So tldr, all companies to Z next cycle.
Anyway. I'll put up Avalon again next cycle. That might mean they get removed entirely or moved to a footnote for not being active.
Topic: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide [1st Feb 2016] - page 51. (Read 131512 times)
June 12, 2014, 05:14:23 PM
June 12, 2014, 04:36:45 PM
You mean , review based "reasons"?
June 12, 2014, 12:18:12 PM
Still blows my mind that Avalon has a B+ 
If Avalon is B+ then everyone else is A+. Avalon is the main reason all opensource miner projects went down the toilet. How can they be trusted, ever?
+1 Avalon is totally overrated but Dogie likes those rats. He has his ''reasons''...
June 12, 2014, 06:54:54 AM
Still blows my mind that Avalon has a B+
If Avalon is B+ then everyone else is A+. Avalon is the main reason all opensource miner projects went down the toilet. How can they be trusted, ever?
You sir are correct. Millions lost. Many a great designer ruined.
June 12, 2014, 06:30:34 AM
Best just give all the manufacturers except for Bitmaintech a Z rating Dogie and close the thread.
End your pain....
Bitmaintech isn't the only company that delivers from stock and they also had some problems.End your pain....
Ok give them a Z too. End the misery.
June 12, 2014, 06:22:56 AM
Still blows my mind that Avalon has a B+
If Avalon is B+ then everyone else is A+. Avalon is the main reason all opensource miner projects went down the toilet. How can they be trusted, ever?
June 12, 2014, 04:09:52 AM
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nothing wrong with comparing mining calculators, if 2 calculators have the same input they should provide same output, if not, one of them is wrong.
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They will all be wrong since it is a future guestimate.nothing wrong with comparing mining calculators, if 2 calculators have the same input they should provide same output, if not, one of them is wrong.
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Diff:
Code:
268127 05/11/2013 390,928,787.638 46.02%
270143 17/11/2013 510,929,738.016 30.70%
272159 29/11/2013 609,482,679.888 19.29%
274175 10/12/2013 707,408,283.051 16.07%
276191 21/12/2013 908,350,862.437 28.41%
278207 02/01/2014 1,180,923,195.258 30.01%
280223 13/01/2014 1,418,481,395.262 20.12%
282239 24/01/2014 1,789,546,951.053 26.16%
284255 05/02/2014 2,193,847,870.174 22.59%
286271 17/02/2014 2,621,404,453.064 19.49%
288287 28/02/2014 3,129,573,174.522 19.39%
290303 13/03/2014 3,815,723,798.814 21.92%
292319 24/03/2014 4,250,217,919.869 11.39%
294335 05/04/2014 5,006,860,589.205 17.80%
296351 17/04/2014 6,119,726,089.128 22.23%
298367 29/04/2014 6,978,842,649.592 14.04%
300383 12/05/2014 8,000,872,135.968 14.64%
302399 24/05/2014 8,853,416,309.127 10.66%
304415 05/06/2014 10,455,720,138.484 18.10%
305136 10/06/2014 11,756,551,916.904 12.44%
June 12, 2014, 01:30:00 AM
Best just give all the manufacturers except for Bitmaintech a Z rating Dogie and close the thread.
End your pain....
Bitmaintech isn't the only company that delivers from stock and they also had some problems.End your pain....
June 12, 2014, 12:41:52 AM
Best just give all the manufacturers except for Bitmaintech a Z rating Dogie and close the thread.
End your pain....
End your pain....
June 12, 2014, 12:37:48 AM
I have to disagree in regards to KNC...
At any time refunds could stop...
They are late, since on Batch 2 was promised a delivery on Q1/Q2 and a month later than batch 0 and 1, that makes the deadline for Batch 0 and 1 the end of May, and plan B is not taking effect.
At any time refunds could stop...
They are late, since on Batch 2 was promised a delivery on Q1/Q2 and a month later than batch 0 and 1, that makes the deadline for Batch 0 and 1 the end of May, and plan B is not taking effect.
But the refunds haven't stopped. I can't penalise a company for something that hasn't happened yet in the future.
B1 was still Q1/Q2, so as of yet they're still not late. Remember for their size, a B rating is pretty terrible.
