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April 30, 2014, 07:33:44 PM
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Does anybody know what this two parts(yellow marked)? my 5volt mode with 49.9k resistor swapped pot is blown(13 out of 20 GS) after 3 days 24/7 run for unknown reason. windows still recognize the com port and 5 chip still visible in cpuminer. if anybody knows the value of this two i might try to change this to see if it works.



Ferrite Beads.  
300ohm@100MHz,3A

Thanks for quick replay, any idea why would it might blow? Also is it 0603 ?
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April 30, 2014, 07:23:24 PM
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Does anybody know what this two parts(yellow marked)? my 5volt mode with 49.9k resistor swapped pot is blown(13 out of 20 GS) after 3 days 24/7 run for unknown reason. windows still recognize the com port and 5 chip still visible in cpuminer. if anybody knows the value of this two i might try to change this to see if it works.



Ferrite Beads. 
300ohm@100MHz,3A
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April 30, 2014, 07:19:09 PM



Does anybody know what this two parts(yellow marked)? my 5volt mode with 49.9k resistor swapped pot is blown(13 out of 20 GS) after 3 days 24/7 run for unknown reason. windows still recognize the com port and 5 chip still visible in cpuminer. if anybody knows the value of this two i might try to change this to see if it works.

I think they are marked as F824 & F823

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April 30, 2014, 02:22:18 PM
UDATE ON POWERING THE GRIDS WITH 5v
I found it ran nicely at stock settings - 650 mhz .
Pulled 0.77A and had a DVD volatge of 1.46. hash rate of about 250. For some reson reason the though i was only able to get one type of grid running with 5v. The newer type wiht the SMD leds.
Once modded though the hasrate dropped through the floor BIG TIME! went down to about 20-70! ouch! so back to 12 v it was.
So basically anyone runnign these at stock no overcloking or modding - why woud you though! - can run these on 5v wihtout effecting the hasrate and save on enery costs.

summary stock (no modsS!!! ) 650 - never tested 850 sorry - runs fine (SMD LED version only).
DO NOT run a modded grid on 5V your hashrate suffers.Even at 650!
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April 30, 2014, 01:42:00 PM
To everyone that has done this mod, have any of you needed to upgrade cooling on the unit?

I was using thermal compound on mine, and one of mine shorted out and fried the gridseed. Apparently when you remove the pad, the screws compress down and potentially touch the unit.

Are you guys just leaving stock pads on there? I would like to get aftermarket pads, but to upgrade cooling on 50 of my seeds will be like $200 in thermal pads lol.

The thermal interface grease makes me paranoid now because of the 1 unit that fried.
this has been discussed and mentioned about the risks of shortening out componets etc.
there been many discussion about pads or paste or stock! we all know where you stand wolfey Smiley
thermal paste is better - but more messy!
the bits that are touching seem to be the crystal - ive dented mine! - and the chip next to it. theres the option to get the rimmel out and take a bit out of the center column on the heatsink.
I say use the thermal paste underside, thats where most heat goes! trim the heatsink, on top, pads - i use a bit of thermal paste as well to help with adhesion to the chips. be warned though

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6361304 - concerning the underside of the PCB!

to save some pad yher is no reson to cover the whole of the center column in thermal pad. just cover the tops of the chips - 4 small squares! you can make the one near the power supply a bit bigger to cover the crystal and chip.
and i found Zig post as well Wink

EDIT : yeah adding the link to Zig post WOULD help Smiley : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6365619

hope this helps. theres no clean answer on this topic - just lots of advie and recommendaitons - good and bad Smiley, its really a person preference, until we get test data on temp and paste vs pads vs stock, but i dont see that happening anytime soon Smiley One last thing dont tighen the screw too much risk of short and risk of damage to PCB - i over tighten and dented my crystal!
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April 30, 2014, 01:29:10 PM
I have wierd anomaly with one gridseed 5chipper. It seems that only one out of 5chips is working. It hashes 80khs, but gives no HW errors.
I checked its PCB and saw no problems.
Any ideas?

Did you do a volt mod ...and which one...?

yeah, basic 2+2 dots solder together voltmod. Only one miner out of 72 is having this problem.

Sounds like a RMA...back to GAW...72 Gridseeds kit...right...?

I got the same kit delivered yesterday...best bang for the money... Wink
modding voids warranty!

