[Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide [1st Feb 2016] - page 49.

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Quote from: grn on July 07, 2014, 01:20:43 AM

Does anything above a D - failing grade - mean that company is safe to order from and I can expect to receive product as advertised and in a reasonable amount of time? ie 1 - 2 weeks

No, absolutely not. Even A companies could absolutely fail on a shipment or turn full scam. Look what happened to KNC, they've fallen off a cliff.

The guide is to be used to augment your own research and decision making process. No one can tell you what to do with your money or what will happen in the future.

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Quote from: rodeoclownicp on July 07, 2014, 02:36:41 AM

Quote from: grn on July 07, 2014, 01:20:43 AM

Does anything above a D - failing grade - mean that company is safe to order from and I can expect to receive product as advertised and in a reasonable amount of time? ie 1 - 2 weeks

this is not an official reliable thread - the rankings are purly fictional - the way this works is when a company performs badly they can hook dogie up so they can get a better ranking - its all b.s. - do not check this thread for reliability - its useless

If you spent 10th of the time you spent trolling here on actually contacting your local law enforcement, you might actually get your money back.

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Quote from: RoadStress on July 07, 2014, 01:04:11 AM

Quote from: dogie on July 06, 2014, 06:18:01 AM

You didn't order from them, hence you can't quote an order number.

Isn't this post https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7703787 enough to downgrade them? Why do you need an order number for reviewing them?

He's talking about Lightning ASIC not blackarrow. He sent btc to a scammer pretending to be them because he typed in the wrong skype ID, but still wants the legitimate company downgraded.

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Guys, did someone deal with Segree - BitWinkor?
Why they are not in this rating? Is there a reason for not mention them here?

Sorry if this my post should not be posted in this thread...

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Quote from: grn on July 07, 2014, 01:20:43 AM

Does anything above a D - failing grade - mean that company is safe to order from and I can expect to receive product as advertised and in a reasonable amount of time? ie 1 - 2 weeks

this is not an official reliable thread - the rankings are purly fictional - the way this works is when a company performs badly they can hook dogie up so they can get a better ranking - its all b.s. - do not check this thread for reliability - its useless

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Does anything above a D - failing grade - mean that company is safe to order from and I can expect to receive product as advertised and in a reasonable amount of time? ie 1 - 2 weeks

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Quote from: dogie on July 06, 2014, 06:18:01 AM

You didn't order from them, hence you can't quote an order number.

Isn't this post https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7703787 enough to downgrade them? Why do you need an order number for reviewing them?

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on July 06, 2014, 08:35:35 PM

Quote from: zimmah on July 06, 2014, 04:44:02 AM

Blackarrow still hasn't shipped, they hardly ever communicate and they don't offer refunds.

how are they still a C+?

Exactly, Black Arrow should be downgraded to BFL territory Z-

That would be the only fair grade for this obvious scam outfit that won't refund customers, won't communicate real ship dates, won't offer realistic or fair compensation, forces customers to buy additional PSUs for said compensation, and deliberately deleted any relevant comments from a Whistleblower who was spot on(Phinneaus Gage) on their main thread, so they can continue on with their charade as a "legitimate company".

They executed the "Long Con" to perfection, as they've finally announced that they'll finally ship at the end of July. If they do ship or not these useless miners, doesn't matter, only Minersource customers were able to get refunds. BA was able to pocket the rest.

Considering all the millions of dollars they swindled out of customers(Minimum Order Quantity of X-1s: 10 and X-3 ~$6000), 5 month+ delay, multiple multiple difficulty jumps later, the only fair rating for these crooks is a BFL class grade.

I'm sure Dogie will do us all right with his next update. Warn all noobs and prospective buyers of mining equipment, the dangers of ordering from the crooks called Black Arrow Software.

hey bro i am down grading them- boom - they are downgraded- see it was that easy - waiting for some sort of meaning from this thread is as absurd - lets all start one its a good way to get discounts and you dont even need to be accurate- a matter of fact you get the discounts for being in-accurate

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Quote from: zimmah on July 06, 2014, 04:44:02 AM

Blackarrow still hasn't shipped, they hardly ever communicate and they don't offer refunds.

how are they still a C+?

Exactly, Black Arrow should be downgraded to BFL territory Z-

That would be the only fair grade for this obvious scam outfit that won't refund customers, won't communicate real ship dates, won't offer realistic or fair compensation, forces customers to buy additional PSUs for said compensation, and deliberately deleted any relevant comments from a Whistleblower who was spot on(Phinneaus Gage) on their main thread, so they can continue on with their charade as a "legitimate company".

They executed the "Long Con" to perfection, as they've finally announced that they'll finally ship at the end of July. If they do ship or not these useless miners, doesn't matter, only Minersource customers were able to get refunds. BA was able to pocket the rest.

