Topic: [GRP] GRouPcoin - page 7. (Read 28430 times)
I hope whoever is holding my gpc is still around
If groups do that with groupcoin. Isn't there an arbitrage opportunity by mining or buying GPC? How do they value the GPC high enough to avoid arbitrage?
GRP can be merge-mined with bitcoin. on the bad side its a memory whore 
If groups do that with groupcoin. Isn't there an arbitrage opportunity by mining or buying GPC? How do they value the GPC high enough to avoid arbitrage?
Until recently, GRouPcoin was mostly used by groups, such as guilds, clans, gangs and so on, bunches of players working together.
So most never even used the satoshi-client at all, instead their guild or gang or whatever (their "group") would have an account on the Digitalis Open Transactions server and maybe for some groups, the group might also have some kind of group banking system set up somewhere, maybe even on Tor or i2p, maybe running something like Cyclos.
Some "groups" tended mostly to use in-game currencies in the various games, leaving the holding of blockchain based coins and such to the clan/gang/group "officers" to hold as basic behind the scense collateral for the group as a whole.
So maybe if you are not a compling type of person you could check around in your "group" for someone who is, or form a "group" and try to attract someone into the "group" who likes to do nitty gritty financial program type stuff, or even maybe try to join a group that already has some kind of banking/finance stuff set up for its members...
-MarkM-
So most never even used the satoshi-client at all, instead their guild or gang or whatever (their "group") would have an account on the Digitalis Open Transactions server and maybe for some groups, the group might also have some kind of group banking system set up somewhere, maybe even on Tor or i2p, maybe running something like Cyclos.
Some "groups" tended mostly to use in-game currencies in the various games, leaving the holding of blockchain based coins and such to the clan/gang/group "officers" to hold as basic behind the scense collateral for the group as a whole.
So maybe if you are not a compling type of person you could check around in your "group" for someone who is, or form a "group" and try to attract someone into the "group" who likes to do nitty gritty financial program type stuff, or even maybe try to join a group that already has some kind of banking/finance stuff set up for its members...
-MarkM-
No, those are source-code tarballs, so you can compile them however you want.
-MarkM-
No, those are source-code tarballs, so you can compile them however you want.
-MarkM-
No, those are source-code tarballs, so you can compile them however you want.
-MarkM-
Is this link is only for 64bit?
http://sourceforge.net/projects/galacticmilieu/files/GRouPcoin/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/galacticmilieu/files/GRouPcoin/
Here are my compilation instructions, because this thing is shipped with the crappy makefiles from early bitcoin releases.
Get fixed makefile.unix from http://pastebin.com/ncnG57t8
BDB_LIB_SUFFIX=-4.8 BDB_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/include/db4.8 make -f makefile.unix groupcoind
Your bdb include path might be different depending on your installation - but if you compiled any recent *coin you should already know what to do with it. The most important part is to ask for groupcoind, as the wxwidgets one is even more of a nightmare to compile.
If that helped you, send your first groupcoins to 2huz72a79xir7cFEnNKvQN9KeBmGqRRUr1w
Get fixed makefile.unix from http://pastebin.com/ncnG57t8
BDB_LIB_SUFFIX=-4.8 BDB_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/include/db4.8 make -f makefile.unix groupcoind
Your bdb include path might be different depending on your installation - but if you compiled any recent *coin you should already know what to do with it. The most important part is to ask for groupcoind, as the wxwidgets one is even more of a nightmare to compile.
If that helped you, send your first groupcoins to 2huz72a79xir7cFEnNKvQN9KeBmGqRRUr1w
Hope you don't mind, I'm abusing your groupcoin wallet address for the Bitparking pool.
Edit :
groupcoin Paid 0.02477568 to 2huz72a79xir7cFEnNKvQN9KeBmGqRRUr1w
LOL
The plan is to upgrade it to the new code that I0Coin uses, however which merged mined coin gets updated first likely depends on the perceived reward; now that this one is on mmpool its difficulty has skyrocketed, probably too soon for the guy who came up with the new code to have mined a lot of these coins at low difficulty.
So I would expect whatever coins he is/was able to pick up at low difficulty might be the soonest upgraded simply because the more he has of a coin the more he stands to gain by upgrading it.
Mind you, I0Coin has been going down on Vircurex lately, so maybe even taking the time to mine a lot of coins before upgrading the code might not really pay all that well if other coins perform like I0Coin once they do get on exchanges.
Presumably mmpool users are steadily accumulating coins though, so maybe one of these months or years or whatever someone will decide they have a large enough stash that getting an upgrade done would be worthwhile...
Most of my players that have been snapping up merged mined coins the last few years do not use clients themselves, they just book-keep the things as just more in-game possessions kind of thing, hoarding them just like they hoard magic swords or mithril or whatever else.
-MarkM-
So I would expect whatever coins he is/was able to pick up at low difficulty might be the soonest upgraded simply because the more he has of a coin the more he stands to gain by upgrading it.
