Topic: [GRP] GRouPcoin - page 2. (Read 28430 times)

Thank you , after almost screwing this job of , (well not the wallet but pushing the code to the correct repository !!) 

I think I will revisit Geist at a later time. (maybe)

Actually the more I think about it the more I like Groupcoin ,

No 21 million cap, award never cuts , it pays out 50 a block , permanently !!

Also has good security with difficulty well over 15 million and 10 minute blocks

This codebase 8.x supports level db so lot's of room for expansion of the network..................................

 


A coin that pays out forever is certainly more in line with the 'politics' of the world !!!

Hell no one can say it is a pyramid scheme since you can jump in and mine anytime and get the same rewards

GeistGeld only has the so called "dirty fix" of the RAM problem, not the full/clean fix.

That is still way better than no fix at all, of course.

The .git/config in the repo I have been using looks like this:


Which I think means I am using a specific branch or tag, one to do with the dirty fix, rather than using the bare main top of the repo you'd get if you just used the clone URL github shows you as the URL to clone the repo.

The main problem I have with p2pool that is specific to GeistGeld is that until I get GeistGeld's difficulty high enough p2pool makes so many requests to it so fast that the operating system runs out of connection handles, then p2pool cannot open connections to anything.

So I would have to solo mine it at higher and higher hash rates until I got the difficulty high enough that p2pool would not choke on it.

This would be solved of course if umpteen people all merged it. It happened to me when no-one else or no-one else with much hash rate was mining it and my pool or main miners went down or off the net or whatever.

Geistgeld's difficulty would plummet fast as it is very adaptive difficulty-adjustment. So very soon it would be at tiny difficulty, nice to CPU-mine but choking to a terahash of mining power on the p2pool.

(My problem with p2pool that is not specific to geistgeld is my Neptune would not get more than one terahash pointed at p2pool though it could get 2 or even 3.4 on mmpool).

-MarkM-

That's great work, thanks!

Would you be at all interested in having a look at the Geistgeld (XGG) client? I've been trying to get it running with my merge mining p2pool node for yonks, I eventually managed to get it compiled & running, but it sends my memory usage into overload & eventually clogs the system up. It's a shame not to use it......

Any ideas or suggestions would be very much appreciated - it's beaten me 

Thanks very much for coins.
I will rename repository asap probably tonight : it will change the url so I will then edit the corrections here so no one gets a 'dead link'. Difficult to do properly without some of my hardware atm. 

I did create it, as hired hand working for Unthinkingbit to help him create DeVCoin.

We made GRouPcoin first as a testbed to test various coding approaches toward what he wanted DeVCoin to do, then once we figured out how to code DeVCoin GRouPcoin was left as a simple 50 coins per block forever coin.

He would have been fine with just abandoning it but the gamers who had mined it to help us run the testing didn't want their characters in games to wake up without their GRouPcoins in their backpacks kind of thing so we just kept it running so the folks using it could keep on using it.

Gamers can be great for playtesting stuff but taking away their pile of sand after they have built their sandcastles with it just isn't kosher.

So technically it is just slightly older than DeVCoin, but is part of DeVCoin development so maybe should be thought of more as part of the DeVCoin project than as a rival coin that preceded DeVCoin.

(As I mentioned, gamers used to copper silver gold platinum etc at fixed exchange rates kind of hoped it would simply function as a 1000-DeVCoins denomination coin.)

Cinnamon, I am sending you two more sends of 1000 GRP each, do you think you could put your github repo at a less confusing URL, one that actually says GRouPcoin instead of I0Coin and without another URL embedded in the URL ?

-MarkM-

Lol you waited me out. You guys should ask mmpool miners for some. I'm done mining now.

I don't think Mark created this coin?

I sent you two sends of 1000 GRP each. Partly following above precedent maybe but partly simply because when initially shipping the coins out of the wallets they are mined into 1000 is a small enough collection of 50 coin mining rewards that the client can build the transaction.

Players used to roleplaying games where there are so many copper coins to a silver coin, so many silvers to a gold, so many golds to a platinum and so on used to figure that logically GRouPcoin should be a thousand-devcoin-piece since it mints 1/1000 as many coins as DeVCoin does.

Miners might tend to argue though that such a convention ought to be adjusted for difficulty, with GRouPcoin less difficult than DeVCoin thus presumably less secure, it should be worth less than a thousand DeVCoins per coin.

Looking at http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/ingroupcoins.html (Asset values expressed in GRouPcoins) it looks like folks have been losing faith in miners' ability to restrain themselves from throwing away the GRouPcoins for free or close to free; current latest values file shows them worth less than a DeVCoin each!

I wish that the gnuplot plots were working, it'd be nice if the DeVCoin folks would offer a DeVCoin bounty for figuring out what broke with those, basically the plot pages worked nicely when I was running gnuplot on Fedora but when I changed over my home systems to Ubuntu suddenly all the HTML pages of plots produced and uploaded to the webserver just look like blank pages now with the Firefox that comes with Ubuntu.

( Links to tables and plots are shown on the menu page http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html )

Still, one can scroll down the http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/ingroupcoins.html page to see that GRouPcoin was not valued so low in the past...

Last time bitpop offered to sell me some at the rates shown in the latest rates include-file (from historical archives of which the tables and plots are generated) I said I kind of had enough for now and he said well maybe he will just give them to me someday then. I anecdotally mentioned that conversation to some players (of Galactic Milieu of course) and pretty soon they all seem to have decided to just sit and wait for miners to give them away.

