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Also, I found an interesting study:
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.1086/340507?uid=3739256&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21101467503853
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.1086/340507?uid=3739256&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21101467503853
Hey, which takes less time to learn?
A martial art, such as Karate, or how to hit a man-sized target at less than 10 feet?
A martial art, such as Karate, or how to hit a man-sized target at less than 10 feet?
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Guy walks in and starts beating kid. All the other kids run out door. Teacher screams, calls 911. Other teachers come in and wrestle offender off of kid.
If you seriously think that unarmed teachers are going to be able to do anything when people decide to get violent in a school you definitely haven't been to my previous schools, I hope all the other gun control advocates are as stupid as you are because once the initial shock of the Connecticut wears off people are all going to think you're morons.
If you wish to move beyond speculation and proceed to hard numbers, feel free to do so.
But I bet they sure wished somebody besides the crazy fucker were armed.
I bet they wished that crazy fucker wasn't armed at all.
I'm sure being beaten to death is much preferable to being shot.
If you can't think through your hypothetical scenario to the end, then you're an idiot.
Go ahead and walk through it for me. You already think I'm sub-moronic, so I don't think this will much change your attitude.
Guy walks in and starts beating kid. All the other kids run out door. Teacher screams, calls 911. Other teachers come in and wrestle offender off of kid.
Duh!
Guy walks in and shoots a kid. All the other kids run out the door. Teacher shoots the offender.
Duh!
The reality is that attackers like this will get weapons. Whether they use baseball bats, knives, or farm implements (fun fact: almost all melee weapons are modified farm implements), they will have something to put them at an advantage to an unarmed defender. Your little fantasy of teachers swarming the guy to take him down doesn't even hold much water even if everyone (attacker included) is unarmed. Academics are not known for their fighting ability.
I'm not sure the offenders in these scenarios were known for their fighting abilities either. Nor would I be so naive as to convince myself that teachers cannot be brave. Even if everything played out the way you describe it above, I'd take any and all scenarios above over assault rifle armed offenders. Are you too blindsided by your sick desires for a anything goes society to see that? It's obvious you are.
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Guy walks in and starts beating kid. All the other kids run out door. Teacher screams, calls 911. Other teachers come in and wrestle offender off of kid.
If you seriously think that unarmed teachers are going to be able to do anything when people decide to get violent in a school you definitely haven't been to my previous schools, I hope all the other gun control advocates are as stupid as you are because once the initial shock of the Connecticut wears off people are all going to think you're morons.
Teacher shoots the offender.
Academics are not known for their fighting ability.
Academics are not known for their fighting ability.
School teachers also are not known for they shooting skills.
But I bet they sure wished somebody besides the crazy fucker were armed.
I bet they wished that crazy fucker wasn't armed at all.
I'm sure being beaten to death is much preferable to being shot.
If you can't think through your hypothetical scenario to the end, then you're an idiot.
Go ahead and walk through it for me. You already think I'm sub-moronic, so I don't think this will much change your attitude.
Guy walks in and starts beating kid. All the other kids run out door. Teacher screams, calls 911. Other teachers come in and wrestle offender off of kid.
Duh!
Guy walks in and shoots a kid. All the other kids run out the door. Teacher shoots the offender.
Duh!
The reality is that attackers like this will get weapons. Whether they use baseball bats, knives, or farm implements (fun fact: almost all melee weapons are modified farm implements), they will have something to put them at an advantage to an unarmed defender. Your little fantasy of teachers swarming the guy to take him down doesn't even hold much water even if everyone (attacker included) is unarmed. Academics are not known for their fighting ability.
But I bet they sure wished somebody besides the crazy fucker were armed.
I bet they wished that crazy fucker wasn't armed at all.
I'm sure being beaten to death is much preferable to being shot.
If you can't think through your hypothetical scenario to the end, then you're an idiot.
Go ahead and walk through it for me. You already think I'm sub-moronic, so I don't think this will much change your attitude.
Guy walks in and starts beating kid. All the other kids run out door. Teacher screams, calls 911. Other teachers come in and wrestle offender off of kid.
Duh!
But I bet they sure wished somebody besides the crazy fucker were armed.
I bet they wished that crazy fucker wasn't armed at all.
I'm sure being beaten to death is much preferable to being shot.
If you can't think through your hypothetical scenario to the end, then you're an idiot.
Go ahead and walk through it for me. You already think I'm sub-moronic, so I don't think this will much change your attitude.
But I bet they sure wished somebody besides the crazy fucker were armed.
I bet they wished that crazy fucker wasn't armed at all.
I'm sure being beaten to death is much preferable to being shot.
If you can't think through your hypothetical scenario to the end, then you're an idiot.
But I bet they sure wished somebody besides the crazy fucker were armed.
I bet they wished that crazy fucker wasn't armed at all.
I'm sure being beaten to death is much preferable to being shot.
But I bet they sure wished somebody besides the crazy fucker were armed.
I bet they wished that crazy fucker wasn't armed at all.
And I'm sure the dead victims would have liked to been able to defend their lives, as well.
Yeah, as I told... In the moment you think that dead children would like to defend themselves with lethal weapons which they were not taught to use, you are certainly fucked up.
The moment you think I would give five year old kids guns - especially without training them - you are certainly fucked up.
But I bet they sure wished somebody besides the crazy fucker were armed.
"Why isn't anyone shooting back?"
"Because they can't. The school's a gun-free zone."
Of course, teenagers are another matter...
Just going sane in an insane world.
Yeah, as I told... In the moment you think you are sane person in a world of insane people, you are certainly fucked up.
And I'm sure the dead victims would have liked to been able to defend their lives, as well.
Yeah, as I told... In the moment you think that dead children would like to defend themselves with lethal weapons which they were not taught to use, you are certainly fucked up.
Myrkul, seriously, I am sure you are a person with good intentions in everything you try to do. Get out of this forum for a while. Enjoy a whole week with your children, they need you more than this forum needs you.
Myrkul, you are really fucked up.
Just going sane in an insane world.
And I'm sure the dead victims would have liked to been able to defend their lives, as well.
But banning all guns because a few crazy people used some to kill a few dozen people, that just makes perfect sense, doesn't it?
Wow...
The opinion of a survivor of one of these mass shootings should carry some weight, yeah?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEJFAvA-ZUE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEJFAvA-ZUE
actually quite the opposite.
how can the most biased opinion possible further a rational discussion?
Really? The opinion of some who has been the victim of one of these shootings doesn't carry any weight, and, in your opinion should be ignored because it's biased? Are you fucking crazy?
In other words, you think the opinion of one victim should weight in favor of ANTI government gun control, but the death of several victims should not weight in favor of PRO government gun control.
Myrkul, you are really fucked up.
Damn, that school should have had those signs.
We watched this when I did my CCW class, today I went up to our local dealer to buy some ammo and realized he was actually completely sold out on all AR 15's and other assault rifles.
Nothing like a threat to make something illegal to drive sales.
Damn, that school should have had those signs.
We watched this when I did my CCW class, today I went up to our local dealer to buy some ammo and realized he was actually completely sold out on all AR 15's and other assault rifles.
And don't forget, besides the obvious and egregious examples of the Nazis and Soviets, the relatively open and free governments of the West have quite an astoundingly large amount of blood on their hands.
Hell, drone strikes kill more kids than these nutjobs could ever manage.
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