Topic: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide [1st Feb 2016] - page 53. (Read 131512 times)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dogggies-a-scammer-and-heres-why-645074   

your not bothered, you took it upon yourself to reply, u can just go on your mary way... i dont care what skype he has anywhere, i am talking about the skype icon on the website, so u replied without reading any thing- .. i lost btc not usd... dont give a shit what u think its worth....  u also said "The Skype ID's on the website never changed" he said himself as well as other people on the thread that they changed from 3 to 4.... so dont be a lier and act like you are not the one spamming ... none of my shit is lies.... this is a thread about rating and  i am talking about rating someone who has a website where either he or people who worked there gave out a bs address... and he directed people to the skype in his posts to avoid the scammer.. left that fact out i see - so your two faced and will just say what helps your point rather than be honest- not surprised your into this rating system - its perfect for people who believe in the tooth fairy

Seriously, stop spamming. You have been posting multiple times a day in the LA thread for weeks now, don't start doing the same thing here.

The Skype ID's on the website never changed. I don't know what exactly happened, but you sent the bitcoin to a scammer. It's your own fault, LA had his BTC address in his post, and warned everybody not to use any other address multiple times. BTC was like $400 when this happened, so you lost $320. Yes, it's never nice to loose money, but stop bothering us with your mistake.

Yeah an no matter who will do the rating a wasp will not be a part of it. This ratings do not rate blinking LEDs Bick
Ps:
Doggie just to make Bick happy I do suggest to open new rating.
That would be something like the most fancy blinking open source (without a line of source ever published) board hashing with 0 GH
And give WASP AAA+++
And never include vs3 in that rating skip bkk and others
And please make sure that wasp is the only one who will participate so they are always top 1  
Just a thought.....
Ops Bick just edited his post like he always  does
Any way following  Bick bright ideas take all of the above as suggestion doggie
That would improve your rating system
Now seriously keep the good work doggie.
Thank you

If you don't like how Dogie does his ratings... maybe we need more people doing the same thing here?

Just a thought. It seems like a lot of people think Dogie has some sort of motivation to twist the ratings. He, unlike most, is sticking to a methodology for the ratings. Maybe you need to do your own system and post it and compete with him. I am pretty sure there are better metrics available but who has the time and the focus of Dogie? If it were easy everyone would have a rating scale and posting.

How about giving him some suggestions and or evidence and leave out the personal witch hunt so he can rework the parameters for a better system?

  i believe you see the flaw in your logic and i feel like you are trying to split the difference-

you wrote "On the site there was a listed Skype ID"  yes i agree

then you wrote "When you type in that ID, several addresses come up" - this part is absurd. if you are on the site looking at the icon you click on, you would not then do anything else but click on it. now, i know from my last post i made this very clear. so your telling me that i went to a site to look at a skype icon to then do a search, and as you said, "several addresses come up" and then picked one at random as opposed to already accomplishing my goal by just contacting them right from the website that i would have to go to to get the skype name..... so first u bring up tx id, which i give then you find another method of denial.. thats so fucked... please stop rating people .

and if your willing to go to such lengths for lightningasic.com why not counter balance that with the person who has more proof and who has common sense on his side..... this is not a rating service you just figured out a way to get free shit- this wont be tolerated... lightningasic paid you of and you went on there thread made no public inquiries and told everybody u have upgraded them to an A,,,, really .... if u try to bs me again i will take offense,, you decided to do this rating thing, so is it real or just a joke to you?

On the site there was a listed Skype ID. When you type in that ID, several addresses come up. You can test that yourself. One of them is the scammer, which you must have engaged with as you sent the scammer funds.

I'm not sure why you're attacking me though...

OH MY GOD..YOU ARE KIDDING... WHAT ARE YOU SAYING??? did you read my post? that did not just happen...   ok let me break it down for you,, you said , "There was a copycat scammer with a slightly different skype name"

how contact was made:

choice number 1. i clicked on the icon to make contact
choice number 2. i went to the website to get the skype info from the icon so i could type it in myself, copied it wrong, and then by accident got a scammer whose name was the same but just off by one random digit (and i typed this in rather than just simply moving my mouse to click on it)



please say which scenario you are implying.. PLEASE DONT TRY TO BE RIGHT JUST BE HONEST... once you pick we can go from there

There was a copycat scammer with a slightly different skype name, that's probably what happened. You were scammed by a copycat rather than the actual Lightning ASIC. Have a look here (archive site for forums): https://bitcointa.lk/threads/scammer-alert-dreamzz.318850/

The address you sent to was for the scammer, NOT the actual company.

2291583835c58d38a144c2239923aba5c669cdc0790c03da3f2656b00c2bf7b0

 i checked the pm. and  i posted the thread which had the posted block chain- i said "sent" to you and that is incorrect because it implies i did so directly. - i am wrong about that- but it was accessible from the info in the pm... you will see the id and the original posts correspond directly- posts right after i realized i was ripped off- NO A or B rating for thiefs ever- or till made right if they "say it wasnt us but it happened on our site so we have to make it right"

you will also see in the pm i sent you that i offered to give you a copy of the skype convo... but it has personal stuff in it and now i cant trust you--- trustworthiness at C and pending till i see what happens about this, could go either way-- but when somebody offers you personal skype info to attest to the dishonesty of a manufacturer and you never even get back to them something is wrong.. THATS WHAT YOU DO--- so for now skype off the table but u can see that he changed the skype icons from 3 to 4 after i broached the subject.. many time he tried to blame an imposter,,, not really sure what that meant??? did he mean that i manualy typed in the skype address of somebody i didnt know - when the only way to get that address would be to go to the icon that i just need to click on to initiate said skype convo? if u cant see through that your in the wrong business

again if you do right or make a correction i will acknowledge it

Ok, great! Thanks

Your guide is FABULOUS.   Just want to post a reference for Three companies that I have dealt with.