So thanks bitpop for at least giving them as bounties to someone deserving instead of just giving them to a rich old fart such as me.

-MarkM-

When I finished compiling this the other night I was pretty tired,  just realized I did not push the few changes made to source to the proper repository I was working from so everyone can easily see what was 'corrected' to be able to build this windows-qt client. made a little mistake.....


EDIT ONE --I DELETED THE 2nd Repo TO AVOID CONFUSION

EDIT TWO == Suggestion, coding does require you to actually sleep from time to time or you can make a stupid mistake

There are so many repo's floating around somehow i think i pushed the group coin code to an i0 coin repository i cloned..........

No worries , no damage done,  new wallet + corrections + all fixed now

Big hugs to MarkM and mmpool  for allowing me to waste their time and also pointing out what I should have noticed myself 

Source used https://github.com/cinnamoncoin/groupcoin-1

Minor revisions I made https://github.com/cinnamoncoin/groupcoin-1/commits/i0coin-0.8.x
 

I never ran into rsnel Roadkill however he did the heavy lifting appears commits are almost 2 years old !!!
Tested on win 8 , tested in win 7 also
In linux it built right out of the box.

The wallet I built is on my pc not with me at the time and connected right up to the network and download the blockchain.

Please let me know if the wallet works ok for you / or if there are any obvious issues and when I have time I may be able to look at them.

Please also understand that I get the impression this coin was started/run by markm.  I have other projects I am currently developing /researching.

I am not trying to 'take it over' in any way.  

Markm if you would like a logo replaced or checkpoint added (unless you prefer to do it yourself) post the logo here and when I have some time I will try to rebuild it. I know very little of the early history of this coin but difficulty was a couple hundred thousand when I built the wallet and is up to 4.5 million right now.  


It can be merge mined with bitcoin and is at MMpool ..... http://mmpool.org/ along with a total of 5 other coins !!

Thanks again to the nice guy and Markm who sent coins to my wallet  

Windows-Qt  Release Groupcoin 2015  Wallethttps://github.com/cinnamoncoin/groupcoin-1/releases/tag/GRouPcoin


My Groupcoin address is: 2hhJ2BN82oBZuFfHdSNE8Ehja8jMhxtjjkf

To add further weight to your suggestion, note that there's "Gridcoin Research" (GRC) already listed on Poloniex.

thanks for coins I won't get until i get home tomorrrow or the next day staying across town !!

yes roadtrains repo , i forked it , linux builds right out of the box

i pushed to my own fork the few changes necessary to build on win

compiled with mingw 46, boost_1_55_0 , openssl-1.0.2a , qr support enabled, miniupnpc enabled

tested on win 8 and win 7 vm, now that I have coins I can test further, and check rpc console

hope no one is upset but the logo ect was just like I found it in the tin, just looked like a coin that needed a wallet for windows 

thanks again very much for sending coins

Sent another 1186

If you were thinking of sending me some, send them to Cinnamon instead.

Cinnamon, did you use RoadTrain's repo?

Also, as its not on any exchanges, please please lets use GRP (as I keep hinting by typing GRouPcoin), not GRC.

GRC for GRouPcoin is about as pathetic as BQC for BBQcoin. GRP and BBQ are instantly understandable shorthand to English speakers, why create an artificially less obvious code?

GRouPcoin has been GRP since its original creation. And is ancient so has first claim to the symbol.

BBQcoin seems like it probably was thinking BBQ too, else why not call is Barbecuecoin instead of BBQcoin?

The fact that some exchange or other butchered BBQcoin to BQC seems though to indicate that even if GRouPcoin had been named GRPcoin someone would still have butchered it...

-MarkM-

Sent 1000

I have gpc I need to get rid of, post your addresses

No website-type exchange ever had it, I am pretty sure.

All we had was my Open Transactions server, which is still not a lot of use to normal folks since "Open Transactions for Grandmas" project seems to have gone on back burner...

...And a change in the internals of Open Transactions also has caused all contracts and nyms and accounts to go obsolete, so currently only ancient clients can even access the stuff.

-MarkM-

I noticed today, in setting up all my coins at home (having been forced to shut down my p2pool I had for merged mining out on the net) that my groupcoind uses tons of RAM, even more than the "dirty fix applied" geistgeldd I am using.

SO I googled and came across https://github.com/RoadTrain/groupcoin

I just started it now. Unlike what I had been using (off my sourceforge download site, not github), this one uses leveldb. Its binary, stripped, is half the size of the stripped binary of what I had been using, though that might be mostly to do with what libs are static/dynamic.

It uses tiny RAM, like other fully fixed (as opposed to dirty-fixed) merged mined coins.

I have written to mmpool admin to check what he is using, as I cannot test merged mining currently being still in midst of setting up everything at home.

-MarkM-

win wallet released


https://github.com/cinnamoncoin/groupcoinmaster/releases/tag/groupcoin-qtwin1

t is really untested since I have no coins.

2hhJ2BN82oBZuFfHdSNE8Ehja8jMhxtjjkf



It did find connections and synch up to the network fairly quickly after I fired it up the first time.
Coins with linux only versions don't usually go very far.

https://github.com/cinnamoncoin/groupcoinmaster


note little glitch found i am rebuilding the wallet now and correcting --- will post near bottom of thread -------------- edit two

No I'm using the vm

Does anyone have a Windows qt wallet that's working for this? I'm not able to compile the code myself.

I don't think an exchange ever had it