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December 21, 2012, 12:54:18 AM
But let's not let honest discussion about the gun problem and the 12,000 deaths a year get in the way of you supporting your own fetish desires to shoot watermelons and fantasize about the muggers in the shadows.

Gun ownership is a right.

Meaningless. You can't prove it. It's simply five words strung together.

I can tell, that in truth, the deaths of 12,000 people a year does not really bother you. More important to you is a tenuous concept that makes you feel better, mostly because of the political intellectual games you like to play. Your own selfish desire to engage in your own self aggrandizing pontification of an ill thought out political ideology trumps any real concern you have for the deaths of people.

If you actually cared about people and their lives, you would look harder at the numbers, both deeper and broader. It's apparent, that no matter what numbers or philosophies that are presented to you, would not matter. You're the worst of the worst, both in argumentative style, and in obtuseness, putting your unhealthy beliefs and fears above the health of society.
legendary
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RIP Mommy
December 21, 2012, 12:53:03 AM
It is self-evident that guns make it easier to perform mass killing.  Guns are tools designed to kill, possibly at a distance.  Far more effective than a knife, by design.

It is also self-evident that history has shown time and again that disarming all citizens makes oppression and slavery much easier.

Pick your poison...



If you have a decent virtual reality simulator, go into a crowd with a knife and start killing people. See how much longer you're able to kill silently than if you have a gun and open fire and everyone who isn't deaf or dumb starts running, either as far away as possible, or just far enough away that their position is good enough to return fire from. Some will take a concealed position, some will go for hard cover, a few will just draw where they stand, and fewer still will rush you either unarmed or wearing badges and body armor after minutes have passed since the 911 call was received and tons are dead because nobody could defend themselves.
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December 21, 2012, 12:51:15 AM
We arent even allowed to own tasers here let alone guns.
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December 21, 2012, 12:46:18 AM
But let's not let honest discussion about the gun problem and the 12,000 deaths a year get in the way of you supporting your own fetish desires to shoot watermelons and fantasize about the muggers in the shadows.

Gun ownership is a right. Self defense is a right. When you infringe upon that right, people die. That's the gun problem.

It has nothing to do with your imaginings about me.

I completely agree. Gun ownership is a right. A person wanting to wrongfully kill another is usually not going to respect any notion of "gun free zones" or gun laws, anyways. And guns save many lives every year in not just self defense, but avoiding the danger in the first place.

I'm pretty sure that any thief will chime in that an NRA sticker on someone's house is much more worrying for them than any security system. The same goes anywhere else. People generally leave the gun owners alone, and go for the unarmed. You always go for the weakest link, which is never a gun owner. Having more people able to armed (and learn how to properly use a firearm) seems like the best solution in my mind. It won't stop everything bad from happening, but I think it can make things better.
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FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
December 21, 2012, 12:37:27 AM
But let's not let honest discussion about the gun problem and the 12,000 deaths a year get in the way of you supporting your own fetish desires to shoot watermelons and fantasize about the muggers in the shadows.

Gun ownership is a right. Self defense is a right. When you infringe upon that right, people die. That's the gun problem.

It has nothing to do with your imaginings about me.
legendary
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December 21, 2012, 12:33:41 AM
It is self-evident that guns make it easier to perform mass killing.  Guns are tools designed to kill, possibly at a distance.  Far more effective than a knife, by design.

It is also self-evident that history has shown time and again that disarming all citizens makes oppression and slavery much easier.

Pick your poison...

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December 21, 2012, 12:33:30 AM
I think they should do a study on how many mass shootings happen in gun control areas as opposed to places where people can freely carry guns around. For example I dont know of any mass shootings in New Hampshire.

You mean like in Japan where gun control is effectively enforced uniformly?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuyama_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara_massacre

Works great.

Yes, it does. Have you looked at the numbers?

Indeed I have:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuyama_massacre
30 dead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre
8 children dead, 13 children and 2 teachers wounded.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara_massacre
7 dead, 10 injured.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion/54618459-82/aurora-gun-shooting-church.html.csp
2 dead, including the shooter.

So discussing some deaths over the course of many years deludes you into thinking you've looked at the aggregate data? You're a stupid man (who sees scary men in every dark shadow, and hides with his like kind government haters to feel support for his views).

Dude, you're the one who told me to compare the numbers. How far back you gonna scoot those goalposts?