Yes they are late. they promised for B2 Q1/Q2, and it was promised that B2 would be delivered one month after B0/B1 so if you do the math they are late, for B0/1, or in other words B0/1 would be delivered one month before B2, if B2 is Q1/Q2, then B0/1 is Q1/Q2 -1 month, they are late according their own terms.
The last month for Q2 is June, minus a month for B0/1 and you have May, we are on June they are a month late.
Remember customers for B1 payed $13000 for a Neptune, it was for being delivered a month earlier than B2 which was $10000.
B1 was not Q1/Q2, it was Q1/Q2 - 1, B2 was Q1/Q2.
And as far as refund not having stopped, we do not know that, for practical purposes they have almost stopped since EU law allows only for 30 days delays, they are taking over 2 months on some cases, and when asked they reply "shortly", "soon", "sometime this week" which is misleading, as far as information of the refunds queue, there is absolutely no transparency, they will not provide that information, the only info we have is what we see on this forum, on redit, and on the kncforum to some degree since they are deleting posts in regards refunds. What we do know is that the productions of Neptunes was limited and only Batches 0,1,2 are allowed refunds, customers on Batch 3 got burned on only on no refunds but only a 3 month warranty instead of the year, so there should not be a reason for such large delays, delays which exceed the legal limit, from a legal point of view it is like if refunds had stopped. I hope you are right and refunds do not stop, but the lack of transparency is painful.
A B is normally considered good, KNC is definitely not good.
June 12, 2014, 12:01:56 AM
Still blows my mind that Avalon has a B+
June 11, 2014, 11:33:01 PM
would it be possible to contact skype, to prove the conversation happened from the website?
June 11, 2014, 10:35:59 PM
BLACK ARROW should get a S.F. for super fast. because this rating thing is B.S.... wouldnt matter if u had a rceipt or tx id. who cares you just get whatever this guy picks feels like. as long as he gets his its A+. there is only anincentive to demote good companies and elevate those that pay out. please prove me wrong.
(You're on, and will stay on, my ignore list). You purchased from a scammer, then flame me because I won't reduce the rating of the legitimate company you thought you were buying from.you didnt want to act like a man and even look at the tx id i provided, then when i put it in your face you said it was a scammer.. anything so you wouldnt have to break your obligations, its not a trustworthiness guide if you cant be contacted with tx id's.. and respond .... so this is a guide where tx id dont matter,, not much of a guide ...this guy cant addmit when he is wrong not much of a man to trust
Of course I did, and I even SHOWED YOU proof that you sent it to the scammer. Get over it, call your local law enforcement, the FBI or something. I'm not the person to make your booboo go away.
THE WHOLE POINT IS THAT IT WAS DONE ON THEIR WEBSITE... the scammer works there.... and no we have never talked about any sort of "proof" you just made that up, trust worthiness guide -F.... the only thing that matters is that the transaction originated from the website, contact made from the website, nothing was typed in or searched for, duh you would have to go to the website to look at the skype name to search for the skype name that you would need to talk to,... we already know someone gave out a bs wallet-- it happened from an employee and it was not dealt with, jack saw that it happened from an employee( so he changed the icons to prevent me from proving it further)... you say scammer like that means it wasnt from the website- you then decide what happend as well and lied about it on your own thread, just address the issue on how contact was made- through the website?
June 11, 2014, 01:16:07 PM
If you don't like how Dogie does his ratings... maybe we need more people doing the same thing here?
Just a thought. It seems like a lot of people think Dogie has some sort of motivation to twist the ratings. He, unlike most, is sticking to a methodology for the ratings. Maybe you need to do your own system and post it and compete with him. I am pretty sure there are better metrics available but who has the time and the focus of Dogie? If it were easy everyone would have a rating scale and posting.
How about giving him some suggestions and or evidence and leave out the personal witch hunt so he can rework the parameters for a better system?
What is the methodology used in the ratings, I didn't see any description in the post.Just a thought. It seems like a lot of people think Dogie has some sort of motivation to twist the ratings. He, unlike most, is sticking to a methodology for the ratings. Maybe you need to do your own system and post it and compete with him. I am pretty sure there are better metrics available but who has the time and the focus of Dogie? If it were easy everyone would have a rating scale and posting.