Mind you, I0Coin has been going down on Vircurex lately, so maybe even taking the time to mine a lot of coins before upgrading the code might not really pay all that well if other coins perform like I0Coin once they do get on exchanges.
Presumably mmpool users are steadily accumulating coins though, so maybe one of these months or years or whatever someone will decide they have a large enough stash that getting an upgrade done would be worthwhile...
Most of my players that have been snapping up merged mined coins the last few years do not use clients themselves, they just book-keep the things as just more in-game possessions kind of thing, hoarding them just like they hoard magic swords or mithril or whatever else.
-MarkM-
Hi guys,
Where I can find newest version of groupcoin daemon for Linux? Source code or binary? On this thread I only found links to some 1 year old builds?
Where I can find newest version of groupcoin daemon for Linux? Source code or binary? On this thread I only found links to some 1 year old builds?
I compiled the daemon from the source linked in the OP of this thread. It seems to be working fine.
It's kinda scary to use such ancient code now. It will not eat all my RAM, all CPU cycles and will not force my PC to jump over the window?
Is there any active development going on this coin now?
Yup, it's kinda clunky all right......but dem coins are still coming
Hi guys,
Where I can find newest version of groupcoin daemon for Linux? Source code or binary? On this thread I only found links to some 1 year old builds?
Where I can find newest version of groupcoin daemon for Linux? Source code or binary? On this thread I only found links to some 1 year old builds?
I compiled the daemon from the source linked in the OP of this thread. It seems to be working fine.
It's kinda scary to use such ancient code now. It will not eat all my RAM, all CPU cycles and will not force my PC to jump over the window?
Is there any active development going on this coin now?
The client does not appear in the windows?
Can anyone have?
Can anyone have?
Only way is to use VirtualBox on Windows and install a linux in there. Then install the wallet in that linux. Thats what i did.
The client does not appear in the windows?
Can anyone have?
Can anyone have?
Hi guys,
Where I can find newest version of groupcoin daemon for Linux? Source code or binary? On this thread I only found links to some 1 year old builds?
Where I can find newest version of groupcoin daemon for Linux? Source code or binary? On this thread I only found links to some 1 year old builds?
I compiled the daemon from the source linked in the OP of this thread. It seems to be working fine.
Hi guys,
Where I can find newest version of groupcoin daemon for Linux? Source code or binary? On this thread I only found links to some 1 year old builds?
Where I can find newest version of groupcoin daemon for Linux? Source code or binary? On this thread I only found links to some 1 year old builds?
who can give me a windows ver client?
Yes, that is what the latest I0Coin does. All the other merged mined coins need to be upgraded using that new code.
Hopefully GeistGeld first as it won't even run on my 8 gigs of RAM machines anymore since some time now.
-MarkM-
Hopefully GeistGeld first as it won't even run on my 8 gigs of RAM machines anymore since some time now.
-MarkM-
FWIW, groupcoin is already consuming 1.3GB worth of RAM on my *nix box. Only 55MB of that is actually "paged in" which makes me think that most of the data structures held in memory are very rarely used... so 95% of the allocated memory spends most of the time swapped out to disk. I can see this also causing problems because most typical *nix systems will probably not have huge amounts of swap. In my case, groupcoind, one single process, is using 1.25GB of swap, which is about 32%
Is there some way to streamline the client so it keeps those structures on disk instead, rather than consuming RAM/swap?
Is there some way to streamline the client so it keeps those structures on disk instead, rather than consuming RAM/swap?
All the merged mined coins except I0Coin need new code to deal with the fact that merged mining eats more RAM, faster, than non-merged mining.
The faster a coin spits out blocks, the faster it runs into the problem of it using huge amounts of RAM.
GRouPcoin is a relatively sedate coin, with ten minutes block timing target if I recall correctly, so it is less urgent to update GRouPcoin than it is to update those merged mined coins that have faster average time between blocks target.
Presumably GRouPcoin will get done eventually, it is just not the one in most-urgent need right now.
Also, once it gets onto exchanges then maybe developers will be more interested in bounties denominated in GRouPcoin thus more responsive to the needs of GRouPcoin users who desire work done on the coin and have coins to reward developers for doing the work.
-MarkM-
The faster a coin spits out blocks, the faster it runs into the problem of it using huge amounts of RAM.
GRouPcoin is a relatively sedate coin, with ten minutes block timing target if I recall correctly, so it is less urgent to update GRouPcoin than it is to update those merged mined coins that have faster average time between blocks target.
Presumably GRouPcoin will get done eventually, it is just not the one in most-urgent need right now.
Also, once it gets onto exchanges then maybe developers will be more interested in bounties denominated in GRouPcoin thus more responsive to the needs of GRouPcoin users who desire work done on the coin and have coins to reward developers for doing the work.
-MarkM-
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