No dude, compare the numbers of homicides per 100,000. If this forum weren't overrun with your type, others would be calling you out for your biased stupidity and deceptive tactics (which does in fact happen, despite the niche crowd here).

But let's not let honest discussion about the gun problem and the 12,000 deaths a year get in the way of you supporting your own fetish desires to shoot watermelons and fantasize about the muggers in the shadows.
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FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
December 21, 2012, 12:28:20 AM
I think they should do a study on how many mass shootings happen in gun control areas as opposed to places where people can freely carry guns around. For example I dont know of any mass shootings in New Hampshire.

You mean like in Japan where gun control is effectively enforced uniformly?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuyama_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara_massacre

Works great.

Yes, it does. Have you looked at the numbers?

Indeed I have:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuyama_massacre
30 dead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre
8 children dead, 13 children and 2 teachers wounded.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara_massacre
7 dead, 10 injured.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion/54618459-82/aurora-gun-shooting-church.html.csp
2 dead, including the shooter.

So discussing some deaths over the course of many years deludes you into thinking you've looked at the aggregate data? You're a stupid man (who sees scary men in every dark shadow, and hides with his like kind government haters to feel support for his views).

Dude, you're the one who told me to compare the numbers. How far back you gonna scoot those goalposts?
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December 21, 2012, 12:25:53 AM
I think they should do a study on how many mass shootings happen in gun control areas as opposed to places where people can freely carry guns around. For example I dont know of any mass shootings in New Hampshire.

You mean like in Japan where gun control is effectively enforced uniformly?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuyama_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara_massacre

Works great.

Yes, it does. Have you looked at the numbers?

Indeed I have:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuyama_massacre
30 dead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre
8 children dead, 13 children and 2 teachers wounded.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara_massacre
7 dead, 10 injured.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion/54618459-82/aurora-gun-shooting-church.html.csp
2 dead, including the shooter.

So discussing some deaths over the course of many years deludes you into thinking you've looked at the aggregate data? You're a stupid man (who sees scary men in every dark shadow, and hides with his like kind government haters to feel support for his views).
hero member
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FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
December 21, 2012, 12:21:20 AM
I think they should do a study on how many mass shootings happen in gun control areas as opposed to places where people can freely carry guns around. For example I dont know of any mass shootings in New Hampshire.

You mean like in Japan where gun control is effectively enforced uniformly?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuyama_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara_massacre

Works great.

Yes, it does. Have you looked at the numbers?

Indeed I have:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuyama_massacre
30 dead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre
8 children dead, 13 children and 2 teachers wounded.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara_massacre
7 dead, 10 injured.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion/54618459-82/aurora-gun-shooting-church.html.csp
2 dead, including the shooter.
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December 21, 2012, 12:16:26 AM
I think they should do a study on how many mass shootings happen in gun control areas as opposed to places where people can freely carry guns around. For example I dont know of any mass shootings in New Hampshire.

You mean like in Japan where gun control is effectively enforced uniformly?

Guns are not necessary to carry out mass killing.

The Sandy Hook Elementary shooting wasn't the worst massacre at an elementary school in U.S. history. It was the second most deadly. In 1927, at a time before today's gun control laws, the school board treasurer Andrew Kehoe felt grieved over losing the 1926 town clerk election in Bath Township, Michigan. He spent the next year collecting and hiding dynamite and pyrotol in preparation for his perceived revenge.

On May 18, 1927, massive amounts of explosives detonated under the north wing of the Bath School, killing 38 children and six adults and injuring 58 others. Hundreds of pounds of explosives were found in the basement under the south wing as well, revealing Kehoe's plan to blow up the entire school and everybody in it. After the school explosion, Kehoe drove up and detonated himself inside his shrapnel-filled truck, killing and injuring additional people.


Carry on with this attitude for the rest of your life. It will never obscure the fact that effective gun control will have a massive effect on homicide rates.

Furthermore, the saddest thing ever is the fact that it is precisely your self fulfilling belief that your views are necessary for safety that leads exactly to the self sustaining problem in this country. Precisely because you carry on with this attitude and insistence for gun rights is the true cause of gun crime in America.
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December 21, 2012, 12:02:45 AM
I think they should do a study on how many mass shootings happen in gun control areas as opposed to places where people can freely carry guns around. For example I dont know of any mass shootings in New Hampshire.

You mean like in Japan where gun control is effectively enforced uniformly?