Ofc. Im not going to bother with attempting to RMA it.
Anyway. I undid the voltmod and still no improvement. Double checked all PCB components and found nothing wrong again. Going to wash it with toothbrush and cleaner. If theres some physical disruption then washing cleans it up. If theres faulty component, then i will probably never find it. So washing is my last hope.  Cheesy
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April 30, 2014, 01:28:54 PM
To everyone that has done this mod, have any of you needed to upgrade cooling on the unit?

I was using thermal compound on mine, and one of mine shorted out and fried the gridseed. Apparently when you remove the pad, the screws compress down and potentially touch the unit.

Are you guys just leaving stock pads on there? I would like to get aftermarket pads, but to upgrade cooling on 50 of my seeds will be like $200 in thermal pads lol.

The thermal interface grease makes me paranoid now because of the 1 unit that fried.

If you remove the thermal pad on the back of the unit, you have to insulate the exposed contacts otherwise a short WILL occur.  If you chose to use paste on the top of the chips instead of the thermal pad, then chances are you'll need to mill out part of the heatsink so that it makes full contact to all five gc3355 chips.  There are 2 components (a 6-pin chip and the crystal) which are taller than the gc3355 chips.  If you crank down the heatsink, you'll put a lot of pressure on those two components and likely break them or at least break the solder connection to the board.  Thermal pads may not have level of heat transfer that the thermal paste does, but they're a much easier option.
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April 30, 2014, 01:13:34 PM
To everyone that has done this mod, have any of you needed to upgrade cooling on the unit?

I was using thermal compound on mine, and one of mine shorted out and fried the gridseed. Apparently when you remove the pad, the screws compress down and potentially touch the unit.

Are you guys just leaving stock pads on there? I would like to get aftermarket pads, but to upgrade cooling on 50 of my seeds will be like $200 in thermal pads lol.

The thermal interface grease makes me paranoid now because of the 1 unit that fried.
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Activity: 84
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April 30, 2014, 12:59:00 PM
I have wierd anomaly with one gridseed 5chipper. It seems that only one out of 5chips is working. It hashes 80khs, but gives no HW errors.
I checked its PCB and saw no problems.
Any ideas?

Did you do a volt mod ...and which one...?

yeah, basic 2+2 dots solder together voltmod. Only one miner out of 72 is having this problem.

Sounds like a RMA...back to GAW...72 Gridseeds kit...right...?

I got the same kit delivered yesterday...best bang for the money... Wink
modding voids warranty!
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April 30, 2014, 12:57:32 PM
oh well looks like crystal swap is in the pipline - upgrade the crystal anyone? thinking maybe a 33mhz in there Wink.


Since I'm curious, I ordered some crystals to test on one pod. I'll report if anything apart from black magic smoke comes out of the tests.
According to gridseed notes, the crystal used can be up to 50MHz.

27MHz arrived at home, so I'll test it on one pod if it still hashes, I'll go for 33Mhz or close
I'm wondering where we can see the difference since the pod only uses the oscillator/crystal as a clock reference.
1000Mhz setting will actually be 1080, but where/how to check?
got my 33mhz too! first got to get them hash stable before i can even consider trying it on any
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April 30, 2014, 12:56:20 PM
So to post some good news after the lot bad from my side i got 20nF capacitors today and fixed my not working gridseed *puhh* but no vmodding for me anymore to small and tiny ..

anyway has someone info if hashra wi update to sandors cpuminer ?
try wolfey version of the mod! same thing but uses a 1/8 axle resistor - so bit easy to handle, alos solder it different points, but whihc are electrical the same. He done several post on his mod, sure if you ask he hee point the page - maybe hell give you a link to it too. its sound as is zig mod electircal they are both sound mods. wolfey mod is in here some where many pages ago!
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Activity: 406
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April 30, 2014, 12:01:25 PM
I have wierd anomaly with one gridseed 5chipper. It seems that only one out of 5chips is working. It hashes 80khs, but gives no HW errors.
I checked its PCB and saw no problems.
Any ideas?

Did you do a volt mod ...and which one...?

yeah, basic 2+2 dots solder together voltmod. Only one miner out of 72 is having this problem.

Sounds like a RMA...back to GAW...72 Gridseeds kit...right...?

I got the same kit delivered yesterday...best bang for the money... Wink
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Activity: 546
Merit: 500
April 30, 2014, 11:46:33 AM
I have wierd anomaly with one gridseed 5chipper. It seems that only one out of 5chips is working. It hashes 80khs, but gives no HW errors.
I checked its PCB and saw no problems.
Any ideas?