How about giving him some suggestions and or evidence and leave out the personal witch hunt so he can rework the parameters for a better system?
The short version:
New company, starts at ~C+. Promotion criteria set out to advance. Repeated, within the bounds of sensibility and the tier ratings in the OP. Now must conform to no preorders for A [ignore Lightning ASIC for now].
May move to a numerical system in the future like the PSU guide, although it takes a LOT more time (5-10x) and goes out of date much quicker.
June 11, 2014, 12:32:27 PM
If you don't like how Dogie does his ratings... maybe we need more people doing the same thing here?
Just a thought. It seems like a lot of people think Dogie has some sort of motivation to twist the ratings. He, unlike most, is sticking to a methodology for the ratings. Maybe you need to do your own system and post it and compete with him. I am pretty sure there are better metrics available but who has the time and the focus of Dogie? If it were easy everyone would have a rating scale and posting.
How about giving him some suggestions and or evidence and leave out the personal witch hunt so he can rework the parameters for a better system?
What is the methodology used in the ratings, I didn't see any description in the post. Just a thought. It seems like a lot of people think Dogie has some sort of motivation to twist the ratings. He, unlike most, is sticking to a methodology for the ratings. Maybe you need to do your own system and post it and compete with him. I am pretty sure there are better metrics available but who has the time and the focus of Dogie? If it were easy everyone would have a rating scale and posting.
How about giving him some suggestions and or evidence and leave out the personal witch hunt so he can rework the parameters for a better system?
June 11, 2014, 12:26:24 PM
What about GAW miners? I get the impression that this company is one of the more reputable on the bitcoin market. There is nothing about them in the guide.
Not sure if you noticed, but these are all Bitcoin miners, and this is a Bitcoin only hardware thread.
Emo, goth, alternative stuff go here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=67.0
June 11, 2014, 11:56:57 AM
What about GAW miners? I get the impression that this company is one of the more reputable on the bitcoin market. There is nothing about them in the guide.
Not sure if you noticed, but these are all Bitcoin miners, and this is a Bitcoin only hardware thread.
Emo, goth, alternative stuff go here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=67.0
June 11, 2014, 11:35:29 AM
What about GAW miners? I get the impression that this company is one of the more reputable on the bitcoin market. There is nothing about them in the guide.
June 11, 2014, 10:36:43 AM
Well as a friendly reminder i would like to remind dogie LA is now doing PRE-ORDER and promised to deliver ia 100Mhs scrypt miner in 5 months and they have not yet taped out.
we can ship out miner 1-2 weeks after chipset arrived.
They always say "we shipped many million dollars of miners" for credibility. I think it's in dogie's best interest to prevent them saying "we can deliver in 5 months even with the fact that we have not yet taped out because we are backed by dogie's A rating"
My 2c
Ok, I'll take the bait. Have you taped out and sent the details for manufacturing ?
tape out will be in 4-6 weeks. and get wafer more 4-6 weeks.we can ship out miner 1-2 weeks after chipset arrived.
They always say "we shipped many million dollars of miners" for credibility. I think it's in dogie's best interest to prevent them saying "we can deliver in 5 months even with the fact that we have not yet taped out because we are backed by dogie's A rating"
My 2c
Whats the product code on this preordered product (which would jeopardise their A rating), and are you suggesting they're making their own chips, or waiting on someone else to make the chips?
It's in their thread they're opening preorder for 100Mhs scrypt asic with their own chip.
June 11, 2014, 09:48:57 AM
I have to disagree in regards to KNC...
At any time refunds could stop...
They are late, since on Batch 2 was promised a delivery on Q1/Q2 and a month later than batch 0 and 1, that makes the deadline for Batch 0 and 1 the end of May, and plan B is not taking effect.
At any time refunds could stop...
They are late, since on Batch 2 was promised a delivery on Q1/Q2 and a month later than batch 0 and 1, that makes the deadline for Batch 0 and 1 the end of May, and plan B is not taking effect.
But the refunds haven't stopped. I can't penalise a company for something that hasn't happened yet in the future.
B1 was still Q1/Q2, so as of yet they're still not late. Remember for their size, a B rating is pretty terrible.
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