Guns are not necessary to carry out mass killing.

The Sandy Hook Elementary shooting wasn't the worst massacre at an elementary school in U.S. history. It was the second most deadly. In 1927, at a time before today's gun control laws, the school board treasurer Andrew Kehoe felt grieved over losing the 1926 town clerk election in Bath Township, Michigan. He spent the next year collecting and hiding dynamite and pyrotol in preparation for his perceived revenge.

On May 18, 1927, massive amounts of explosives detonated under the north wing of the Bath School, killing 38 children and six adults and injuring 58 others. Hundreds of pounds of explosives were found in the basement under the south wing as well, revealing Kehoe's plan to blow up the entire school and everybody in it. After the school explosion, Kehoe drove up and detonated himself inside his shrapnel-filled truck, killing and injuring additional people.


Carry on with this attitude for the rest of your life. It will never obscure the fact that effective gun control will have a massive effect on homicide rates.
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December 21, 2012, 12:01:26 AM
I think they should do a study on how many mass shootings happen in gun control areas as opposed to places where people can freely carry guns around. For example I dont know of any mass shootings in New Hampshire.

You mean like in Japan where gun control is effectively enforced uniformly?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuyama_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara_massacre

Works great.

Yes, it does. Have you looked at the numbers?
legendary
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December 20, 2012, 11:58:23 PM
I think they should do a study on how many mass shootings happen in gun control areas as opposed to places where people can freely carry guns around. For example I dont know of any mass shootings in New Hampshire.

You mean like in Japan where gun control is effectively enforced uniformly?

Guns are not necessary to carry out mass killing.

The Sandy Hook Elementary shooting wasn't the worst massacre at an elementary school in U.S. history. It was the second most deadly. In 1927, at a time before today's gun control laws, the school board treasurer Andrew Kehoe felt grieved over losing the 1926 town clerk election in Bath Township, Michigan. He spent the next year collecting and hiding dynamite and pyrotol in preparation for his perceived revenge.

On May 18, 1927, massive amounts of explosives detonated under the north wing of the Bath School, killing 38 children and six adults and injuring 58 others. Hundreds of pounds of explosives were found in the basement under the south wing as well, revealing Kehoe's plan to blow up the entire school and everybody in it. After the school explosion, Kehoe drove up and detonated himself inside his shrapnel-filled truck, killing and injuring additional people.
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December 20, 2012, 11:52:44 PM
I think they should do a study on how many mass shootings happen in gun control areas as opposed to places where people can freely carry guns around. For example I dont know of any mass shootings in New Hampshire.

You mean like in Japan where gun control is effectively enforced uniformly?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuyama_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara_massacre

Works great.
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December 20, 2012, 11:46:36 PM
I think they should do a study on how many mass shootings happen in gun control areas as opposed to places where people can freely carry guns around. For example I dont know of any mass shootings in New Hampshire.

You mean like in Japan where gun control is effectively enforced uniformly?
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FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
December 20, 2012, 10:53:53 PM
I think they should do a study on how many mass shootings happen in gun control areas as opposed to places where people can freely carry guns around. For example I dont know of any mass shootings in New Hampshire.

Aurora, CO allows open carry. Cinemark prohibits firearms in their theaters. Consequently:
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion/54618459-82/aurora-gun-shooting-church.html.csp
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-shooting/index.html

Doesn't get clearer than that, folks.
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December 20, 2012, 10:48:05 PM
For example I dont know of any mass shootings in New Hampshire.

dont you need a mass for mass shootings?  Wink
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December 20, 2012, 10:40:07 PM
I think they should do a study on how many mass shootings happen in gun control areas as opposed to places where people can freely carry guns around. For example I dont know of any mass shootings in New Hampshire.
legendary
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RIP Mommy
December 20, 2012, 10:33:22 PM
If you have a gun free zone the police shouldnt have guns either.

If you read the CT's law (not that I expect you), it isn't a gun free zone. Anyone with a proper license and the approval of the school could have a weapon on the school's ground.

Wow.... It's amazing.


Connecticut denies those licenses on a nearly 100% basis, and if they didn't, schools would deny approval on a nearly 100% basis (allowing only active and possibly honorably-retired cops) and claim sane, law-abiding adults background checked, psychologically evaluated, and trained up the wazoo, are too much of a liability. This is the case wherever gun control reigns supreme. If you support "gun control", it's time to stop rejecting reality and substituting your own.
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