Considering all the millions of dollars they swindled out of customers(Minimum Order Quantity of X-1s: 10 and X-3 ~$6000), 5 month+ delay, multiple multiple difficulty jumps later, the only fair rating for these crooks is a BFL class grade.

I'm sure Dogie will do us all right with his next update. Warn all noobs and prospective buyers of mining equipment, the dangers of ordering from the crooks called Black Arrow Software.

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Quote from: rodeoclownicp on July 05, 2014, 02:01:20 AM

Quote from: dogie on July 04, 2014, 03:16:27 PM

Quote from: rodeoclownicp on July 04, 2014, 02:56:03 PM

Quote from: colinistheman on July 04, 2014, 02:52:20 PM

Thank you for this guide! It is the perfect weapon against dishonest companies.

I have been waiting for my 65nm hardware for a year and a half (I upgraded it to a Monarch and have been waiting 8 months for that now). Your guide is very accurate about that company. Do not buy from BFL!

yes but this site has lightning asic as an A.. and i will never get my products, this guide being correct is just a coincidence

You don't have an order with lightning asic so no, you won't receive any products from them.

that makes no sense

You didn't order from them, hence you can't quote an order number.

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Blackarrow still hasn't shipped, they hardly ever communicate and they don't offer refunds.

how are they still a C+?

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Quote from: dogie on July 04, 2014, 03:16:27 PM

Quote from: rodeoclownicp on July 04, 2014, 02:56:03 PM

Quote from: colinistheman on July 04, 2014, 02:52:20 PM

Thank you for this guide! It is the perfect weapon against dishonest companies.

I have been waiting for my 65nm hardware for a year and a half (I upgraded it to a Monarch and have been waiting 8 months for that now). Your guide is very accurate about that company. Do not buy from BFL!

yes but this site has lightning asic as an A.. and i will never get my products, this guide being correct is just a coincidence

You don't have an order with lightning asic so no, you won't receive any products from them.

that makes no sense

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Might I request that CoinTerra continues to KEEP its "E" rating until they start honoring warrantee repairs that were first reported during the warrantee.

I have been waiting for an RMA number for a month.....Now my machine is "out of warrantee" and they will not repair it.

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Quote from: rodeoclownicp on July 04, 2014, 02:56:03 PM

Quote from: colinistheman on July 04, 2014, 02:52:20 PM

Thank you for this guide! It is the perfect weapon against dishonest companies.

I have been waiting for my 65nm hardware for a year and a half (I upgraded it to a Monarch and have been waiting 8 months for that now). Your guide is very accurate about that company. Do not buy from BFL!

yes but this site has lightning asic as an A.. and i will never get my products, this guide being correct is just a coincidence

You don't have an order with lightning asic so no, you won't receive any products from them.

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Quote from: colinistheman on July 04, 2014, 02:52:20 PM

Thank you for this guide! It is the perfect weapon against dishonest companies.

I have been waiting for my 65nm hardware for a year and a half (I upgraded it to a Monarch and have been waiting 8 months for that now). Your guide is very accurate about that company. Do not buy from BFL!

yes but this site has lightning asic as an A.. and i will never get my products, this guide being correct is just a coincidence

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Quote from: tylenool on June 27, 2014, 01:05:19 AM

...GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR SP10 THOUGH I HOPE YOU DONT LOSE YOUR HEARING BY THE END OF THE YEAR Wink

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SORRY, I DIDNT HEAR YOU THE FIRST TIME.

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Thank you for this guide! It is the perfect weapon against dishonest companies.

I have been waiting for my 65nm hardware for a year and a half (I upgraded it to a Monarch and have been waiting 8 months for that now). Your guide is very accurate about that company. Do not buy from BFL!

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BFL has its own category Grin

I waited nearly 2 damn months for my 10 GH/s Jalapeno and it was the LOUDEST PIECE OF SCRAP IVE EVER SEEN. Needless to say, I passed it on to the next fellow on eBay.

Keep up the amazing work Dogie, your reviews and guides have helped me unbelievably.

GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR SP10 THOUGH I HOPE YOU DONT LOSE YOUR HEARING BY THE END OF THE YEAR Wink

Best of Luck,
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Quote from: el_rlee on June 23, 2014, 07:12:39 AM

Hi, would be great if you could always add who offers the best $/Ghs rate of in-hand hardware.

What about all the Chinese poping up like Garden BTC or Dragon Miner or whatnot?

BTCGarden will go up once more people have hardware (so we know what its failure rate is like). I never added the dragon because its being sold by 1000 different methods from 10 different factories. There is no one company so there is no guarantee that anyone even gets their product. Its a terrible business model.

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Hi, would be great if you could always add who offers the best $/Ghs rate of in-hand hardware.

What about all the Chinese poping up like Garden BTC or Dragon Miner or whatnot?

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