Did you do a volt mod ...and which one...?

yeah, basic 2+2 dots solder together voltmod. Only one miner out of 72 is having this problem.
ZiG
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Activity: 406
Merit: 250
April 30, 2014, 11:37:55 AM
I have wierd anomaly with one gridseed 5chipper. It seems that only one out of 5chips is working. It hashes 80khs, but gives no HW errors.
I checked its PCB and saw no problems.
Any ideas?

Did you do a volt mod ...and which one...?
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
April 30, 2014, 11:08:56 AM
I have wierd anomaly with one gridseed 5chipper. It seems that only one out of 5chips is working. It hashes 80khs, but gives no HW errors.
I checked its PCB and saw no problems.
Any ideas?
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April 30, 2014, 10:54:52 AM
will this mod work with hashra controla?
The mod will work for any mining software, you just need to change the chip frequency.

Nervous to attempt, but an extra 100 khsh across 20 miners translates to an extra 2Mhsh. Anyone want to share any best practices aside from OP?

I did the 49.9k mod on all 14 of my gridseeds and I'm glad I did. I'm running CPUminer and all of my chips are stable at 1200mhz and up. The pool and CPUminer and both reporting very close to each other so I'm happy!!

Thanks for the follow up; can you list the tools/hardware you used and your new hash rate? Also if possible, anyone know the page in thus thread where I find the 49.9k mod offhand?

Go here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/guide-jesses-official-overclocking-voltmod-guide-for-g-blade-gridseeds-v2-575315 for good pictures and a nice writeup of the steps you need to take.  Good luck.
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April 30, 2014, 09:53:01 AM
Check your crystal!!! just inspected mine and found a small dent in the top - caught possible from when fitting the top and maybe overtighted a bit too much. the dent fits exactly where the edge of the central heatsink block is. darn it. time to get the drimmel out again. hopefully it aint damaged it too much. oh well looks like crystal swap is in the pipline - upgrade the crystal anyone? thinking maybe a 33mhz in there Wink.

the frequency wont have fried it i had mine at over 2200MHZ back in the ealry days of this thread - got too many hadware errors though!

There are no reason to upgrade your crystal. Downgrading is much better, because it decreases the frequency steps.
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April 30, 2014, 06:34:26 AM
oh well looks like crystal swap is in the pipline - upgrade the crystal anyone? thinking maybe a 33mhz in there Wink.


Since I'm curious, I ordered some crystals to test on one pod. I'll report if anything apart from black magic smoke comes out of the tests.
According to gridseed notes, the crystal used can be up to 50MHz.

27MHz arrived at home, so I'll test it on one pod if it still hashes, I'll go for 33Mhz or close
I'm wondering where we can see the difference since the pod only uses the oscillator/crystal as a clock reference.
1000Mhz setting will actually be 1080, but where/how to check?
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April 30, 2014, 01:27:12 AM
I am not a professional solderer but I am good at things Cheesy

I bought the whole kit for under $100 with hot air station and all, and guess what? I now dont even use this ALl I use is

A pair of tweezers , a Pencil Iron, Peice of Solder, Flux , Toothbrush, Metholayed spirits to clean ANDDD a Magnifying stand ALL PURCHASED for under $50

Tiny 0402 SMD 49.9k No problems Cheesy  --- I am in Australia Sydney if anyone wants

It now takes me just under 10min to fully Thermal Cool, Solder, Test and re- assemle a Pod, This is with the 49.9k SMD 0402

I have now done almost 30 Pods still quite abit to go , But I am getting there
sr. member
Activity: 378
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April 30, 2014, 12:01:22 AM
will this mod work with hashra controla?
The mod will work for any mining software, you just need to change the chip frequency.

Nervous to attempt, but an extra 100 khsh across 20 miners translates to an extra 2Mhsh. Anyone want to share any best practices aside from OP?

I did the 49.9k mod on all 14 of my gridseeds and I'm glad I did. I'm running CPUminer and all of my chips are stable at 1200mhz and up. The pool and CPUminer and both reporting very close to each other so I'm happy!!

Thanks for the follow up; can you list the tools/hardware you used and your new hash rate? Also if possible, anyone know the page in thus thread where I find the 49.9k mod offhand?

Go back to page 1, search for - wolfey2014 - all my posts will come up, and all shall be revealed to you Wink
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