1) BITMAINTECH - AAA++ If that exists.  Crazy fast shipping (Have ordered several S1's and S2's now) great customer service, and excellent problem resolution.  SO RARE IN THIS INDUSTRY!!!!

2) Titanminer.com - A - these guys were great.  Customer service available on Sunday when I chatted with them, and they prepared a quote for me! Crazy! ON a SUNDAY??  Anyway ordered 5 of their 1 Th/s machines     
    and paid for them on Sunday - machines arrived from Hong Kong on Friday.  Excellent.    As far as the machines themselves go.... Well the GUI could be much better and it could default to English instead of
    Chinese, but they do hash as advertised so overall 2nd in line to BITMAIN.

3) BFL - These guys have a special place in He*$ reserved for them.  I do not expect folks to be perfect and never make mistakes; however, I do expect people to own up and pay for their mistakes.  BFL has
    repeatedly failed to do this.  They have lied, failed to refund orders, and shown a genuine lack of professionality on every level, and at every turn.  Here is my take.  I do love the fact that you created a ranking of
    Z for them.  A title they own and have earned with business practices.

Just like many other customers at BFL I got silenced on their boards for posting about my dissatisfaction.  When I directly asked Josh a few things and stated my opinion (Humbly I might add) he deleted my posts (quite normal for them think stalin or Kim Jong UN). Then when I reposted and asked why he felt the need to delete and have total control over conversations he banned me.   Here’s what I think based on my interactions with BFL, their history, and current affairs.

-   They have a product that was awesome 6 months ago.  It was flawed from the beginning and they knew they couldn’t get it to market in time so they switched gears and created the “Imperial” to which there was an upgrade cost.  This was to generate cash flow for the business which has been drained by engineering mistakes and necessary reworking.
-   Now they have been further delayed, their product is now inferior to others on the market which are cheaper.
-   Customers are demanding refunds, and creating law suits including a class action one.  (I am a part of that, as well as, a separate complainant with the KS attorney general’s office and their local DA.)
o    BTW… what engineer would not be able to calculate thermal dissipation for a given voltage/current across a specific size copper plate??? Especially when they created the chip and are perfectly aware of it’s heat output and thd demands….. Terrible engineering or a flat our lie.
-   BFL is now backed into a corner due to mounting legal expenses, a failed product line, angry customers demanding refunds, and horrible press. (At their booth during the BTC conference in Miami they were assaulted constantly by angry customers)
-   Basically the company is close to dying (imo) and they are reacting poorly to complaints, and acting in a very controlling way on their forum’s to restrict all Non-positive BFL commentary. 


These guys are acting like total a**es instead of owning the situation, taking accountability for their mistakes, and fixing the problems in a transparent way they are reacting, unfortunately, in a very unprofessional way.   I’ve seen dozens of folks getting banned from the forums already and the PR perception that they are trying to create is an absolute fallacy.  Just wanted to make sure to share with you the  BFL customers side of things.

-Gerald Wilkie

Changelog 06/07/2014

• Added 'movement' arrows.

1) No you didn't, you just said "I ordered from this site".
2) That was at the start of May.
3) If you have some actual proof, I can action it. You can send me the blockchain transaction and sign the sending address.
4) Lightning ASIC have not participated in any reviews, so.... yeah.

Of which none of them are shipping. They will be added if/when they become active.

Hey dogie, I like your rating system, just never had a reason to comment in this thread though.

I was wondering did you decide to only include SHA asics? I would love to see ratings for Scrypt asic companies as well. You have Lightningasic on there, but there is GAW, Zeus, Hashra, Alpha-t etc.

They're as low as they can go, not much more I can do.

dude , where do you get off making this up- you asked for a tx id and i sent it... then you ignored it and promoted lightning asic to A ... tell the truth because its already in the threads .. u get free samples.. therefore you cant be imparcial.. first time i saw this thread i was thankful.. now i see it is meaningless in no situation can u ever give somebody an A that has stolen.... there excuse was- "na ah, it wasnt us" really. the skype connection is automatically generated by there website - if it wasnt them -then thats an even worse  scenario, resulting in an even lower downgrade ... u could have done good and been a valued community type and helped get my btc back.. let them know that they have to make a few things right to get an A.... well i guess my btc went to you and this bs rating system----

well i gues we need to rate dogies thread now.... i doubt it but i hope you make me eat my words and remove that rating pending repayment

Yes he should really update the community on the fact they failed to deliver as promised and had yet more delays. And remove your negative trust rating now you have recanted as a BFL stooge.

LOL, you forgot BFL.

What about BitMain Antminer as well??