up 2 projects in Projects, Beacons sent; waiting for my .02grc payment.  Im listed in listcpuminers as owed 150grc.
 
Do a "listcpuminers" from the rpc to see if your grc address appears after verifying the setup using query credits and following the cpumining setup guide written by Andrew P.

 
Best Regards,
Rob Halford

TribalBob:  I read that you created a consolidated guide;  thanks!  I haven't had a chance to read it yet, but when we are more stable, I will put it on the web site.

Grid
 

Thats cool were on cryptotc.com, its a good start.

I see the diff is increasing, it looks like the days of easy solo mining are over .

With scrypt sleep, we should end up being 33+% more efficient than other scrypt coins.  With our new cpumining feature (which is boinc only mining) we will be 100% efficient on that front; and this combination should give us a combined efficiency of 75% or more as a network!

CPUMining is close.  The cpumining pool does foster competition since it sums network total credits and forces our cpu miners to compete with each other; another positive thing for boinc utilization.

Grid